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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 01:05 PM
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I will . Just shopping still

I used to love the e63 w212 wagon. But once the face lift happens the pre face lift wagons looks horrendously dated so I don't want that

I have considered a few 2014+ e63 wagon. Price is about 75-85k for lower mileage ones.

Ao so I am looking at about a 15k delta in real world prices
Ummmmm......you mentioned an E63 AMG Wagon. Conversation is over. Now go find one.
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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 01:45 PM
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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
Ummmmm......you mentioned an E63 AMG Wagon. Conversation is over. Now go find one.
I will keep the car 5 years. I will drive it 100k miles. Thus the E wagons I looked at have been 20K miles or under, and its still about 15K over budget. As I said, I am shopping still, and hoping to take advantage of X mas/New Years deals and close it up.
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Old Sep 22, 2017 | 07:30 AM
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i would get the pano just because it makes the roof look black, provides a good contrast with rest of the car.

Other than that, i have not opened my sunroof in the past 5 years. But i know some ppl use their sunroof everyday.
I have a huge pano roof on my 530xi and given the choice of what I know now, I would never order a car with it, it was standard equipment however. The internal roof drains got plugged up and did $3000 in damage in parts alone to the electronics. This was a problem BMW got sued for and I got a notice for based on VIN registration. It turns out I had just spent that $3K and am awaiting word on whether I'm getting some/all of that back.


Cardinal red: there's only one brand German car that gets away with being red and that's Porsche. The Germans generally don't do reds very well at all, esp. Audi/BMW/MBZ IMO
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Old Sep 22, 2017 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan


Cardinal red: there's only one brand German car that gets away with being red and that's Porsche. The Germans generally don't do reds very well at all, esp. Audi/BMW/MBZ IMO
I love a guards red 911 or a Milano red BMW. Since I can't get those beautiful red on the MB wagon, I will settle for cardinal red
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Old Sep 22, 2017 | 01:05 PM
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I have a huge pano roof on my 530xi and given the choice of what I know now, I would never order a car with it, it was standard equipment however. The internal roof drains got plugged up and did $3000 in damage in parts alone to the electronics. This was a problem BMW got sued for and I got a notice for based on VIN registration. It turns out I had just spent that $3K and am awaiting word on whether I'm getting some/all of that back.


Cardinal red: there's only one brand German car that gets away with being red and that's Porsche. The Germans generally don't do reds very well at all, esp. Audi/BMW/MBZ IMO
I am sure you will get your $$ back... did you tell them what you do for a living?

But yah...i cant remember the last time i saw a red Audi... So you are saying we BMW drivers do not like show off? we are humble like that?
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Old Sep 22, 2017 | 03:07 PM
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No, I'm saying the reds produced by BMW, et. al are flat reds that don't belong on sedans or again, especially on wagons because a hot wagon is the ultimate sleeper car, why get arrest-me-red??

And yes, my notice of claim in the Federal Court action went on my office letterhead, so they know who's who in the pew.
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Old Sep 22, 2017 | 08:32 PM
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E400 is slow. Cardinal red or black won't matter as no one, much less cops notice it. Only thing sleeper about a E400 is failure of contraceptive usage on the owners part during sleep time which necessitates the car purchase in the first place.

@oonowindoo - I see plenty of A3 red sedans daily, red base q5, red S4 sedans they are all over the place. C300/cla in blood red used to be rare but like estoril blue 3 series, red c/cla are all over

of course if you go to century city BMW, you can buy lime green 7series and purple and yellow 3series wagons all day long for $75,000
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Old Sep 25, 2017 | 04:15 PM
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I only see white ones haha.
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Old Sep 25, 2017 | 07:22 PM
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I know white is right, but I decided to shop some colored wagons today
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Old Sep 25, 2017 | 08:02 PM
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I need that purple on a RS6 Avant
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Old Sep 25, 2017 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32
I need that purple on a RS6 Avant
The outdoor purple was nice. The inside one was nice too.. Just that 72-75K for a 3 series wagon is a bit much for my liking, when I get a larger E class wagon for 10K less, albeit in grandpa colors.


Though if I get a BMW wagon, I would want it in the lime green or bright orange like this...
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 01:30 PM
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Anyone know when the $70K XF will be available for purchase? AWD and 380HP.

They are offering it in red outside and red inside. Firenze red exterior with Pimento interior. Will be gorgeous.
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 02:33 PM
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The jag is nice for sure
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
The jag is nice for sure
to me I just can't seem to get over the ugly rear of the E400

dealer says they will cut a better deal than previously offered

might have to just wait for jag. I can get red on red with standard pano roof

3 series is too small. Even with the cool colors and great discounts, I want something larger
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 03:39 PM
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^ Saw a black E400 4Matic on my drive in to the office this morning, it does have a bit of a bland rear end, but I wouldn't call it boring.
That Jag is though.
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 03:43 PM
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To each his own

i love the e400
right power
right space
right price

rear looks like Down syndrome in person

if I did don't have any options I would pull trigger

two new options at same price has my eyes wandering
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 04:01 PM
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I am pretty sure the Jag should go on sale sometime this year and I would imagine that would be sometime in October or November. Doesn't really make sense to release a new car in December but I am sure it has happened.
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012wagon
I know white is right, but I decided to shop some colored wagons today
That purple one > all... Always like that color since E36 days.
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012wagon
The outdoor purple was nice. The inside one was nice too.. Just that 72-75K for a 3 series wagon is a bit much for my liking, when I get a larger E class wagon for 10K less, albeit in grandpa colors.


