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Mizouse 04-19-2012 09:26 AM

For those of you that care.... Dxomark gave the 5D3 a score of 81.

ChodTheWacko 04-19-2012 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 13707898)
potential light leak issue on the 5dIII bodies

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/04...dii-light-leak

Almost every thread of people talking about it has people checking exposure settings with their lens caps on. Which seems completely pointless to me.

Synth, I'd be very interested in hearing your thoughts regarding going to the 5dIII from the 7d I believe.

I'm probably going to end up with one sooner rather than later.
Kinda waiting to get one from out of state, since sales tax is brutal.

- Frank

Sarlacc 04-19-2012 10:31 PM

Not the most efficient way to check...you basically need to take into the dark and shine a bright light into the seems.

PS: You're back!

Mizouse 04-23-2012 09:38 PM

So canon says that if you think it will be an issue, they will let you send in your camera to take a look.


To Users of the Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR Camera
Concerning the EOS 5D Mark III digital SLR camera, when the LCD panel illuminates in extremely dark environments, the displayed exposure value may change. Canon has concluded the investigation of this phenomenon, and this announcement informs you of our findings as described below.

Phenomenon
In extremely dark environments, if the LCD panel illuminates, the displayed exposure value may change. However, based on the results of extensive testing this change in exposure value will not noticeably affect the captured image.

Affected Product
Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR Camera
*Products whose sixth digit in the serial number is 1 or 2 are affected.
For example, “xxxxx1xxxxxx” or “xxxxx2xxxxxx” ([x] represents any optional number.)

Support
Under almost all shooting conditions (including dark environments) this phenomenon will not affect your captured images. However, if you would like Canon to inspect your camera, we will provide this service free of charge upon request beginning in mid-May. Please contact Canon using the information below to request service.

This information is for residents of the United States and Puerto Rico only. If you do not reside in the USA or Puerto Rico, please contact the Canon Customer Support Center in your region.

Please register theEOS 5D Mark III. By registering, we will be able to notify you via email when service updates are available. If you already registered, please ensure you are opted-in to receive the notification.


synth19 04-25-2012 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by ChodTheWacko (Post 13716331)
Almost every thread of people talking about it has people checking exposure settings with their lens caps on. Which seems completely pointless to me.

Synth, I'd be very interested in hearing your thoughts regarding going to the 5dIII from the 7d I believe.

I'm probably going to end up with one sooner rather than later.
Kinda waiting to get one from out of state, since sales tax is brutal.

- Frank


Frank,

I love the 5d3 compared to the 7d. The biggest improvement is the IQ, colors seem much more vibrant, and of course usable pics @ mid-high ISO levels. The 7d is still a fine camera, but I probably won't use it much unless I shoot for sports/action and need the 70-200 for reach.

ChodTheWacko 05-05-2012 12:50 AM


Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 13716373)
Not the most efficient way to check...you basically need to take into the dark and shine a bright light into the seems.

PS: You're back!

Ha ha - I pop in every now and then and peek around.
Haven't really had anything to say in a while though!

- Frank

ChodTheWacko 05-13-2012 10:57 PM

Well, I couldn't resist and I got the 5d3.

Had two days of shooting with it so far, having previously owned a 7d.

Things I love in descending order:
1) Higher ISOs. I'm roughly guessing 2 stops over the 7d. So ISO 25600 looks roughly what the 6400 did on the 7d. You have 104,000 ISO, but it looks like the god of M&Ms swallowed and vomited the picture. Might be ok during day, but not night pictures.

2) It autofocuses like a beast. I can actually do AI servo now, which is a minor miracle for me. I can kinda do it with the 7d, but I can't really trust it. If I'm lucky, one out of three, maybe 1 of 4. Now In simple servo stuff I'm getting maybe 80-90% in focus shots on easy servo stuff (planes, cars, etc) with my F4 lens.

3) My lenses feel 'right' now.
The 24-104 is now a very nice range, having some wide angle action now, versus being slighly over '1x' zoom which always bugged me a bit.
The 70-200 is no longer annoyingly too close at the wide end. With the 7d even moderately close shots were impossible, and I'd always have to run -way- back to shoot anyone (felt like).


Lesser things:
1) Yay, mode lock button. I walk around with the camera around my shoulder a lot, and on my 7d I'm always bumping the mode dial out of place.
2) Larger viewfinder is quite lovely.
3) I love the option to instantly zoom 100% on the focus point. Makes checking focus much quicker.
4) I quite like the 'silent' mode. It's about half volume of regular mode, but the sound is much less offensive. Instead of 'clack clack' it's a softer 'thump thump'. It blends in much easier with background noise.

