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Old Jul 2, 2019 | 05:27 PM
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I am getting strong Jeff Goldblum vibes from that video...
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Old Jul 3, 2019 | 02:37 AM
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Ok.... i guess BMW is doubling down on their gigantic grilles... they are lighting them up now too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJyjJmlBNlg

Saw the new super-sized kidney bean grille on an X5 coming towards me the other day. FUGLY.
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Old Jul 3, 2019 | 06:11 AM
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^wait till it grows on you.
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Old Jul 3, 2019 | 06:56 AM
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Old Jul 3, 2019 | 07:09 AM
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I guess Mike had a Bimmer

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Old Jul 3, 2019 | 08:50 AM
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Spectacular!

It exudes grace and refinement.
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Old Jul 3, 2019 | 12:08 PM
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I think those are perfect to battle it out with Lexus... and you know Audi is not just gonna sit on the sideline...just wait until they start tweaking their grille...
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Old Jul 3, 2019 | 12:30 PM
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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 11:08 AM
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Continuing with the theme of hideous BMW grills .... dafuq is that concept car wearing on its nose? No wonder the CEO's out.









BMW CEO Steps Down After a Too-Cautious Strategy Loses Market Share

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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 04:04 PM
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I did not know Gordon Ramsay had a brother
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Old Jul 10, 2019 | 06:32 PM
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I normally do not like GT wings... But i saw this in person and i am thinking about getting 1.

https://www.ebay.com/i/273584283042?...SABEgKMVvD_BwE

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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 10:38 AM
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I think it's settled, I was looking at used 981 Caymans but hearing horror stories from owners about maintenance scared me. I have always wanted an ND, and nobody wants to sit in the back of my BRZ anyway

Already have an SUV if I need to haul things. Still going back and forth between an RF or not, but I would drive with the top down often and the RF isn't a real top down experience... plus I dislike that little quarter window.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 10:43 AM
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What about the 987 Cayman? That's probably going to be my next step. Prices are pretty reasonable and general maintenance is very DIY-able.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 10:54 AM
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I loved the 987 when it came out, but the pre-facelift rear has not aged well



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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 10:56 AM
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Not crazy about the 987 bodystyle and interior anymore. I like the gadgets...
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 11:02 AM
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Mid-engine is a gadget
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 11:05 AM
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That's fair, I'd stay away from the pre-facelift cars anyway (IMS failures...). I'd love to snag a Cayman R, but they're still commanding a pretty high amount. The interior on the 981 is really nice, but after driving a 987, I'm sold. It's "old school", but in the right ways. I test drove a 2011 Cayman S along with a C6 Grand Sport, and I thought the overall quality of the Cayman was leaps ahead of the GS, plus it just felt like a way more planted car. The Vette felt like I was sitting on top of the car (even though it had the optional sportier seats), while the Porsche felt like I was sitting in it. And the steering... it was magnificent... The Vette, not so much.

Anyway, I think the RF is a great looking car, but the added weight is silly for a Miata. Kinda wish they pulled a Lotus and offered a cloth top that was manually removable (and foldable). I vote regular ND.

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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 11:17 AM
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Yeah, my buddy has an '09 with the resolved IMS issue. It's the 2.7L but still really fun to drive and decent on gas. I spend 80% or more of my time sitting in traffic anyway. My BRZ has yet to break 40k miles and it's my daily. Again, nobody wants to sit in the back

I was thinking soft top too, for the same reasons. The roofline is sexy as hell on the RF, but it just seems like too much of a compromise. Plus a rollbar will up my hardpark game exponentially women will be lining up just to throw their sopping wet pantaloons at me.

That's how I know I am really interested in a car, anyone else? Before I even buy it, I start looking at modifications I can do to it... I spent an hour listening to various exhaust clips for the ND and reading about the DG Motorsports hardtop.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 11:20 AM
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That's usually how I approach purchasing anything


Me - "If it's not as powerful as I'd like it, can I swap motors?"

Salesperson - "Sir, it's a blender."

Me - ...
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Costco
I think it's settled, I was looking at used 981 Caymans but hearing horror stories from owners about maintenance scared me. I have always wanted an ND, and nobody wants to sit in the back of my BRZ anyway

Already have an SUV if I need to haul things. Still going back and forth between an RF or not, but I would drive with the top down often and the RF isn't a real top down experience... plus I dislike that little quarter window.

You guys are going about this all wrong.

The right answer is S2000.

Won't depreciate
No silly hard top in the way
Cheaper to buy
Cheaper to run
Tons of fun
Best MT ever made
Excellent build quality
Don't have to explain that it's not your GF's/wife's car
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 11:23 AM
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Soft Top ND >>>>> RF ND

Do it!

