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Old 08-25-2015, 01:51 PM
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Seller is still trying to sell me on the fact the wagon is rare and hard to find even though he admitted to the fact that price I found is what he paid for it. Not wanting budge on his price. Guess it might be onto looking for another one.
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Missed a lot of discussion here! Manufacturer car is most of the time an exec car with GM. Occasionally, they are early-build cars and have slightly different parts lists than usual. Purchase without worries.

Edit: The prior owner of yours paid only $39k? With mods, I'd be offering $40-42k, which is more than reasonable.

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<p>Honestly, if I was to flip mine I'd list it for low 40's as that is where the market is. &nbsp;Hell, when I was looking I was finding (and having people offer me) cars that had similar miles to mine, some 2011 models&nbsp;for mid-40's.&nbsp; Even currently they are around there on eBay and the forum.</p><p>So if you like the one you found Jason, I say go for it. &nbsp;Low 40's with mods is a good deal...</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
Missed a lot of discussion here! Manufacturer car is most of the time an exec car with GM. Occasionally, they are early-build cars and have slightly different parts lists than usual. Purchase without worries.

Edit: The prior owner of yours paid only $39k? With mods, I'd be offering $40-42k, which is more than reasonable.
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<p>Honestly, if I was to flip mine I'd list it for low 40's as that is where the market is. &nbsp;Hell, when I was looking I was finding (and having people offer me) cars that had similar miles to mine, some 2011 models&nbsp;for mid-40's.&nbsp; Even currently they are around there on eBay and the forum.</p><p>So if you like the one you found Jason, I say go for it. &nbsp;Low 40's with mods is a good deal...</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
Thanks guys. I have no issues with paying 42k for the car if I can get him down to that amount. They are all mods I would probably eventually do anyways so have them done is fine by me besides losing out on the fun of doing them. I am sure I will find other things to do He also has all of the stock parts except the exhaust which to me is a big deal in case I ever need to warranty the blower at all for any reason.
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<p>^ Can you refresh my memory? &nbsp;What are the details (mileage, asking price, mods, etc)?</p>
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
<p>^ Can you refresh my memory? &nbsp;What are the details (mileage, asking price, mods, etc)?</p>
I will send you a PM. Not going to post up information making it too obvious what car it is in case I don't buy it the seller has the opportunity to try and get what he is looking for.
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CCC...I spoke with this guy today, his name is Mario...
Fucking Gray Wagon, 6MT...but same deal...exec car. He's at $45K asking price and willing to negotiate "a little".

I can't spend that kinda money and I pulled back the reigns on my search, so I'd suggest you call him.

His has 7300 miles...6MT...dark gray...
downsides:
salvage title due GM exec or some driving school thing...he has all paper work
light interior...and sunroof plug ( why? weight?)

Anyway...

I'm not really sharing anything too personal about my interaction so I figured I'd openly share in case it's a viable option for you.

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Originally Posted by rockstar143
CCC...I spoke with this guy today, his name is Mario...
<br /><br /><br /><br />Fucking Gray Wagon, 6MT...but same deal...exec car. He's at $45K asking price and willing to negotiate "a little". <br /><br /><br />I can't spend that kinda money and I pulled back the reigns on my search, so I'd suggest you call<br />His has 7300 miles...6MT...dark gray...<br />downsides:<br /><br />salvage title due GM exec or some driving school thing...he has all paper work<br />light interior...and sunroof plug (<img src="images/smilies/what.gif" border="0" alt="" title="what" smilieid="266" class="inlineimg" /> why? weight?)<br />Anyway...<br /><br />I'm not really sharing anything too personal about my interaction so I figured I'd openly share in case it's a viable option for you.
<br /><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?entit ySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d139&amp;radius=50 &amp;zip=33325&amp;sourceContext=RecentSearches_fa lse_0#listing=119515885" target="_blank">Used Cadillac CTS-V For Sale Fort Lauderdale, FL - CarGurus</a>
<br />LOL, too funny. I talked to him too when i was looking. Really nice guy. He has two cars...black wagon (auto) and gray wagon (6m). Both were track cars at the GM driving school...so they are beyond exec cars and were beat on at a track. Miles are low but they have a rebuilt title. I thought about it for a second but decided against it. I don't care what proof you have, a rebuilt title is a tough sell and i didnt want to get stuck with that if i ever sold. The wagons are in demand, but they are not so rare that a salvage/rebuilt is worth that much. There are plenty of non-salvage cars around for a lot less money.