Things I don't like and will have to get used to:
1) Viewfinder text is a lot smaller than it was with the 7d.
2) I kinda miss having internal flash.
3) I'm getting used to the new zoom mechanism - wish I could easily go between focus point zoom/100% view/ view with histogram. Feels a bit klunky since instead of two buttons for 'zoom in/out' you now have the button/wheel combo.
4) I wish auto shutter speed could be based on focal length.
5) Average RAW size is averaging about 31 meg now. Ugh.

- Frank

srika 05-13-2012 11:00 PM

congrats! thanks for the rundown.

I hope I can join you blokes sometime this year. :bored:

Mizouse 05-21-2012 10:08 AM

http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-conten...5/IMG_0762.jpg

http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-conten...5/IMG_0759.jpg

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I like it, too bad it doesn't look like it will take a 1 series battery.

ChodTheWacko 05-30-2012 02:07 AM

I'm getting owned a fair amount by the reduced depth of field now.
It's nice how it gives your subject more 'pop' but you really have to be careful where you focus.

For example, I have various F2.8 shots where the front brim of the hat is in focus, and the person's face is already starting to get meh. I actually think most casual shooters want a ton of depth of field and that would be a big turn off for some people.

I read a bunch of rave reviews about using 'back button focus' so I'm playing with it.

The idea is you have set a button on the back to handle focus, and the shutter is just doing exposure (and the shot). I do like the idea, if you are shooting say, though some leaves, to first lock focus, and then shoot away without risking it refocusing on the leaves.

Another thing I'm playing with: The depth of field preview button was moved, so it's on the 'shooting' hand side. One custom setting is to set it to swap between servo and 'one shot', which is interesting.

So basically you could leave your camera in 'one shot', and then if your subject starts to take a walk you just mash the doF button to track them. Sounds good in theory, but mixed with back button focus, it's it's a real hand stretch to hold down both the DoF preview and one of the buttons on the back of the camera. I'm not sold on this, but I might use it since I have big hands.

Servo is fantastic on this camera - enough that I'm half tempted to just leave it in servo full time, and use the DoF button to switch back to one shot every now and then.

Have to experiment more and find something I'm comfortable with.

- Frank

Mizouse 06-08-2012 12:16 AM


Canon unveils the new EOS 650D – get intouch with your creative side

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London, UK, 8 June 2012 – Canon today launches the EOS 650D – a new, easy-to-use Digital SLR (DSLR) that offers high image quality and simple touch-screen operation, allowing anyone to capture beautiful images and Full HD movies. Ideal for photography beginners, the EOS 650D combines intelligent automatic shooting modes with a range of advanced features – making it easy-to-use today, with a full range of manual modes to explore tomorrow.

The EOS 650D is the first-ever EOS to feature a dual AF system, which ensures exceptional detail in stills and continuous autofocus tracking when shooting movies. At the camera's heart is an 18 megapixel (MP) Hybrid CMOS sensor and powerful DIGIC 5 processing, enabling the capture of sharp, full resolution images at up to 5 frames per second (fps). A Vari-angle capacitive touch-screen also makes camera operation quick and easy, providing instant access to an extensive range of settings and scene modes.

Outstanding quality in all conditions

The EOS 650D offers outstanding image quality and performance. Its newly-developed 18MP APS-C Hybrid CMOS sensor provides super-fine resolution, capturing poster-sized images that are rich in colour and detail. Ideal for shooting in low light without flash, the camera features a native 100-12,800 ISO range, allowing the capture of naturallooking shots with minimal noise, while an expanded ISO 25,600 range also offers the ability to shoot in more extreme low-light conditions.

The EOS 650D is the first entry-level EOS to be powered by Canon DIGIC 5 processing, offering greater speed, responsiveness and advanced colour rendition. DIGIC 5's 14-bit image processing provides beautiful and subtle transitions between colour tones, such as those of an evening sky, and its vastly-increased power also makes the camera ideal for capturing fast-moving action such as football or other sports.

The new dual AF system makes it easy to capture sharply-focused shots of all subjects, whether capturing stills or movies. A superior 9-point all cross-type AF system provides exceptional performance during stills shooting, offering precision accuracy when capturing sports, action and wildlife. Additionally, a new Hybrid AF System offers continuous autofocusing during movie recording, and when shooting in Live View1 mode.

Touch control and Vari-angle flexibility

Getting the perfect shot has never been easier thanks to the new 7.7cm (3.0") Vari-angle Clear View LCD II Touch screen. Featuring capacitive technology, the screen is highly responsive and supports a variety of multi-touch gestures, such as pinching and swiping – making it easy to access shooting modes, alter settings and even capture a shot using the screen alone.

