General Car Talk Discussion Thread
07-12-2012, 02:03 PM
#1521
Flitz metal cleaner & polish works great on exhaust tips. You can also use brasso.
Unless your talking about the 90's where Ford & some other makes had specific CA emissions cars. Today's cars are certified for all states.
Assuming it's stock, it would be fine across state lines. Large manufacturers don't make cars that only be sold in one (or a few) states.
07-12-2012, 02:05 PM
#1522
Moderator
07-12-2012, 02:10 PM
#1523
Suzuka Master
so we finally got a koenigsegg in california!! 
I may get a chance to see it and a zonda among many other cars at HRE's open house this saturday
I may get a chance to see it and a zonda among many other cars at HRE's open house this saturday
07-12-2012, 02:17 PM
#1524
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iTrader: (3)
I am jealous.
07-14-2012, 12:02 PM
#1526
Whats up with RDX owners?
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07-14-2012, 12:34 PM
#1527
One on the right for me
I was really against wagons for a while...probably due to my age. Gas mileage does suck but I think once I take a step towards purchase it won't be the sedan.
07-15-2012, 03:03 AM
#1528
Suzuka Master
with the latest refreshes from german competitors i like them more. The CTS design is already outdated.
How much can an A6 be had for? Are we getting an A6/S6 wagon??
How much can an A6 be had for? Are we getting an A6/S6 wagon??
07-15-2012, 05:23 AM
#1529
Any Avants we more than likely won't be getting. German wagons over the past few years haven't been worth the time to bring over with such low sales.
07-15-2012, 08:40 AM
#1530
Fahrvergnügen'd
I'm going to guess a S6 Premium Plus is going to be a $65k car. Prestige closer to $70k and probably $80k with most of the bells and whistles.
07-15-2012, 01:16 PM
#1531
One on the right for me
I don't think the CTS is dated at all. And I can't imagine its maintenance costs approaching Audi territory. Dealer told me that to replace the alternator on the S6 (apparently an issue) involves removing the entire fucking engine.
07-15-2012, 08:02 PM
#1532
Yeah, the hottest cars I saw today were a yellow Gallardo and a pearl white CTS-V sedan.... hot chick driving it too. No pics, they were right behind me.
On the other hand, the ugliest car I saw today was a metallic burgundy CTS with a landau top
On the other hand, the ugliest car I saw today was a metallic burgundy CTS with a landau top
07-15-2012, 08:14 PM
#1533
Suzuka Master
i dunno obviously looks are all subjective. I've seen the CTS V wagon, although its ok from the side profile, especially if you get those gun metal looking wheels it looks good on a black color. The back just looks bad.
then again i'm partially not super fond of wagons. I love hatches, but wagons dont look as good as sedans.
then again i'm partially not super fond of wagons. I love hatches, but wagons dont look as good as sedans.
07-15-2012, 11:53 PM
#1537
I was never a fan of the wagon in the first place even in V guise but seeing it in person, it just looks "okay". Same deal with the V Coupe.
The sedan on the other hand.... so beast. Yes, subjectivity rules... I do love me the F10 M5 though, just haven't seen one in person yet.
The sedan on the other hand.... so beast. Yes, subjectivity rules... I do love me the F10 M5 though, just haven't seen one in person yet.
07-16-2012, 12:12 AM
#1538
Suzuka Master
I've seen both black and red V's.
Driven one as well.
I dunno it wasnt till a couple weeks ago when i was driving behind a wagon i realized i wasnt fond of its looks.
Driven one as well.
I dunno it wasnt till a couple weeks ago when i was driving behind a wagon i realized i wasnt fond of its looks.
07-16-2012, 12:28 AM
#1539
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
having fun with this car photo stuff. the next two cars in line are a GT-R (the one with 375/20 21's out back) and a 458. 
07-16-2012, 02:57 AM
#1540
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
Toyota developing MANUAL gearbox for future electric vehicles.... 