Though if I get a BMW wagon, I would want it in the lime green or bright orange like this...

For $5000 you can get it in any color you want.... the question is do you want to pay
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
That purple one > all... Always like that color since E36 days.
Yup

even though it's a $74,000 lowly 3 series wagon

that said it's a bit too small
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
For $5000 you can get it in any color you want.... the question is do you want to pay
for $5,000 can I redesign the rear of the e400?
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
I am pretty sure the Jag should go on sale sometime this year and I would imagine that would be sometime in October or November. Doesn't really make sense to release a new car in December but I am sure it has happened.
I sent an email to Galpin
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A little bland, but I don't mind it


Aside from the exhaust, the AMG is about the same


The 2014 body style did have more character
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 04:54 PM
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2014 rear end with 2017 front end would be perfect

eh well I got few months. Want to be in new wagon by Jan 1
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 04:54 PM
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for $5,000 can I redesign the rear of the e400?
Call 1 800 West Coast Custom
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012wagon
Yup

even though it's a $74,000 lowly 3 series wagon

that said it's a bit too small

Is that in Canadian dollar?
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 04:58 PM
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Is that in Canadian dollar?
all wagons I posted for the 3 series at local dealer is $72,000-76,000 US$
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 05:36 PM
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WTF.. you can get a m3/4 for that much $$.

How did you manage to get 30k in options on a $45k car?
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
WTF.. you can get a m3/4 for that much $$.

How did you manage to get 30k in options on a $45k car?
this dealer is famous for $75k 3 series wagons
surprised you haven't heard about them as you are big into bmws

here is an article about them a while back:
https://jalopnik.com/which-one-of-yo...0-b-1792523474



there GM is a riot. Orders all kinds of crazy stuff. I mean bright yellow 7 series and lime green ones along with 75k 3 series wagons
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 05:50 PM
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Oh Century West, I have heard horrible stories from their service department.

So that 3 series wagon not only has the normal options, it also has every M performance parts and the $5000 paint job....
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 06:13 PM
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Oh Century West, I have heard horrible stories from their service department.

So that 3 series wagon not only has the normal options, it also has every M performance parts and the $5000 paint job....
at all times they have 4-5 $74,000 3 series wagons
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 06:20 AM
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If only the 3 series wagon came with a good engine : sad:
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 09:26 AM
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 11:48 AM
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as close as I could get

First time wagon thread poster, long time lurker...

With 2 growing kids and an aging 2006 Acura TL (6-speed) I have been looking to join the wagon ranks for some time. The BMWs, Audis, and Mercedes are out of my budget so I did the best I could. Monday I ordered a 2018 Buick TourX. Unfortunately Buick had to put the plastic cladding on it but its not as butched up as an Outback so I will still call it a wagon. Went with sport red and a black leather interior. No production or delivery date yet but the guess was 45+ days.

Looking forward to finally being a wagon owner!
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 11:50 AM
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Said congrats on your thread, WI_BADGER, but saying it again. My first wagon was a 1980 Subaru DL, 4wd, MT. Loved it. Have had wagons since, Subarus, Hondas, Toyotas etc. My TSx wagon is my first AT wagon , but I loved it nonetheless. I am currently shopping for a replacement.

Also glad you went with the gorgeous red, that looks beautiful. My TSX Wagon, is the first wagon I owned in a truly ugly color, and after living with this ugliness for years, won't make that mistake again on the color.
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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Maybe look into PTM the arches? The TourX is a nice looking wagon for sure.
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 12:03 PM
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In a perfect world I can remove the plastic, get the front and rear clip from Europe along with the springs from the Opel sports tourer (rather than the country tourer) and turn it into a sports wagon rather than the country tourer. I have no idea how the cladding is attached. I assume they had to paint the body panels without the cladding and then attach it so I need to look into that first. I know a GM parts manager so he will be able to help me source the parts and figure out costs.

It is never good when the mods begin before the car is even built.
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^ Perfect world, that'd be easier. Curious how much prep it'd take to just paint the existing arches?
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 01:47 PM
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^ Perfect world, that'd be easier. Curious how much prep it'd take to just paint the existing arches?
I had a shop do it in 2003, on my then new Mini Cooper S. It came with black arches, and side skirts. Shop smoothed it all out, added some plastic adhesive and made it beautiful body color.
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