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Bean...you sound like my wife
she's like...dafuq? are you fucking stupid...salvage, rebuilt, it's all fuckery you will not partake in AND light colored leather AND no sunroof AND 10K more than you said a V might cost.

Okay babe...

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Originally Posted by rockstar143
Bean...you sound like my wife <img src="images/smilies/rofl.gif" border="0" alt="" title="rofl" smilieid="202" class="inlineimg" /><br /><br /><br />
<br /><br /><br />she's like...dafuq? are you fucking stupid...salvage, rebuilt, it's all fuckery you will not partake in AND light colored leather AND no sunroof AND 10K more than you said a V might cost. <br />
<br /><br /><br />Okay babe...<br />
<br /><br /><br /><img src="images/smilies/bored.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Bored" smilieid="41" class="inlineimg" />
LOL, well, it's true. I mean my Porsche had a CLEAN title with a parking lot incident on CarFax which i had all documentation for and that was a tough sell. I couldn't imagine a rebuilt title, regardless of the background story.
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<br />If they were like low $30k then maybe, but i couldn't justify paying the same or more than a clean car for it knowing that ever selling it would be tough. I'm sure the right buyer will come along, but just wasn't for me.

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For sure, JB...that's called making a rational decision and not following your heart. Which is an adult move...trust me...I was feeling pretty fucking dopey for a 6MT Vagon in my ALMOST price range.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
CCC...I spoke with this guy today, his name is Mario...
Fucking Gray Wagon, 6MT...but same deal...exec car. He's at $45K asking price and willing to negotiate "a little".

I can't spend that kinda money and I pulled back the reigns on my search, so I'd suggest you call him.

His has 7300 miles...6MT...dark gray...
downsides:
salvage title due GM exec or some driving school thing...he has all paper work
light interior...and sunroof plug ( why? weight?)

Anyway...

I'm not really sharing anything too personal about my interaction so I figured I'd openly share in case it's a viable option for you.

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$45k for a Monticello race car? No wonder he paid only $39k. Would PASS on that. Those cars technically cannot be titled in some states because of salvage title, and many lenders won't lend to you for a salvage title. Those cars are beat on like crazy at tracks like Monticello.

Further what he says in that ad about executive cars losing their warranty is not true. Cars released to GM employees keep a factory warranty and are maintained by GM itself....those are the GM manufacturer cars to get, and they don't have a salvage title.

Move on to the next one IMHO. Rare or not, most wagons still have a factory warranty on them except for the 2011s.

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<p>Bob be looking out.. </p>
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<p>Even though it's not even 2 oil changes in.. it's probably been driven harder and taken more wear than a V with 10x the miles.</p>
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Then the one I am looking at appears to be an Exec car then based on Bobs info. Cause the old dealer listing I found showed it still came with a GM warranty when it was sold last winter. It also isn't listed as a rebuilt title.
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I sent Majofo a PM and it didn't bounce back saying it was full
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Originally Posted by Majofo
<p>Bob be looking out.. </p>
Hell yeah! Just because wagons are rare doesn't mean folks should get something they didn't bargain for. And that guy was either misinformed or fibbing.

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Then the one I am looking at appears to be an Exec car then based on Bobs info. Cause the old dealer listing I found showed it still came with a GM warranty when it was sold last winter. It also isn't listed as a rebuilt title.
That one may be safe then. PM me the deets for further comment.
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PM sent Bob
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You are the fkng man, Bob...
Thanks for the information. I kinda decided to cool my jets on the search for a new car.

