General Car Talk Discussion Thread
We used to have a MPV 4WD back in the day. It was a nice looking and featured van but damn it drove weird... the front felt disconnected from the back - so loose.
Folks have a Mazda CX9 now, that is pretty nice and solid feeling. Drives nice.
Folks have a Mazda CX9 now, that is pretty nice and solid feeling. Drives nice.
Who cares though? A car is a tool and for efficiently moving a lot of people and shit around, a minivan is second to none. The only difference between most three row "CUVs" today and a modern van is the sliding doors and a mild lift kit.
Indeed, though we'll likely get a new SEL, unless I find a screaming deal on a CPO or lightly used Limited EB.
We'll test drive both, but the price jump from a moderately equipped SEL to an EB Limited is likely more than we'll go for. Especially since we're both wanting to get new cars.
We'll test drive both, but the price jump from a moderately equipped SEL to an EB Limited is likely more than we'll go for. Especially since we're both wanting to get new cars.
The only difference between a Ford Flex and a minivan is the sliding doors. So...you're essentially driving a minivan.
Who cares though? A car is a tool and for efficiently moving a lot of people and shit around, a minivan is second to none. The only difference between most three row "CUVs" today and a modern van is the sliding doors and a mild lift kit.
Who cares though? A car is a tool and for efficiently moving a lot of people and shit around, a minivan is second to none. The only difference between most three row "CUVs" today and a modern van is the sliding doors and a mild lift kit.

Plenty of room, usable 3rd row, decent power from the non-EB V6, seems to handle well (I didn't drive it), especially since it sits a lot lower than the typical SUV.
It's classified as a crossover.. as it should. 
2015 Ford Flex | Impressive Space & Technology | Ford.com

2015 Ford Flex | Impressive Space & Technology | Ford.com
It's classified as a crossover.. as it should. 
2015 Ford Flex | Impressive Space & Technology | Ford.com

2015 Ford Flex | Impressive Space & Technology | Ford.com
I don't give a tofu crap about how it looks or drives as long as it's comfy for the family. It's just a daily anyway.
DD = drive between track days and/or canyon days.
I drive like a granny when DDing.
DD = drive between track days and/or canyon days.
I drive like a granny when DDing.
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A minivan is a big station wagon plus sliding doors.
It's classified as a crossover.. as it should. 
2015 Ford Flex | Impressive Space & Technology | Ford.com

2015 Ford Flex | Impressive Space & Technology | Ford.com
Still a van.
Minivans did suck to work on. I had to change the spark plugs in the rear bank and the coils and some other shit because of a crappy engine design that would make the van stall out (never was recalled). The intake manifold had to be taken out to get to it. With hand tools it took me all day. But shops wanted between $700-$1000 for labor.