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...ic-tesla-rival
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...ic-tesla-rival
Toyota plans electric Tesla rival
Firm plans sporty battery-powered cars with electric motors mated to manual gearboxes
The Toyota GT2000 EV previews Toyota's electric powertrain
by Vicky Parrott
12 July 2012
Toyota is plotting an all-electric sports car to rival Tesla as part of a host of new performance models planned in the coming years.
Naohiko Saito, Toyota’s handling guru, has said the electric powertrain previewed in the Toyota 2000GT EV at the Goodwood Festival of Speed is “an early part of the development process involved in refining the technology”. He added that the technology would be seen first in a city car before being developed for a sports car.
That could involve mating a manual gearbox to the electric drivetrain, something which is being developed in the 2000GT EV. It channels power through an electric motor and works in conjunction with an inverter that alters torque levels being sent to the wheels depending on the ratio chosen.
Hiroyuki Ogawa, Toyota’s advanced drivetrain engineering chief, said there was “a desire to use a manual gearbox in our electric and hybrid sports cars”.
He added the CVT gearbox was “efficient but not fun”, and the manual ’box “promises much better feel for the driver”. A production manual hybrid from Toyota is at least three years away, he confirmed.
Firm plans sporty battery-powered cars with electric motors mated to manual gearboxes
The Toyota GT2000 EV previews Toyota's electric powertrain
by Vicky Parrott
12 July 2012
Toyota is plotting an all-electric sports car to rival Tesla as part of a host of new performance models planned in the coming years.
Naohiko Saito, Toyota’s handling guru, has said the electric powertrain previewed in the Toyota 2000GT EV at the Goodwood Festival of Speed is “an early part of the development process involved in refining the technology”. He added that the technology would be seen first in a city car before being developed for a sports car.
That could involve mating a manual gearbox to the electric drivetrain, something which is being developed in the 2000GT EV. It channels power through an electric motor and works in conjunction with an inverter that alters torque levels being sent to the wheels depending on the ratio chosen.
Hiroyuki Ogawa, Toyota’s advanced drivetrain engineering chief, said there was “a desire to use a manual gearbox in our electric and hybrid sports cars”.
He added the CVT gearbox was “efficient but not fun”, and the manual ’box “promises much better feel for the driver”. A production manual hybrid from Toyota is at least three years away, he confirmed.
07-16-2012, 09:14 AM
#1541
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iTrader: (3)
Interesting how higher-end marques such as Ferrari and Lamborghini are doing away with manual transmissions while Honda and Toyota are offering them in more vehicles.
07-16-2012, 04:01 PM
#1543
Suzuka Master
that would be weird haha a manual in an all electric car.
COming to the shift points you would have to pay close attention or i'd assume they'd but some audible tone to let you know you're nearing redline. Wait is there even a redline now?
COming to the shift points you would have to pay close attention or i'd assume they'd but some audible tone to let you know you're nearing redline. Wait is there even a redline now?
07-16-2012, 04:07 PM
#1544
Moderator
Most all-electric cars are only one-speed transmissions. No need to shift at all. In fact, a major contributor to the delay in getting the first Tesla model to market was their effort to develop a 2-speed trans...which (I don't think) they ever succeeded in doing.
07-16-2012, 04:32 PM
#1545
Suzuka Master
thats what i thought, i guess toyota wants to figure out a way then 
07-16-2012, 04:39 PM
#1546
Moderator
07-16-2012, 04:45 PM
#1547
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
for those wondering about sound options, see below. Toyota is a fun company, I would not be surprised at all if they implemented something similar to that in a production vehicle.
http://blog.roadandtrack.com/classic...ed-into-an-ev/
http://blog.roadandtrack.com/classic...ed-into-an-ev/
Classic Toyota 2000GT Turned Into an EV
January 19, 2012 by Nick Kurczewski
This could be your electric-powered dream machine, or your worst classic car nightmare. Under the auspices of the Toyota Automobile Association, and officially titled “Crazy Car Project,” a group of engineers have turned a Toyota 2000GT sports car into a solar-powered and zero-emissions classic.