Touch control adds a different dimension to Live View shooting. You can select AF points, track faces and objects, and fine-tune image settings via the camera's Quick Control screen. Navigation is instant and intuitive, while pinch-zooming in playback provides a great way to check the finer details of a shot. The Vari-angle hinge allows the screen to be angled and tilted to suit virtually any situation, while a super-sharp 1,040k-dot resolution ensures every detail is clearly displayed.

EOS Movie: Enhanced with Continuous AF

The EOS 650D makes it easy for anyone to shoot Full HD (1920x1080p) videos. Thanks to Hybrid AF, users can focus exclusively on story-telling while the camera continuously tracks the subject. New EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM and EF 40mm f/2.8 STM lenses are also ideal for shooting videos, utilising a virtually-silent stepper motor to ensure movies are smoother and clearer than ever.

With Video Snapshot mode, anyone can create fun, fast-paced videos with a professionally-edited feel. Snapshots can be recorded in two, four, or eight second segments, and then combined or reordered in-camera ahead of playback. An integrated mini-HDMI port also makes it easy to share the results on any HDTV.

Explore with EOS

Two brand new shooting modes located on the mode dial help beginners to shoot confidently in difficult lighting conditions. HDR Backlight Control tackles tricky, brightly-backlit scenes by capturing three different exposures – under, correctly, and over-exposed – and combining them into one HDR image displaying both highlight and shadow detail. Handheld Night Scene, meanwhile, makes it easier to capture beautiful low-light evening shots with no tripod, rapidly shooting four different images before combining them into one detailed, blur-free picture.

The camera's range of shooting modes also allows you to explore the boundaries of your creativity. Basic+ allows you to go beyond basic automatic settings, with a range of presets you can use to dramatically and instantly alter the mood of a shot. Canon's fun range of Creative Filters can now be applied to images using the Touch-screen, with new 'Art Bold Effect' and 'Water Painting Effect' offering more ways to apply a creative twist to a shot. If you simply want to point and shoot, Scene Intelligent Auto mode does the work for you – analysing the scene and automatically selecting the best settings, so you can take great shots out of the box.

The EOS system – freedom to explore

As part of Canon's EOS system, the EOS 650D is compatible with the world's most comprehensive selection of lenses and accessories. Over 60 EF lenses cover everything from wide-angle and macro to extreme telephoto, and countless accessories provide the tools to meet virtually any creative challenge.

EOS 650D – key features

18 MP APS-C Hybrid CMOS sensor
Full-HD movies with manual controls and continuous AF
5 fps continuous shooting
Vari-angle Clear View LCD II Touch screen
ISO 100-12,800 sensitivity, extendable to ISO 25,600
9-point wide-area AF
Integrated Speedlite Transmitter
1 AF in Live View and Movies subject to use with Canon stepping motor (STM) lenses

