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Old 04-23-2014, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
Was supposed to be at gR kickoff last year in LA, but I couldn't make it out in time. Ended up going to LA a week later
Was supposed to go to Dallas last year to see the cars at one of the stops. Got sick
Was supposed to go to Cleveland for the gR stop there this year on June 5, but my school ends on June 6
Old 04-24-2014, 12:43 AM
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Ford Explorer is on the Time's list..
They failed to mention that it drove like shit.
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I wouldn't take a news magazine's recommendation for a car too seriously anyway.

Unless maybe you're looking for an appliance for point A to point B.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Generally, Ferraris are going to do something.

Remember when the Dino was a joke and no one really wanted one?

Now they're $350-400k cars.

As long as Ferrari doesn't make 50,000 Poopdicks, those things will be worth some major coin one day. Assuming the world doesn't collapse and we're all chasing each other around with sticks again.
I would not say this is generally true. I would say it's only true for their special models. The Dino would be an exception. Look at how much an iconic car like the Testarossa goes for these days. 308, 328, 348, 360, arguably 430 as well.

I am sure RickTLS will correct me if needed.
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That just means you need to pick up a 355 now Srika.

Been really looking into the RC a lot lately & I'm pretty much sold on it besides test driving it. So, since I don't need to place a deposit, I went ahead and asked to have my name jotted down to order one. Can't actually do anything more than that since the NX has to come first, so it'll probably still be a couple more months til they start putting orders together.

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Old 04-24-2014, 03:04 PM
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just looked up a '87 Testarossa for fun, found one with 6000 miles on it for..... $69k.

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...a/1643325.html

Re: 355 - a close friend has one, and I've driven it couple times. That is enough for me really. From the stories he's told me about maintenance, yeah, pass. How about $1600 for exhaust heat shields. Yes, these are pieces of thin metal.
Old 04-24-2014, 03:32 PM
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Well, it's going to be like that for any Ferrari really. It may cost as much as a used Z06 but the maintenance fees have remained virtually unchanged. Good car to know how to work on though.
Old 04-24-2014, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S
Well, it's going to be like that for any Ferrari really. It may cost as much as a used Z06 but the maintenance fees have remained virtually unchanged. Good car to know how to work on though.
and that sucks. pretty sure my friend had those custom fabricated for way cheaper.





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Old 04-24-2014, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S
Well, it's going to be like that for any Ferrari really. It may cost as much as a used Z06 but the maintenance fees have remained virtually unchanged. Good car to know how to work on though.
If a person does their own work with all receipts, does that count?

Everything I've ever heard is that if you don't have Ferrari mechanics writing in the log books, it's a huge strike against the car.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
If a person does their own work with all receipts, does that count?

Everything I've ever heard is that if you don't have Ferrari mechanics writing in the log books, it's a huge strike against the car.
I'd hate to find out what Ferrari charges for their labor rate

Probably includes a free gallon-size container of KY. Per hour.
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Originally Posted by Costco
Probably includes a free gallon-size container of KY. Per hour.
I don't think that Ferrari gives anything for free
Old 04-24-2014, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
If a person does their own work with all receipts, does that count?

Everything I've ever heard is that if you don't have Ferrari mechanics writing in the log books, it's a huge strike against the car.
I can believe that. It's likely the same as Gas Monkey's F40; it's not Ferrari Certified with its restoration, thus it takes a huge hit against its value vs. a certified one.

Anything the factory blesses generally brings in buyers.
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I'd hate to find out what Ferrari charges for their labor rate

Probably includes a free gallon-size container of KY. Per hour.
Ferrari service, from what I've read, depends upon model, usage, & if engine service can be done with or without the engine being pulled.

Ferrari did introduce a 7-year free maintenance plan a couple years ago, but I have no idea what kind of details/clauses that allows.
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God, the 3-series Gran Turismo

It's bad, and they should feel bad!
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I saw that, apparently that type of vehicle is "hot" somewhere? I was reading how the BMW X6 is doing well somewhere and that's why they are doing the X4? I would put the Gran Turismos in the similar category
Old 04-25-2014, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
God, the 3-series Gran Turismo

It's bad, and they should feel bad!
Yep. By comparison, the 4 GC looks quite nice! Amazing what a few degrees of and a few inches difference in the angle of the roof rake makes...

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Old 04-25-2014, 10:37 AM
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Reddit has a hard-on for the new Z/28. Someone mentioned the HP/liter argument in a post, which I always found to be laughable. The only place that really matters is in motorsport. Luckily, people on reddit felt the same way. Rotary, pushrod, and turbo/SC engines completely skew the HP/liter discussion.

Forgot which track it was on, but they did a comparison between the GT-R with Track Package vs. a Z/28. That video was nuts! Couldn't believe how well the Camaro did. Next generation should be lighter and smaller.
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to lighter and smaller


the video was on Motor Trend Youtube...

3rd row

https://www.youtube.com/user/MotorTrend/videos
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http://www.carhoots.com/top-10s/10-b...ard-campaigns/

I think you guys will remember #1. lol. Loved seeing the Audi and BMW owners go back and forth over that
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Originally Posted by Costco
Forgot which track it was on, but they did a comparison between the GT-R with Track Package vs. a Z/28. That video was nuts! Couldn't believe how well the Camaro did. Next generation should be lighter and smaller.
I think it was Skip Barber's track in Atlanta?