I hate being responsible.
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<p>^ Good call.</p><p>An executive car wouldn't bother me b/c the title is clean and warranty is in tact... but those racetrack cars scare me. &nbsp;There were a couple on eBay a few months back (different ones) and I don't think they sold either. &nbsp;</p><p>Thing is someone may want them... but not at &quot;regular&quot; CTS-V wagon pricing. &nbsp;If I'm buying a car with a rebuilt title that is out of warranty and was used as a track car, I better be paying at least 30-40% below market for it.</p>
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<p>
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<img alt="" src="https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/what.gif" title="what" /> I sent Majofo a PM and it didn't bounce back saying it was full
</p><p>Spoke too soon! <img alt="" src="https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif" title="rofl" /></p><p>I made room.. barely.</p>
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
You are the fkng man, Bob... Thanks for the information. I kinda decided to cool my jets on the search for a new car. I hate being responsible.
</p><p>Seriously, get some seat time.. you need to put in the towel if you know what I mean.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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Originally Posted by Majofo
<p></p><p>Spoke too soon! <img alt="" src="https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif" title="rofl" /></p><p>I made room.. barely.</p>
I tried to reply back though and it did say it was full
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In a way, my towel is already pretty used up...

I know...but now I'm afraid it'll go from a want to a need if I drive one.
In other news, with the TL raised up slightly and the slightly beefier tires, it's driving pretty nicely. I guess I'm getting old and not want it to drive like shiet for the sake of slammed stance so cool...

I also have been driving it in reverse everywhere so I can say I have a RWD sedan racekor.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
I tried to reply back though and it did say it was full <img alt="" src="images/smilies/rofl.gif" title="rofl" />
</p><p>I left 1 slot open.. hurry. </p><p>or you can just post in here in blanco texto.. the other guys won't read. </p>
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solamente negro, aqui...puto...
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<p>You're such a textist turdbung&nbsp;J.. Every color is accepted on <span style="color:#FF0000">A</span><span style="color:#0000FF">c</span><span style="color:#FF8C00">u</span><span style="color:#FFFF00">r</span><span style="color:#008000">a</span><span style="color:#00FF00">z</span><span style="color:#FF0000">i</span><span style="color:#FFF0F5">n</span>e.&nbsp;</p>
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I see no colors...
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Originally Posted by Majofo
<p></p><p>I left 1 slot open.. hurry. </p><p>or you can just post in here in blanco texto.. the other guys won't read. </p>
Done
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So I was going to give it a couple of days and hit him back with one last offer but he actually messaged me today seeing if I was still interested in trying to close the gap at all that we have between each others prices. I made one more offer this lunch. It was my final offer so we will see what happens. Hopefully he accepts. It was closer to his price than it was mine.
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how far of a gap?
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We were about 3k apart
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<p>Good luck!! </p><p>I'm stockpiling some items so if you get yours we can have a Vagon mod day </p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p></p><p>It's going to happen.. &nbsp;I feel it. </p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
<p>Good luck!! </p><p>I'm stockpiling some items so if you get yours we can have a Vagon mod day </p><p>&nbsp;</p>
Only mods I will be doing right away is maybe wrapping the wood trim. So I will gladly come help you install some parts though. I miss working on cars.
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I need to lock this thread up and throw away the key...

I should ban myself.
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Just do it
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No...YOU! Pay the 3K!
I swear...if my point were 30K...TL could get sold...make payment $400 or less...
at 35-40K...I'd have to sell both the TL and S2000 to make it reasonable to me...
and I am not confident I'd be happy about losing both those and having a payment in one fell swoop just to have a badazz powerful heavy bad mpg panty machine.

I wish my wife would let me just buy all the cars. I need 1 of each. Except the Aztec...I don't need that one.
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<p>
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Only mods I will be doing right away is maybe wrapping the wood trim. So I will gladly come help you install some parts though. I miss working on cars.
I don't have anything major... mostly lighting stuff.. which, unfortunately, requires the front bumper to come off. &nbsp;So... if I'm going to take that off, may as well buy the front splitter and new grills. &nbsp;So I'm working on stockpiling those things so I can do the work in the winter <img alt="" src="https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" title="Smile" /></p>

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Originally Posted by juniorbean
<p>I don't have anything major... mostly lighting stuff.. which, unfortunately, requires the front bumper to come off. &nbsp;So... if I'm going to take that off, may as well buy the front splitter and new grills. &nbsp;So I'm working on stockpiling those things so I can do the work in the winter <img alt="" src="https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" title="Smile" /></p>
What requires the bumper to come off besides a grill and splitter? Also what grill are you going with? You going to do the blank grill with the new V badges or just a black grill?


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