Canon Rebel T4i / EOS 650D specifications

Price
MSRP $849.99/€899 body only, $949.99/€999 with 18-55mm IS II, $1199/€1,249 with 18-135mm IS STM
Body type
Body type Compact SLR
Body material Stainless Steel and polycarbonate resin with glass fibre
Sensor
Max resolution 5184 x 3456
Other resolutions 5184 x 2912, 4608 x 3456,3456 x 3456, 3456 x 2304, 3456 x 1944, 3072 x 2304, 2592 x 1728, 2592 x 1456, 2304 x 1728, 2304 x 2304, 1920 x 1280, 1920 x 1080, 1728 x 1728, 1696 x 1280, 1280 x 1280, 720 x 480, 720 x 400, 640 x 480, 480 x 480
Image ratio w:h 1:1, 4:3, 3:2, 16:9
Effective pixels 18.0 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors 18.5 megapixels
Sensor size APS-C (22.3 x 14.9 mm)
Sensor type CMOS
Processor Digic 5
Color space sRGB,Adobe RGB
Color filter array RGB Color Filter Array
Image
ISO Auto, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400, 12800 (25600 with boost)
White balance presets 6
Custom white balance Yes (1)
Image stabilization No
Uncompressed format RAW
JPEG quality levels Fine, Normal
File format
JPEG: Fine, Normal (Exif 2.3 compliant)
Design rule for Camera File system (2.0),
RAW: 14bit RAW, M-RAW, S-RAW
Digital Print Order Format [DPOF] Version 1.1 compliant
Optics & Focus
Autofocus
Contrast Detect (sensor)
Phase Detect
Multi-area
Selective single-point
Single
Continuous
Face Detection
Live View
Autofocus assist lamp by optional dedicated Speedlite
Digital zoom No
Manual focus Yes
Number of focus points 9
Lens mount Canon EF/EF-S mount
Focal length multiplier 1.6×
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCD Fully articulated
Screen size 3"
Screen dots 1,040,000
Touch screen Yes
Screen type Clear View II TFT LCD
Live view Yes
Viewfinder type Optical (pentamirror)
Viewfinder coverage 95 %
Viewfinder magnification 0.85×
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed 30 sec
Maximum shutter speed 1/4000 sec
Exposure modes
Program AE
Shutter priority AE
Aperture priority AE
Manual
Scene Intelligent Auto
No Flash
Creative Auto
Portrait
Landscape
Close-up
Sports
Night Portrait
Handheld Night Scene
HDR Backlight Control
Built-in flash Yes (Pop-up)
Flash range 13 m
External flash Yes (Hot-shoe, Wireless plus Sync connector)
Flash modes Auto, On, Off, Red-eye
Flash X sync speed 1/200 sec
Drive modes
Single
Continuous
Self timer (2s, 10s+remote, 10s + continuous shots 2-10)
Continuous drive Yes (5 fps)
Self-timer Yes (2s, 10s+remote, 10s + continuous shots 2-10))
Metering modes
Multi
Center-weighted
Spot
Partial
Exposure compensation ±5 EV (at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
AE Bracketing ±2 (3 frames at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
WB Bracketing Yes (3 frames in either blue/amber or magenta/green axis)
Videography features
Format
H.264
Motion JPEG
Microphone Stereo
Speaker Mono
Resolutions 1920 x 1080 (30, 25, 24 fps), 1280 x 720 (60, 50 fps), 640 x 480 (60, 50 fps)
Storage
Storage types SD/SDHC/SDXC
Storage included None
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMI Yes (HDMI mini)
Wireless EyeFi
Remote control Yes (E3 connector, InfraRed)
Physical
Environmentally sealed No
Battery Battery Pack
Battery description Lithium-Ion LP-E8 rechargeable battery & charger
Battery Life (CIPA) 440
Weight (inc. batteries) 575 g (1.27 lb / 20.28 oz)
Dimensions 133 x 100 x 79 mm (5.24 x 3.94 x 3.11")
Other features
Orientation sensor Yes
Timelapse recording Yes (by USB cable and PC)
GPS None
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Mizouse 06-08-2012 12:17 AM


Compact, versatile and powerful - introducing the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM and EF 40mm f/2.8 STM


London, UK, 8 June 2012 – Canon today unveils two new compact, lightweight lenses - the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM and EF 40mm f/2.8 STM. Showcasing a number of new features, including continuous autofocus in Movie mode, both models offer superior image quality and enhanced flexibility to enable photographers of all skill levels to capture both stills and movies of practically any subject.

Fast, accurate autofocus for film-makers and photographers

As well as offering full-time manual focus controls when shooting stills, the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM and EF 40mm f/2.8 STM are both also ideal for aspiring movie makers, allowing them to focus more accurately during shooting. The perfect companion lenses to the new EOS 650D, both models feature new stepper motor technology (STM), enabling fast, continuous focus when recording moving subjects - ensuring movies will be smoother and clearer than ever before.

Offering enhanced AF performance with high-speed, high-precision focusing, the two new lenses make it easy for photographers to capture more spontaneous shots, with exceptional detail and clarity. This is particularly useful for documentary, action or travel photography. With a minimum focusing distance of 0.39m and 0.3m respectively, the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM and EF 40mm f/2.8 STM allow you to get even closer to the action whilst keeping the subject in perfect focus.

EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM – versatile, high-performance zoom


Offering a focal range of 18–135mm, the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM has been created to offer photographers a compact, versatile zoom lens which can be used to capture a variety of subjects, from portraits to landscapes and action shots. Ensuring high-quality stills at slow shutter speeds, the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM features an intelligent optical Image Stabilizer which offers a 4-stop advantage over non-IS models. The lens will also sense whether the photographer is shooting normally or panning, engaging the most appropriate IS mode to capture the best possible image. When shooting movies, Dynamic IS automatically engages, countering any shake caused by the videographer's movement to produce smooth, stable footage.

For subtle background blur when exploring shallow depths of field in stills and movies, the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM features a circular aperture with an Electro Magnetic Diaphragm (EMD) which permits highly-accurate control over aperture settings. High image quality is also assured throughout the zoom range thanks to four groups of lens elements including one Ultra-low Dispersion (UD) and one Precision Molded Optics (PMo) element to counter chromatic aberration. Canon's optimised Super spectra coatings on each lens element also reduce ghosting and flare, ensuring images require minimal post-processing.