I really want them to redo that when it's warm too.
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Apparently, Mercedes is single-handedly to blame for the collapse of grey-market vehicles.

Corporations gonna corporation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_im...#United_States

The Lamborghini Countach was one of the first grey market vehicles, and the Range Rover and Mercedes-Benz G-Class were initially available only through the grey market. Other vehicles that entered the US in small numbers via the grey market included the CX and Renault 5 Turbo. This avenue of vehicle availability was increasingly successful, especially in cases where the US model of a vehicle was less powerful and/or less well equipped than versions available in other markets. For example, Mercedes-Benz chose to offer only the lower-output 380SEL model in 1981 to Americans, some of whom wanted the much faster 500SEL available in the rest of the world. BMW had the same issue with their 745i Turbo. The grey market was successful enough that it ate significantly into the business of Mercedes-Benz of North America and their dealers. The corporation launched a successful million-dollar congressional lobbying effort to stop private importation of vehicles not officially intended for the U.S. market. An organisation called AICA (Automotive Importers Compliance Association) was formed by importers in California, Florida, New York, Texas, and elsewhere to counter some of these actions by Mercedes lobbyists, but the Motor Vehicle Safety Compliance Act was passed in 1988, effectively ending private import of grey-market vehicles to the United States. No evidence was presented that grey-import vehicles' safety performance differed significantly from that of US models, and there have been allegations of improper lobbying, but the issue has never been raised in court.

The grey market declined from 66,900 vehicles in 1985 to 300 vehicles in 1995.[5] It is no longer possible to import a non-US vehicle into the United States as a personal import, with four exceptions, none of which permits Americans to buy recent vehicles not officially available in the United States.
Choke on a dick, MB. I always wanted a Skyline...
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I think it was Skip Barber's track in Atlanta?

I really want them to redo that when it's warm too.
You know, I always figured it was the tires, but this really confirms it... Motor Trend does a comparison between the Z/28, 911 Turbo S, and GT-R Track Edition

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._r_comparison/

Trofeo R treadwear rating: 60

The Camaro is down on power, and heavier than the other two. But its tires are basically R compounds.
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Originally Posted by Costco
Apparently, Mercedes is single-handedly to blame for the collapse of grey-market vehicles.

Corporations gonna corporation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_im...#United_States

Choke on a dick, MB. I always wanted a Skyline...
Yup. It's a ridiculous law that should be changed.
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Thanks to the incoming hail storm, this is just 1 of 3 separate rows plus 2 rows of 2 on the sides. Plus body shop, and detail.


Somewhere around 202 inside & just under half our entire inventory.
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Keep those lot porters busy
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We are the porters, too. We handle the entire inventory.
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Holy cow. Did it end up hailing?
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Holy cow. Did it end up hailing?
The storm is supposed to start tonight & move through Sunday. I've seen some lightning in the past hour, but nothing that sounds like hail, thankfully.
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Wow. Kind of cool actually, seeing all those cars crammed indoors.

So are the rest of the cars just left outside to brave the storm?
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Wow. Kind of cool actually, seeing all those cars crammed indoors.

So are the rest of the cars just left outside to brave the storm?
The RXs and a few IS' will as far as new cars go. Nothing insurance won't cover in the end.
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Originally Posted by Costco
You know, I always figured it was the tires, but this really confirms it... Motor Trend does a comparison between the Z/28, 911 Turbo S, and GT-R Track Edition

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._r_comparison/

Trofeo R treadwear rating: 60

The Camaro is down on power, and heavier than the other two. But its tires are basically R compounds.
Don't tell SSFTSX about these tires....
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oh nice, looks like Horacio Pagani shoots a Sony RX10.

paging is300eater haha

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Sitting here tonight, if I had a spare $137k, here's how I'd build my M6 Gran Coupe:

San Marino Blue Metallic
Silverstone Full Merino Leather
Competition Package
Executive Package
Bang & Olufsen Sound System
BMW Carpeted Floor Mats

Total - $136,156.

How.I.Wish.
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For that money, man ... I would have to drive a Panamera GTS too to be sure.
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For that money, I'm in an Aston Martin Vantage.

But, for a 4-door car, the Gran Coupe is pretty darn hotness.
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am I the only one thinking, wow, that's a LOT of money for a BMW?
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Actually, I take that all back. Getting an RLX with upgraded tires.


Or an IS350.
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This guy has some cool art

http://society6.com/CaleFunderburk

I really like the Williams F1 car with the martini livery. I wanna poster and tshirt for that lol
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
This guy has some cool art

http://society6.com/CaleFunderburk

I really like the Williams F1 car with the martini livery. I wanna poster and tshirt for that lol
I don't follow F1, but I know the Martini livery so I assume it's this?

http://society6.com/CaleFunderburk/F...irt#11=49&4=84

Great selection of stuff on there, love it. I need to stop getting graphic tees though... I'm not 18 anymore. But sometimes they look so good!


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