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#7361
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nope but I pinup exotics on my board at work..
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#7366
One on the right for me
I have a bunch of small scale models in my room and a few car posters. I was going to bring some models to the office but I figure if I'm ever fired its less shit to carry out.
#7367
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still a sucker for the C2 and C3...
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really nice lines and curves on the new Mustang. I think it's the best they've done in terms of fit and finish. It will look quite serious with appropriate wheel/tire and suspension mods.
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The rear of the Mustang has definitely grown on me.
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If only GM had the sense to make the C7 more like this than what they came up with it would be a no-brainer as the best car for the money in the world. Aesthetically and performance wise ... Unfortunately, they ran out of money at the rear of the car and did too much bubbafication of the vents to satisfy unsophisticated 'Muricans
Not, exactly like this. It's 4X the money (at least). But GM really missed an opportunity.
Not, exactly like this. It's 4X the money (at least). But GM really missed an opportunity.
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#7372
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I fking love C7.
#7373
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I'm sure that my lack of knowledge about how decisions are made regarding cost influences my opinion of those decisions. But I cannot help but think that someone somewhere either made a cost decision that handicapped the car or someone make a marketing/sales decision that handicapped the car.
I think the shape of the C7 is classic Corvette. And it's *so* close to being what I would consider the perfect American sports car. But something happened along the way that I'm not privy to and I ended up disappointed.
I'm going to school in January for my MBA. Maybe I'll get a better sense of why certain business decisions are made that will make me a little less judgemental and a little more forgiving of compromises.
I think the shape of the C7 is classic Corvette. And it's *so* close to being what I would consider the perfect American sports car. But something happened along the way that I'm not privy to and I ended up disappointed.
I'm going to school in January for my MBA. Maybe I'll get a better sense of why certain business decisions are made that will make me a little less judgemental and a little more forgiving of compromises.
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They got enough backlash about how they ripped off Ferrari styling with what they did, I have a feeling that setting out to actually make a car that looked like a F12 would not have been any better for them. The way I see it, they ran with the other manufacturer's cues they had (Ferrari, GT-R mostly) and then applied the Corvette touches to it so it didn't look TOO blatant. I do agree they could have done a better job on the rear, I think they should have stuck with round taillights. Anyways. I'd love to have a C7Z06 in my garage.
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They got enough backlash about how they ripped off Ferrari styling with what they did, I have a feeling that setting out to actually make a car that looked like a F12 would not have been any better for them. The way I see it, they ran with the other manufacturer's cues they had (Ferrari, GT-R mostly) and then applied the Corvette touches to it so it didn't look TOO blatant. I do agree they could have done a better job on the rear, I think they should have stuck with round taillights. Anyways. I'd love to have a C7Z06 in my garage.
I have to admit, a C7 Stingray two or three years from now for about $45K is going to be way too compelling to ignore if someone's looking for a sports car/GT.
#7376
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That's certainly true. I just meant more of the F/R layout ... I certainly wouldn't have wanted them to completely rip off the F12.
I have to admit, a C7 Stingray two or three years from now for about $45K is going to be way too compelling to ignore if someone's looking for a sports car/GT.
I have to admit, a C7 Stingray two or three years from now for about $45K is going to be way too compelling to ignore if someone's looking for a sports car/GT.
Also, have you spent some time with one? Not even driving, even being in one or around one (I have yet to drive one (but it will happen soon) - I spent some time as passenger). It's an incredibly polished car, compared to past generations.
#7377
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I'm not getting what you mean by this, care to elaborate a bit?
Also, have you spent some time with one? Not even driving, even being in one or around one (I have yet to drive one (but it will happen soon) - I spent some time as passenger). It's an incredibly polished car, compared to past generations.
Also, have you spent some time with one? Not even driving, even being in one or around one (I have yet to drive one (but it will happen soon) - I spent some time as passenger). It's an incredibly polished car, compared to past generations.
I'd put the Maserati Gran Turismo, C7, F12, Aston Martins, etc all in that classic F/R GT body shape. Long hoods, short rear decks, etc.
I haven't been in a C7 yet. I've seen video and pictures of the interior and it looks great. Especially when you spring for the upgraded leather interior. I have no issues at all with it for what the car costs. I just wish they had made some different decisions aesthetically on the exterior.
I wonder if anyone's taken off the black plastic venting/ducting covers and painted them body color yet. That might make things look better (or worse).
#7378
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oh wait, are you saying that you wish GM made more cars similar to the C7 F/R layout.
sorry still waking up lol
sorry still waking up lol
#7379
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No, sorry. What I was saying is that the F/R layout produces a classic outline. And I didn't want GM to make a F12 clone. That said, there are some things they could do within that shape that I might have liked more. It still would have allowed GM to make a unique Corvette but might have been a little less of what I think are the "not-so-good" parts of American preferences.
