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I think i can find some kind of fake exhaust tips from almost every brand now...
At least Lexus started that Gansta shit... but wait... i think they were some fake ones way before Lexus....
At least Lexus started that Gansta shit... but wait... i think they were some fake ones way before Lexus....
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The only difference between a Ford Flex and a minivan is the sliding doors. So...you're essentially driving a minivan.
Who cares though? A car is a tool and for efficiently moving a lot of people and shit around, a minivan is second to none. The only difference between most three row "CUVs" today and a modern van is the sliding doors and a mild lift kit.
Who cares though? A car is a tool and for efficiently moving a lot of people and shit around, a minivan is second to none. The only difference between most three row "CUVs" today and a modern van is the sliding doors and a mild lift kit.
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The Bisi van is vaporware as far as I'm concerned.. the Honda Mfg Race Team Ody on the other hand..
In near stock form that is.. my favorite sleepers are vans with a boosted LSx or other small block platform 
Case in point:
This is the story of my 9 second 78 Chevy Short Van! By Dave Jarvis. | Readers Rides | Vannin' Community and Forums
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2M6zMfXVTA
Case in point:
This is the story of my 9 second 78 Chevy Short Van! By Dave Jarvis. | Readers Rides | Vannin' Community and Forums
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2M6zMfXVTA
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I'm guessing 99% of all Ford Flex units sold are never modded at all and especially not engine mods.
Being fast is not what a van is designed to do. For the intended purpose of efficiently moving people and their crap, it's second to none. The CUV market only came into being when people decided that minivans are "uncool" for whatever reason. That's all most CUVs are anyway, lifted (sometimes not even this) vans without sliding doors.
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Anything is capable of that with the right amount of money thrown at it.
I'm guessing 99% of all Ford Flex units sold are never modded at all and especially not engine mods.
Being fast is not what a van is designed to do. For the intended purpose of efficiently moving people and their crap, it's second to none. The CUV market only came into being when people decided that minivans are "uncool" for whatever reason. That's all most CUVs are anyway, lifted (sometimes not even this) vans without sliding doors.
I'm guessing 99% of all Ford Flex units sold are never modded at all and especially not engine mods.
Being fast is not what a van is designed to do. For the intended purpose of efficiently moving people and their crap, it's second to none. The CUV market only came into being when people decided that minivans are "uncool" for whatever reason. That's all most CUVs are anyway, lifted (sometimes not even this) vans without sliding doors.
We're talking in mostly stock form (stock internals). In pure stock form with just a tune, you gain 70hp/70ftlb.
A crossover is a SUV on a car platform noted for being able to carry passengers and shit yet have nimble handling and enough power to get you moving (good at everything, great at nothing).
A minivan is typically only good for carrying geris and kids, not good at anything else. Several things have improved. But many crossovers carry just as much, and do everything else better.
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Wanna drive the McLaren P1, Poopdick McFartington, and Porsche 918? Well, incoming event will let you...sure, to the preorder tune of $10K USD (starting). For the full access, it will be $150K.
From here: Hypercar Holy Trinity Event Is What Dreams Are Made Of
From here: Hypercar Holy Trinity Event Is What Dreams Are Made Of
Just getting to drive a crazy exclusive supercar like the Ferrari LaFerrari, McLaren P1, or Porsche 918 Spyder is a dream for mere mortals.
And comparing them side-by-side? That's insanity, as even pre-fracus Top Gear couldn't pull off a shootout between the three thoroughbreds. But next year, London-based supercar club Auto Vivendi will offer the opportunity not only to drive them, but to take them each to 200 mph.
The setting will be Leicestershire’s Bruntingthorpe Proving Ground in the United Kingdom—home to a two-mile runaway—and as you'd expect, it won't be cheap.
Interested individuals will, however, get a break for opting in early. Before September 30th, tickets start at around $10,000, while exclusive 20-person VIP sessions will run $150,000. Drag your heels, and the cost will increase to $11,000 and $185,000, respectively.
Of course, that cost covers the support staff and safety gear, along with track-side refreshments. And to insure drivers are suitably warmed up before cracking the 200-mph barrier, there will be an appetizer session featuring the Ferrari 458 Italia, McLaren MP4-12C, and Porsche 911 Turbo S.
Dates haven't been finalized, but it wouldn't surprise us if at least a couple were convenient to next year's Goodwood Festival of Speed.
And comparing them side-by-side? That's insanity, as even pre-fracus Top Gear couldn't pull off a shootout between the three thoroughbreds. But next year, London-based supercar club Auto Vivendi will offer the opportunity not only to drive them, but to take them each to 200 mph.
The setting will be Leicestershire’s Bruntingthorpe Proving Ground in the United Kingdom—home to a two-mile runaway—and as you'd expect, it won't be cheap.
Interested individuals will, however, get a break for opting in early. Before September 30th, tickets start at around $10,000, while exclusive 20-person VIP sessions will run $150,000. Drag your heels, and the cost will increase to $11,000 and $185,000, respectively.
Of course, that cost covers the support staff and safety gear, along with track-side refreshments. And to insure drivers are suitably warmed up before cracking the 200-mph barrier, there will be an appetizer session featuring the Ferrari 458 Italia, McLaren MP4-12C, and Porsche 911 Turbo S.
Dates haven't been finalized, but it wouldn't surprise us if at least a couple were convenient to next year's Goodwood Festival of Speed.
