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Old 05-20-2019, 09:39 AM
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Yeah brah all that marketing bullshit.. can withstand +1000F temps, hard coat like diamonds, forever coating, warrantied




Plus the price of entry on some bottles is crazy and their multilayer application..
I thought you couldn't recoat, have to compound off.. that alone is like fuck no.
Plus the prep to actually apply.. hell nah.



If you're paying someone to prep your shitty paint, then it might be worth +500.. but otherwise pass.
$1300.. wtf.
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I like a dirty bitch anyways
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Old 05-20-2019, 10:01 AM
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Seriously...I seen guys get a full PPF on their Golfs (typically around $2k for the full car) and then have it ceramic coated Waste of money. Just use the PPF. It's more protective. And yes, you'll need to compound it off, which would be a bitch. I've got to compound one spot because my buddy (who was buffing the ceramic coat off after I applied it) missed a small spot. You can't see it unless the lighting is perfect and you know where to look, which is why I haven't done it yet.

It also makes body work a pain in the ass. If you don't tell the shop that the car is coated, they will try to blend the paint, and it won't stick properly. The surface will need to be prepped differently to get a good finish, and they need to use different equipment to do it because the ceramic can fuck shit up quickly.




But yeah I like my coating
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Old 05-20-2019, 08:41 PM
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Maybe I'm just lazy, but the biggest pro of ceramic coating to me is longevity. Nothing else can touch it. Washing cars for me is kind of a PITA (apartment), so the less I need to do it the better.
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:08 AM
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Cost wise, I think the professional coatings are bullshit. Most professionals charge around $1300 to do it. They say it lasts 5-7 years, but I have a hard time believing that. Also, you should use a specific soap to maintain the ceramic coat. With that said, the consumer line is a bit more worth while in my opinion. If you're comfortable polishing a car, then you should have no problem applying the coating. Something like CQuartz UK is around $100 to coat a car. Theoretically, CQuartz says the coating is good for 2 years, which is less then the pro line, but its also costs $1200 (on average) less. You can recoat with the consumer line every year for 10 years and still pay less then the pro coating that - theoretically - lasts 7 years.

I've had my car coated for 13 months with the consumer line product. I wash it using their soap, which is around $27 for a bottle. I use a 1:9 soap:water mixture and it lasts me around 15 washes. I've not recoated the car in that time at all, but water still beads like it did early on, and - most importantly in my opinion - the car is way easier to clean as the dirt and grime just rinses off the paint. It's amazing on wheels as well, since brake dust just wipes off.

The biggest misunderstanding I see on forums is that people think ceramic coating will protect from scratches and rock chips. Get PPF if you're looking for that level of protection. Think of ceramic coating as harder clear coat.
The NSX is the first car I have ever had with ceramic coating on it. The above statement is the best part of it to me. The fact that bugs and road dirt just don't stick to the car at all. Other cars that are waxed I need to get out the bug and tar remover almost every other wash to get a stubborn bug off. I took the NSX on the road trip to PA. After 1100 miles I gave it a simple wash and all the bugs and dirt came off with no extra scrubbing effort just a simple 30min wash. It was nice to have on the original set of wheels too. Just hose them off basically and they were almost fully clean with just that. I am a believer in it for sure. That car at a minimum will get it done soon again since it will probably be worn off as the water doesn't bead off as well as it first did. Maybe I should be using a wash specifically for it to make it last longer.
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:59 AM
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Soap that's specifically for ceramic coatings is recommended. That's probably why mine still beads like it did on day one - I've never used any other soap on it.
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My Audi was Claybarred and waxed with Carnuba wax 2 weeks ago. was going to do a Ceramic coating...after reading this thread think I might not. The car looks brand new..
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Old 05-21-2019, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr View Post
Soap that's specifically for ceramic coatings is recommended. That's probably why mine still beads like it did on day one - I've never used any other soap on it.
Had no idea this was a thing so I will need to pick up a bottle and see if it helps things.
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Old 05-21-2019, 11:40 AM
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My Audi was Claybarred and waxed with Carnuba wax 2 weeks ago. was going to do a Ceramic coating...after reading this thread think I might not. The car looks brand new..
You can do a carnauba over ceramic, but the existing carnauba will be removed in the surface prep for the coating.
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:30 PM
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How does Alfa Romeo/Fiat make their turbo four exhaust sound so good and no one else seems to have figured it out.