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No, sorry. What I was saying is that the F/R layout produces a classic outline. And I didn't want GM to make a F12 clone. That said, there are some things they could do within that shape that I might have liked more. It still would have allowed GM to make a unique Corvette but might have been a little less of what I think are the "not-so-good" parts of American preferences.
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well, when I first saw that white one in person, it took my breath away.
and the first look I got was from the rear
and the first look I got was from the rear
#7383
2024 Honda Civic Type R
$1,212 per month?
2012 335i convertible.
Is this shady?
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=3
2012 335i convertible.
Is this shady?
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=3
#7384
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42 x1212 is about $51K. I bet he put $4600 down on a $55k MSRP.
I don't know how many payments he has left but unless my math is wrong it's not horrible (given it's a 42 month loan).
That said, the whole "It won't show up on your credit report" is really suspicious. I don't know a bank that would allow an owner to transfer rights to the car and have someone else pay the bill without a new loan (or transfer of the old loan to the new owner).
Plus why would anyone stay on the hook for a loan after selling the car to someone else? And what if he files for bankruptcy and gets the car repossessed as part of the bankrutpcy ... Except I've been making $1200 payments on it?
TL;DR - This is bananas.
I don't know how many payments he has left but unless my math is wrong it's not horrible (given it's a 42 month loan).
That said, the whole "It won't show up on your credit report" is really suspicious. I don't know a bank that would allow an owner to transfer rights to the car and have someone else pay the bill without a new loan (or transfer of the old loan to the new owner).
Plus why would anyone stay on the hook for a loan after selling the car to someone else? And what if he files for bankruptcy and gets the car repossessed as part of the bankrutpcy ... Except I've been making $1200 payments on it?
TL;DR - This is bananas.
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#7385
2024 Honda Civic Type R
Even if the mileage may be "unknown", this still seems way too cheap.
1966 Ford Mustang Convertible.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=3
Would be such an awesome Sunday cruiser...
1966 Ford Mustang Convertible.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=3
Would be such an awesome Sunday cruiser...
#7387
One on the right for me
Yeah 12.5k for that is a very reasonable price. Hell I know the mileage of mine and I probably wouldn't price it too much higher (ok maybe 5-6k higher).
#7388
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$1,212 per month?
2012 335i convertible.
Is this shady?
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=3
2012 335i convertible.
Is this shady?
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=3
That car brand new is well over $60k. So you do the math.
#7389
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If only GM had the sense to make the C7 more like this than what they came up with it would be a no-brainer as the best car for the money in the world. Aesthetically and performance wise ... Unfortunately, they ran out of money at the rear of the car and did too much bubbafication of the vents to satisfy unsophisticated 'Muricans
That said a little CF or paint really helps the back end. Even though in person i think the back end works. Pictures just dont capture it as well.
#7390
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I think they make the "diffuser" too big. It should only be half the size of what it is right now. You know the proportion is off when you have to mount your license plate on the diffuser itself.
and the quad tips layout is something i often see on my neighbor's 1990 F150 with Nike logo on the back window.
and the quad tips layout is something i often see on my neighbor's 1990 F150 with Nike logo on the back window.
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#7391
I was never crazy about the C7 rear. I agree, the diffuser just looks too freaking big. It should have ended around where the strakes end, not halfway up the bumper.
Big swath of shiny black plastic =
Big swath of shiny black plastic =
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Got a chance to sit in a C7 today at the auto show. They only had automatic models unfortunately. It's not a bad place to spend time IMO. It's a little more than what you'd expect for the price.
#7393
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Honda develops new 3.5L Twin Turbo V6 race engine for the US Sports Car Championship series
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/02/22/h...rbo-v6-engine/
I have to lolz considering they won't do one in a road car.
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/02/22/h...rbo-v6-engine/
I have to lolz considering they won't do one in a road car.
#7394
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Just wish I was about the outside.
From Car and Driver:
#7395
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^ With what it can do...yeah, I could care less about the interior.
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Honda develops new 3.5L Twin Turbo V6 race engine for the US Sports Car Championship series
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/02/22/h...rbo-v6-engine/
I have to lolz considering they won't do one in a road car.
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/02/22/h...rbo-v6-engine/
I have to lolz considering they won't do one in a road car.
I love twin-turbos
#7398
Speaking of Vettes.
Pretty sure if my moving plans don't change by fall, I'm just going to scrap it altogether & go all in on a sports car.
Pretty sure if my moving plans don't change by fall, I'm just going to scrap it altogether & go all in on a sports car.
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Z06