That sounds fine, until you remember that Toyota built only 337 examples of the 2000GT from 1967-70. A convertible version – while never officially produced – made a very memorable appearance in the James Bond film “You Only Live Twice.” Powered by an inline-6, the rear-wheel-drive 2000GT is considered the first Japanese supercar. Pristine examples have sold for more than $300,000.
Apparently, tradition took a backseat to innovation with this EV project. Not only was the vintage engine replaced by an electric motor and lithium-ion battery pack, the engineers had some fun with the car’s exhaust note. EVs normally operate in near total silence. However, the driver of the 2000GT SEV (Solar Electric Vehicle) can opt for an exhaust note that sounds like a rocket, airplane, or horses galloping.
While it’s definitely amusing, we’re hoping the 2000GT’s original parts are sitting on a shelf somewhere, ready to be refitted once the novelty wears off.
January 19, 2012 by Nick Kurczewski
This could be your electric-powered dream machine, or your worst classic car nightmare. Under the auspices of the Toyota Automobile Association, and officially titled “Crazy Car Project,” a group of engineers have turned a Toyota 2000GT sports car into a solar-powered and zero-emissions classic.
That sounds fine, until you remember that Toyota built only 337 examples of the 2000GT from 1967-70. A convertible version – while never officially produced – made a very memorable appearance in the James Bond film “You Only Live Twice.” Powered by an inline-6, the rear-wheel-drive 2000GT is considered the first Japanese supercar. Pristine examples have sold for more than $300,000.
Apparently, tradition took a backseat to innovation with this EV project. Not only was the vintage engine replaced by an electric motor and lithium-ion battery pack, the engineers had some fun with the car’s exhaust note. EVs normally operate in near total silence. However, the driver of the 2000GT SEV (Solar Electric Vehicle) can opt for an exhaust note that sounds like a rocket, airplane, or horses galloping.
While it’s definitely amusing, we’re hoping the 2000GT’s original parts are sitting on a shelf somewhere, ready to be refitted once the novelty wears off.
07-16-2012, 04:48 PM
#1548
Moderator
for those wondering about sound options, see below. Toyota is a fun company, I would not be surprised at all if they implemented something similar to that in a production vehicle.
http://blog.roadandtrack.com/classic...ed-into-an-ev/
http://blog.roadandtrack.com/classic...ed-into-an-ev/
07-16-2012, 04:51 PM
#1549
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
oh. not a fan of your car sounding like galloping horses, I take it.
btw Audi is already using a whooshing airplane kind of sound on their E-tron concept models.
btw Audi is already using a whooshing airplane kind of sound on their E-tron concept models.
07-16-2012, 05:15 PM
#1550
Moderator
That would be stating it mildly.
I never considered myself an automotive "purist", but I am starting to re-evaluate that about myself; I just can't get on board with some of this crap.
I never considered myself an automotive "purist", but I am starting to re-evaluate that about myself; I just can't get on board with some of this crap.
07-16-2012, 05:18 PM
#1551
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
I guess you haven't seen this:
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07-16-2012, 05:23 PM
#1552
Moderator
iTrader: (3)
OT for a second...but who else loves these?...
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3109540200.html
This is great looking as well...
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3140754067.html
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3109540200.html
This is great looking as well...
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3140754067.html
07-16-2012, 05:25 PM
#1553
Moderator
07-16-2012, 05:37 PM
#1554
Suzuka Master
i think there should be some sound, for safety and the "electric" tone they made is better than nothing iMO
07-16-2012, 05:57 PM
#1555
Sure, it's for safety, but I think the part of a car's soul is derived from its sound.
Part of the reason why Teslas, as fast and capable as they are, have very little appeal to me.
Part of the reason why Teslas, as fast and capable as they are, have very little appeal to me.
07-16-2012, 06:05 PM
#1556
My first Avatar....
07-16-2012, 06:39 PM
#1558
or even anything cheaper for that matter
07-16-2012, 07:14 PM
#1559
Fahrvergnügen'd
OT for a second...but who else loves these?...
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3109540200.html
This is great looking as well...
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3140754067.html
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3109540200.html
This is great looking as well...
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3140754067.html