I just saw a 4c drive by and the exhaust sounded great for a four banger. Throaty and deep (title of your sex tape). The 500 Abarth is the same way.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:48 PM
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Gotta ditch the muffler on certain cars or go with a very free-flowing one. A turbo is a better muffler than any muffler out there for a 4-cylinder, if you're talking about sound. Probably too loud for most, though

I agree with you on the Abarth, the 4C I have seen only a couple of times but the driver never got on it on either occasion.

CTR and Cayman, sound like trash. STI and Focus RS sound good to me.
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:05 PM
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VW 4s sound like hot garbage too.

The 500 Abarth doesn't even run a muffler. It's straight piped from the factory
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:38 PM
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Can it pass the Smog? well obviously they could... interested to know how they do that.
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Ever since they implemented the Direct Injection, most of the turbo 4s all sound like leaf blower...
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:56 PM
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The muffler doesn't really do anything for emissions. It's just for sound.
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Off topic - I've been getting these ridiculous vehicle warranty calls on my work phone multiple times a day, every day, for the last 2 weeks or so. Today, I finally decided to have some fun with them. Everyone knows that telemarketers have to hit sales targets, and the longer they're on a call with someone, the worse their numbers look. So, I kept her on as long as possible

She first asked how many miles I had, I said 176,000 miles.

She asked what year it was. I said 2019 (and she didn't question it).

She asked if I had any oil leaks. I said there's a puddle under the car every day.

She asked if I knew where the leak was coming from. I said no, I don't even know the first place to look.

She asked if I change the oil every 3-5k miles. I said no, I change it every 20k.

She paused, then asked why. I said oil changes every 5-10k are too expensive, and I have to add so much oil every day because of the leak that I figure it's cleaning itself.

She said ooooooh k...well good news, it looks like you're prequalified (of course I would be!).

She then started reading off all the things that are covered. I asked what the deductible was, and she started reading all those terms too (only $100 out of pocket for repairs!)

She then said it will be covered to 3 years or 100k miles. I asked her to confirm that my car will be covered until 276,000 miles, and she paused again...then asked if it was a 2019 (yes, it is).

Then she asked how I have so many miles. I told her that I drive a lot, every single day.

She then confirmed that yes, I will be covered until 276k miles. Awesome!

Then I asked if I brought the car in to have all of the problems fixed at once, do I still only pay $100? She asked "what other problems?"

So I said that the back windows no longer work, the ac works sometimes, there's the oil leak, and the transmission clunks. If I go to the shop to have this stuff all fixed at the same time, I only pay $100?

She paused a third time. Then said "I'm sorry, it looks like your vehicle doesn't qualify for a warranty. I said "darn, that really stinks" in the most sarcastic way I possibly could. Then she hung up.


I wonder if they'll call again. I'm having fun with it
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:49 PM
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The muffler doesn't really do anything for emissions. It's just for sound.
i thought straight pipe = no cat or resonator and it is somewhat straight
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Off topic - I've been getting these ridiculous vehicle warranty calls on my work phone multiple times a day, every day, for the last 2 weeks or so. Today, I finally decided to have some fun with them. Everyone knows that telemarketers have to hit sales targets, and the longer they're on a call with someone, the worse their numbers look. So, I kept her on as long as possible

She first asked how many miles I had, I said 176,000 miles.

She asked what year it was. I said 2019 (and she didn't question it).

She asked if I had any oil leaks. I said there's a puddle under the car every day.

She asked if I knew where the leak was coming from. I said no, I don't even know the first place to look.

She asked if I change the oil every 3-5k miles. I said no, I change it every 20k.

She paused, then asked why. I said oil changes every 5-10k are too expensive, and I have to add so much oil every day because of the leak that I figure it's cleaning itself.

She said ooooooh k...well good news, it looks like you're prequalified (of course I would be!).

She then started reading off all the things that are covered. I asked what the deductible was, and she started reading all those terms too (only $100 out of pocket for repairs!)

She then said it will be covered to 3 years or 100k miles. I asked her to confirm that my car will be covered until 276,000 miles, and she paused again...then asked if it was a 2019 (yes, it is).

Then she asked how I have so many miles. I told her that I drive a lot, every single day.