Then get friendly with Goodwin Racing & Flyin Miata.

Edelbrock also makes a S/C for the ND....


Or.....buy Sam's S2k & call it a day.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 11:29 AM
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Am I the only one that prefers the NC over the ND? (Especially as it relates to pricing)

I rode in one with a 255 square tire setup with suspension / RPF1s ... that thing looked great and handled fantastic.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 11:32 AM
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ND > NB > NA > NC

For me, the NC is my least favorite generation.

Love the ND, and hopefully they're in a good price range when I'm in the market, otherwise a Shinsen NB would be my choice.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 11:42 AM
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Am I the only one that prefers the NC over the ND? (Especially as it relates to pricing)

I rode in one with a 255 square tire setup with suspension / RPF1s ... that thing looked great and handled fantastic.
I prefer NC over ND when it comes to pricing and exterior styling but the interior of the ND is in a different league.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Costco
I think it's settled, I was looking at used 981 Caymans but hearing horror stories from owners about maintenance scared me. I have always wanted an ND, and nobody wants to sit in the back of my BRZ anyway

Already have an SUV if I need to haul things. Still going back and forth between an RF or not, but I would drive with the top down often and the RF isn't a real top down experience... plus I dislike that little quarter window.
Um.....how can you not mention S2000?.....
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
You guys are going about this all wrong.

The right answer is S2000.

Won't depreciate
No silly hard top in the way
Cheaper to buy
Cheaper to run
Tons of fun
Best MT ever made
Excellent build quality
Don't have to explain that it's not your GF's/wife's car
I have driven a few different S2000s, both stock and modified and love them. Very good points. But...

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I like the gadgets...
Also, I am a little paranoid living here. Someone broke into my Integra when I parked for 45 mins in a downtown garage. Seen too many horror stories of people getting their tops ripped for the seats, then when the thieves can't get the seats out because the bolts are loctite'd in, they cut the seats too. Read a thread about a guy with an Elise (yes, I looked at those too getting his top ripped and Elise stolen while inside of a gated parking garage.

Yeah I need to move out of the hood, but I'm already cringing at how much I pay to live here as is. Moving closer to work would be even more expensive.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 11:56 AM
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I don't care what people think of me or my car. I drove an F-Body FFS. I embraced the yellowneck.

They can laugh at my little girly car as I pass them by on the track. I'll even wave toodles with a floppy-broken-wrist hand gesture in the process
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 12:10 PM
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Oh yeah I don't wanna hear it from Samthough, his S2K touches pavement 2 weeks out of the year
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
I prefer NC over ND when it comes to pricing and exterior styling but the interior of the ND is in a different league.
I would buy a Miata strictly for track duty ... the interior is the last thing I'd be admiring .

If I can save nearly $7k - $9k and put down similar times, that's the route I'd take
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
You guys are going about this all wrong.

The right answer is S2000.

Won't depreciate
No silly hard top in the way
Cheaper to buy
Cheaper to run
Tons of fun
Best MT ever made
Excellent build quality
Don't have to explain that it's not your GF's/wife's car
I can't fit in one . 6'5"
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 1killercls
I can't fit in one . 6'5"
Have you tried?
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 01:48 PM
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Actually he will fit... but his legs might not be able to move freely since the steering wheel is not adjustable...

Also there is the width issue...

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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 01:58 PM
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Actually he will fit... but his legs might not be able to move freely since the steering wheel is not adjustable...

Also there is the width issue...
Width is the bigger issue than length. There's infinite headroom.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 02:28 PM
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As always, girth > length
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 03:07 PM
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Am wide, can confirm.

Sat in an S2k once. Felt snug everywhere. I wasn't cramped or squeezed at all but it definitely didn't feel like I had room.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 03:07 PM
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ND got an adjustable steering wheel in 2018(?).
I guess it's all about proportion, if you're a really long-legged 6'+ I could see it being an issue.
Same for being long-torsoed & putting the top up Just kidding, top down, always.

I'm 6'0" & haven't driven anything that was a tight fit, Miata, S2k, Mini, 70s Spirfire, etc.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Aman
Am wide, can confirm.

Sat in an S2k once. Felt snug everywhere. I wasn't cramped or squeezed at all but it definitely didn't feel like I had room.
So you are saving $$ because you dont need bucket seats anymore on the track...
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 09:40 PM
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seen this on the channel........ good gravy


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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 09:47 PM
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^^^^Uhhh, what? Why would someone be paying 21.5% over 72 months?
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 10:10 PM
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rhetorical question; but i'll bite.

because poor credit
probably has $70k in credit card debt as well


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