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I like the 335i.. I just don't feel the same way about BMW that I did many years ago. I get a discount on them, but I still wouldn't buy one new. Maybe it's media influenced as well..
Now an AM.. shiett.
well if 6mt and RWD with decent performance and handling are a must, then you really don't have any choices.
just be glad that BMW still care about people who buy 6mt.
Idk, I've I'm dropping between $50k and $70k on a car, I'd have a hard time passing up a 4c. I love that thing - I don't care if it has the wrong transmission.
Idk, I've I'm dropping between $50k and $70k on a car, I'd have a hard time passing up a 4c. I love that thing - I don't care if it has the wrong transmission.
I keep reading that it's a beautiful exterior hiding a tub of vomit
Based on what R&T said, it just made me want an M3 even more.
Because it is not made for everyone and soccer moms, it is made for people who love to drive!
If i just wanted to turn the steering wheel and the car will just turn at 70mph without drama, then i will go buy an appliance, i mean the TLX SHAWD.
Then why not a viper?
You also missed the point. Their point isn't my grandmother can't drive this.. their point is it went from being a tactical guided missile to an air-fuel bomb.
i can most definitely guarantee you that the M3 is faster than a Mustang GT in any direction regardless what the HP #s are. BTW: The new m3 is faster than the new Z28 in a straight line.
While there are some exceptions, but i would assume most of the people who buy 30K Mustang GT will not be able to afford a 80k M3 comfortably, otherwise you can bet they will get the M3. The key word is comfortably.
Can i afford a M3? yes... do i want to? No, because that means i have to sacrifice on other things and that also means i can't afford it comfortably.
However, double my salary and i will tell you, why would i wanna buy a Mustang GT when buying an M3 does little to nothing to my wallet.
I agree with all of that. All I'm saying is that in terms of value for money, the Mustang offers 95% of the M3, for $30k less.
Take that $30k and drop it into aftermarket mods for the Mustang and see what happens. I know that most people won't do this but it's still a valid point. Granted dropping $30k in mods for just about any car will make it stupid fast.
FWIW, If I had the budget to buy an M3, I probably still wouldn't buy one. Only because I can't justify spending $70k on a toy. That said, same applies to a Mustang.
Originally Posted by charliemike
There's no doubt it's an engineering marvel. And there's a reason it costs $70-80k. I don't think anyone would rationally compare even a loaded Mustang GT Performance Pack with a base model M3 or M4. They are simply different cars for different people.
But, in the echelon below the M3/M4 the Mustang GT might rule now. I haven't driven one yet. But everything I've read so far suggests it might be the best all-around sports car in America for ~$40K.
That is, until the Golf R gets here ...
It's the bang for your buck, same with the Corvette. Yes a 911 is a little faster and more comfortable and more prestigious but it's double the price. That's why you see a lot more Vettes out there than 911's.
Also, Golf R Wagon or go home. Waiting for Focus RS.
Originally Posted by oonowindoo
i think almost any car when pushed to the limit is more than 99% of the drivers can handle.
I can't wait till I get my TDI SE. Ordered on Sept 15, supposed to be built on Nov 17
Will probably get it the 2nd or 3rd week of December.
I'm tired of driving the Caravan.
damn.. just peeped the 2015 Charger R/T Scat Pack.. so much goodness for 40k. I think I'm going to buy it. Because I'll probably crash into a tree at 45 mph in the Hellcat.
Speaking of Mustangs, my friend is trading in his FR-S for a 2015. He placed the order yesterday - Ecoboost Premium with Performance Pack in Aspen White. It'll be ready in 8-12 weeks.
Speaking of Mustangs, my friend is trading in his FR-S for a 2015. He placed the order yesterday - Ecoboost Premium with Performance Pack in Aspen White. It'll be ready in 8-12 weeks.
viscerally.. I'd get a GT as well.. but for the coin and the output we've seen already.. tough to argue against the ecoboost. I know there are a few in the low 12's with a tune and minor mods.
We'll see if the slushbox can handle the power though.
viscerally.. I'd get a GT as well.. but for the coin and the output we've seen already.. tough to argue against the ecoboost. I know there are a few in the low 12's with a tune and minor mods.
We'll see if the slushbox can handle the power though.
Minor mods and a tune can get the GT into the 11s though.
11-12-2014, 07:00 PM
I guess I had teh tab open a little too long.. i was ughing to the ilx. 