She then confirmed that yes, I will be covered until 276k miles. Awesome!

Then I asked if I brought the car in to have all of the problems fixed at once, do I still only pay $100? She asked "what other problems?"

So I said that the back windows no longer work, the ac works sometimes, there's the oil leak, and the transmission clunks. If I go to the shop to have this stuff all fixed at the same time, I only pay $100?

She paused a third time. Then said "I'm sorry, it looks like your vehicle doesn't qualify for a warranty. I said "darn, that really stinks" in the most sarcastic way I possibly could. Then she hung up.


I wonder if they'll call again. I'm having fun with it
You are better man than i am... i usually literally tell them to fuck off... but they are the only ones who still call me everyday... my friends and family dont even call me...
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:55 PM
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She's a sucker.. you'd be out of warranty in 6 to 7 months..
I'd delay your claim til after or say it was preexisting..
Coverage will kick in after you get it fixed on your dime.
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:57 PM
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She had the golden egg on the line and let it go
She'll never get out of that call center
Unless she succs dicc for cash
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Old 05-22-2019, 03:21 PM
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my friends and family dont even call me...
This thread just got too real
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They all prefer text or other messaging app..... when i do call them, they would ask why didnt i just text them instead......

Even my mom is like "weeechat me"
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My mom gets a new messaging/calling app every week it seems like.
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She had the golden egg on the line and let it go
She'll never get out of that call center
Unless she succs dicc for cash
Where did that ever get Chad?
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https://uk.motor1.com/news/352213/tu...ng-record-lap/

Think about a new lap record at the Nürburgring. What do you see? Is it something exotic? Maybe it’s Italian like Lamborghini, or Koenigsegg made a surprise visit to Germany’s legendary race track. The Nürburgring is famous as the go-to venue for supercar oneupmanship—the faster, the better. However, not everything that sets a lap record is fast. A three-wheeled tuk-tuk - a petrol-powered automotive rickshaw - recently set a new lap record at the track, completing the gruelling 12.9-mile Nordschleife course in just over 31 minutes—31:49.46 to be exact, according to The Drive.

See, not every record is fast; however, that doesn’t make it any less sketchy. The unnamed driver drove around the track with two passengers on the tuk-tuk’s rear bench seat for authenticity purposes. According to one rider, the relatively slow lap was still a scary experience, calling the tuk-tuk unstable and flimsy. The rickshaw even took a few corners on just two wheels, which sounds downright frightening regardless of speed. Some back-of-the-napkin math says the tuk-tuk travelled at an average speed of about 24 miles per hour. That’s not fast by any stretch of the imagination.

This isn’t the first time the team has attempted to set a record at the Nürburgring in a tuk-tuk. According to The Drive, Granturismo Events, the team behind the lap attempt, imported the tuk-tuk from Thailand three years ago for the sole purpose of setting the record. The team tried to set a record last year; however, it broke down. The team then turned to the company that makes engine components for Koenigsegg. They asked the company for stronger forged pistons.

While your standard, everyday tuk-tuk may not be up to the task of conquering the Nürburgring, it doesn’t mean it’s impossible. A few upgrades can turn any tuk-tuk into a Nürburgring king, even if it takes half an hour. Better late than never, right?
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The Koenigsegg Tuk-Tuk
Loaners for when your Agera is in fer service.
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That actually seems pretty fast for a tuk tuk
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I was in Germany last week for business and I just realized I was about an hour away from the Nürburgring while staying in one town... but wouldn't have had the time to go there. I at least got to drive our rental 5 series wagon on the Autobahn a lot. That was a lot of fun, and amazing car, too.
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Kudos to them, regardless of time that sounds like a terrifying experience.
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I wonder if it was the tuk tuk operating I had in Thailand. He somehow managed to get it up on two wheels while speeding down a Thai freeway and not have it tip over with myself and two other passengers crammed in the back. I for sure thought we were going to lose it. He kept yelling "I'm Mario." 10/10 would probably do it again.
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I wonder if it was the tuk tuk operating I had in Thailand. He somehow managed to get it up on two wheels while speeding down a Thai freeway and not have it tip over with myself and two other passengers crammed in the back. I for sure thought we were going to lose it. He kept yelling "I'm Mario." 10/10 would probably do it again.
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