The Official Wagon/Avant Discussion Thread
The one I am looking at, has the Premium 1 package, and panoramic moonroof. Also the 18 inch AMG split 5 spoke wheels

Base price is 63K. With options 68xxx.
EDIT: Its not close to being fully loaded. If you fully loaded up, you can easily get to $82K or so, which is not something I am looking to spend for a daily grinder.
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^ as most of the so called 7 passenger cars.
Unless we are talking about Mini-van. Most of the 6 and 7 seats are good to have in case of emergency. They are all slightly better than useless.
Unless we are talking about Mini-van. Most of the 6 and 7 seats are good to have in case of emergency. They are all slightly better than useless.

I like it. Old-skoo wagons had that, I recall.
well the reason I drive a wagon and looking for wagon replacement are my kids

if it was adults only I would DD my two seaters

benz dealer came back $3450 off msrp take it or leave it
I think you can do much better if you wait for a bit ... i believe the car is still too new to have the "normal" mbz discounts like 8-10k off msrp.
Also most dealer stock seem to have all ordered with pano anyways. Unless I can find time to order/do Euro delivery, I will have to take from dealer stock to get most discount, so I will likely be "stuck" with pano
I like it when it's not the typical Houston 100*/100% humid, but the F150s have been plagued with rattle/creak/noise from the pano roofs. Mine's intermittent & I'm hesitant to take it in just to have the noise come back. Have seen a few fixes online that I may look into DIY over taking it in to be torn apart.
Shouldn't be a problem in the MB, no issues in my grandmother's S550.
Shouldn't be a problem in the MB, no issues in my grandmother's S550.
I know lexus has been doing pano on the ES for over 10 years
my mom has one no issues
then again at her age hardly doubt it's ever been used
your s550 anecdote definitely is helpful. At the mileage I drive my DD I expect to keep it 5-6 years and don't expect pano issues; now that I said it I bet I get a lemon
my mom has one no issues
then again at her age hardly doubt it's ever been used
your s550 anecdote definitely is helpful. At the mileage I drive my DD I expect to keep it 5-6 years and don't expect pano issues; now that I said it I bet I get a lemon
i would get the pano just because it makes the roof look black, provides a good contrast with rest of the car.
Other than that, i have not opened my sunroof in the past 5 years. But i know some ppl use their sunroof everyday.
Other than that, i have not opened my sunroof in the past 5 years. But i know some ppl use their sunroof everyday.
I personally don't ever open the sunroof
back in the day I had a 1995 mr2 turbo t top
the greatest joys of driving, aside from the chassis, was looking up at night and seeing the beautiful sky through the glass
so having sunrooof and pano etc, for me it's the glass , the airiness of the cabin, which I love. Since it can be shared with passengers is an added bonus
back in the day I had a 1995 mr2 turbo t top
the greatest joys of driving, aside from the chassis, was looking up at night and seeing the beautiful sky through the glass
so having sunrooof and pano etc, for me it's the glass , the airiness of the cabin, which I love. Since it can be shared with passengers is an added bonus
3 years ago we did a road trip that encompassed exactly that. La to red wood forest in November, when all the tourists went home
glass roof you can hear the see the rain drops (friends SL)
we would stop and hike in the forest
the low clouds coming off ocean and hanging up in the forest , thus as you hike in moist air of the November rain forest , as if you are waking on clouds
simply spectacular
glass roof you can hear the see the rain drops (friends SL)
we would stop and hike in the forest
the low clouds coming off ocean and hanging up in the forest , thus as you hike in moist air of the November rain forest , as if you are waking on clouds
simply spectacular
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I agree that the pano gives a nice contrast on a lighter colored car. Iridium Silver with pano roof
Cardinal Red should look great too.
I'd expect a higher degree of quality from even a C-class MB over the pano in my Ford.
Cardinal Red should look great too.I'd expect a higher degree of quality from even a C-class MB over the pano in my Ford.
already got rid of them
too juvenile
havent picked up the benz yet. Still shopping. Going to also test drive a v90 dealer ordered locally that comes next week
DO IT!!!
Although I will say you can likely get a W212 E63 Wagon pre-facelift for not much more than that
I used to love the e63 w212 wagon. But once the face lift happens the pre face lift wagons looks horrendously dated so I don't want that
I have considered a few 2014+ e63 wagon. Price is about 75-85k for lower mileage ones.
Ao so I am looking at about a 15k delta in real world prices

This will be 4th DD wagon, thus the replacement will need to be a wagon
^ Well, you can't go wrong either way. We've loved our Benzes.
Be advised though... if you do step up to the AMG, the services will cost a bit more than the regular MB models
Be advised though... if you do step up to the AMG, the services will cost a bit more than the regular MB models






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