Yumcha

No sir.

And on a serious note, that's the reason the C63 AMG was not my current car (versus the Infiniti). We thought long and hard about it but, with the winters up here, we just had to go CUV. Heck, if it wasn't so bad, I'd be in the Merc and probably saved $12K too since all-in, it was $63K CDN I recall.


I'll go back to a sedan as a next car but it'll still have to be AWD (i.e. 5-Series xDrive).

Yumcha

There are still days I do appreciate the extra bit of clearance though. So, I may just stick to CUV/SUV and go for a Cayenne.

Dunno.

Costco

Aren't all new AMGs now 4Matic, standard? I thought I remember hearing that somewhere. Maybe it was just the CLA. And something about putting all the torque to the ground instead of releasing rubber into the atmosphere by means of vaporization.

Majofo

4Matic E63 Wagon...

fsttyms1

c63amg vs fx50 in winter.......... id bet the c63 would go thru the snow better

00TL-P3.2

I think it's going that way. The S, CLS, CLA & E AMGs are AWD. I can't recall if the AMG SUVs are all AWD or not. I know the G is.

CLtotheTL32

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Someone say wagon?

RPhilMan1

The WRX was just barely a bit quicker 0-60 because of the five-speed transmission. It would hit 60mph in 2nd gear whereas the STi had to shift to third to hit 60mph.

Now the WRX is pretty nice with the 6MT. I like those numbers. But I don't think I could live with the design. That's too bad because I've always loved the STi.

Yumcha

Not quite the same price as a C63...!

Aman

Maybe consider a CPO example when it's time to look?

Majofo

Majofo

A 1 year old one is..

ttribe

Uhhh, probably not as funny given the little Cha just got out of surgery this last week for open heart surgery...not to put a damper on the Pick-On-Yummy-Fest.

Majofo

You know things like this are probably best by PM. And no one is picking on Yummy, how is saying a 1 year old E63 is the same price as a new C63 picking on him?

A little tact, maybe some comprehension.

Majofo

Sorry to hear that Yummy

I know little cha is a trooper though!

Sending good vibes

ttribe

Okay...wasn't meant to come across like that. I totally misunderstood what you meant by the "1-year old" comment. In jest, I've had it suggested the way out of my financial issues was to sell or otherwise divest myself of one of my three kids. I thought that was in that vein. I see now I was wrong.

I was picking on Yummy earlier too...I thought it was kind of the board pass-time. Sorry.

Majofo

I thought that's why you came from left field.. okay.. back to cars.

Mmm.. an E63 4Matic Pussy Wagon.

Majofo

Not a Pussy Wagen..

srika

Yumcha

It's okay, T.

I only wrote it in the SWEDT thread finally because the ordeal is over. I've been carrying it around for awhile now. No biggie. And Maj and I are cool.

Majofo

Only $114k nicely equipped. So.. $60k with 5k miles.

Randy!

Yumcha

Nah, I didn't take it that way at all.


And the E63 would not have been in our books as we were leaning towards new.








And everyone picks on me.

I get no respeck.

Yumcha

Mercedes didn't issue the C63 Estate for North America, correct?

Majofo

Yep..

I've only seen it in the wild on the track for F1.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

Shut up and get a S4 or S6.

Do you guys get S4/S6 Avant in Arctic Circle?

Majofo

Randy’s Impressions (on E63 4Matic S Wagon):

On the chassis setup: I would love to take some of that predictability and compliance and build it into the Viper, and even the SLS. Believe it or not, yeah. Because it helps it rotate in. If you don’t do that, then it can be a little lazy coming into the apex.

On the driveline: You know what, I did not notice all-wheel drive. Except for the fact that it doesn’t loosen up under power. It still doesn’t. Or not very darn much. In fact, what I like best about the car was tossing it in and getting the tail coming out, and then going to the power, and it just smoothly drives off the corner putting all that torque down. It’s not obviously an all-wheel-drive car.

On the engine: It has lots of torque, lots of power. I don’t notice any lag, not on the racetrack, anyway. Glorious exhaust note. Really beautiful sound.
2014 Mercedes Benz E63 AMG S Model 4Matic Wagon Front Three Quarter

On the handling: Fair amount of roll and a fair amount of understeer. It really likes that toss. Even better, toss and trail-brake to get the tail to move, because when it does, it’s just beautiful. It needs to be driven like a rally car.

On the transmission: Yeah, turning in for that last corner, I had to make sure I had second. Because it doesn’t want to go to second. The ratios from second to third and third to fourth are pretty wide, which, for me, was a disappointment. You’ve got seven gears. You know, close up the lower ones -- bing, bing, bing, bing.

Overall: Best wagon ever. Love it. Really powerful. Handles well. More understeer than I like.

Yumcha

We do. But, the wife does NOT like wagons. I tried.



So, it started out with the C63 as my #1 choice but after thinking it through and taking into consideration the weather, we nuked that idea and stuck with SUV/CUV...XC60, X5, and the FX were our finalists.

I do lament that the Evoque and current-look Cayenne were not available.

Yumcha

The E63 seems to fly under the radar a bit in the wagon chatter, hey? Mostly it is Audi. But, I'd rock the Merc just to be different.

Yumcha

Stupid Mercedes.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

It better be good with $110k pricing tag.

That said, I love E63 AMG 4Matic Wagon.

Majofo

indeed..

Yumcha

I think the C63 Estate looks better than the sister E63...

Yumcha

I mean, both sisters are hot...just that I prefer the look of the C more.

charliemike

I'd still take the RS6 over the E63 AMG S or is it E63 S AMG?

Yumcha

Nice segue...here's the battle of the titans: E63 AMG Estate vs. RS6...

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/E63...RS6-2013-07-08

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

Huh? E63 Wagon looks so much better than C63 Wagon.

Yummy has weird taste.

Yumcha

You have no credibility for taste. You passed up an M3.











But, seriously, I think the C63 looks better proportionally.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

It looks good from the front, but the back just looks off. Too small I should say?

I don't know both are good looking wagons. I love wagons.

CLtotheTL32

iTrader: (3)

RS6 Avant > *



I like the AMG wagons but they look so plain compared to this beast:



BUT, the RS6 isn't available in the US...and it starts at $128k

Majofo

You guys are crazy.. I'd fuck all of them in each tailpipe and twice down the fuel mouth. Including CTS Vagon.