EF 40mm f/2.8 STM – super-slim, high image quality

The EF 40mm f/2.8 STM is Canon's first EF pancake lens with a fixed focal length of 40mm and wide f/2.8 aperture, making it ideal for photographers who want a versatile, compact and lightweight lens for portrait, reportage, travel or landscape situations. Precision control over the circular, seven-blade aperture is enabled by the EMD, producing a beautiful bokeh effect and an aspheric lens with Super spectra coatings ensures optimal image quality from the centre of the lens to the periphery for stunning shots of practically any subject.

EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM – key features

Versatile 18-135mm zoom range – perfect for travel
Smooth, quiet STM focusing when shooting movies on compatible cameras
Dynamic Image Stabilizer for smooth movie footage
Fast autofocus with full-time manual override
Minimum focusing distance of 0.39m
EF 40mm f/2.8 STM – key features

Portable pancake design
Smooth, quiet STM focusing when shooting movies on compatible cameras
Fast f/2.8 maximum aperture for low-light shooting
Close focus to 0.3m
Fast, quiet AF for pin-sharp results
Great image quality right across the frame
Canon EF-S 18-135mmm F3.5-5.6 IS STM specifications

Principal specifications
Lens type Zoom lens
Max Format size APS-C / DX
Focal length 18 – 135 mm
Image stabilisation Yes (4 stops)
Lens mount Canon EF-S
Aperture
Maximum aperture F3.5 - F5.6
Minimum aperture F22.0 - F38.0
Aperture ring No
Number of diaphragm blades 7
Aperture notes 6-blade circular aperture
Optics
Elements 16
Groups 12
Special elements / coatings Super Spectra coatings
Focus
Minimum focus 0.39 m (15.35")
Maximum magnification 0.28 x
Autofocus Yes
Motor type Stepper motor
Full time manual Yes
Focus method Internal
Distance scale No
DoF scale No
Physical
Weight 480 g (1.06 lb)
Diameter 77 mm (3.03")
Length 96 mm (3.78")
Materials Plastic barrel, metal mount
Sealing No
Colour Black
Zoom method Rotary (internal)
Power zoom No
Zoom lock No
Filter thread 67 mm
Hood supplied No
Hood product code EW-73B
Tripod collar No
Optional accessories Soft Case LP1116
Canon EF 40mm STM specifications

Principal specifications
Lens type Prime lens
Max Format size 35mm FF
Focal length 40 mm
Image stabilisation No
Lens mount Canon EF
Aperture
Maximum aperture F2.8
Minimum aperture F22.0
Aperture ring No
Number of diaphragm blades 7
Optics
Elements 6
Groups 4
Focus
Minimum focus 0.30 m (11.81")
Maximum magnification 0.18 x
Autofocus Yes
Motor type Stepper motor
Full time manual Yes
Focus method Internal
Distance scale No
DoF scale No
Physical
Weight 130 g (0.29 lb)
Diameter 68 mm (2.68")
Length 27 mm (1.06")
Sealing No
Colour Black
Filter thread 52 mm
Tripod collar No
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Mizouse 06-08-2012 12:26 AM

awww how cute..

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Mizouse 06-08-2012 12:29 AM

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/can...650d-rebel-t4i

hands on preview

asianspec 06-08-2012 12:30 AM

hmmm full time auto focus on video> not bad,

Im interested how that 40mm would be.

Mizouse 06-08-2012 12:35 AM

its full time with phase-detect AF

Steven Bell 06-08-2012 12:49 AM

Adorama is reporting that you can pre-order the Canon T4i now for a July 2012 delivery.


http://www.adorama.com/ALC/News.aspx...ail060812Canon

srika 06-08-2012 10:40 AM

nice on the full-time video AF!

jupitersolo 06-24-2012 01:27 PM

So Canon cripples the 5D3? :ponder:


Why you shouldn't put an SD card into your Canon 5D Mark III
http://jeffcable.blogspot.com/2012/0...d-in-your.html

dom 06-28-2012 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by jupitersolo (Post 13862518)
So Canon cripples the 5D3? :ponder:



http://jeffcable.blogspot.com/2012/0...d-in-your.html

Firmware Update 2.0.X should fix that. :tongue:

Some updates to the 7D for those of you who have one.

http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/s...EOS7D_firmware

srika 06-28-2012 12:25 PM

I think I will be using "Maximum Limit for Auto ISO"! nice. I'll set it to something like 2000. :ponder:

jupitersolo 06-28-2012 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by dom (Post 13871707)
Firmware Update 2.0.X should fix that. :tongue:

Some updates to the 7D for those of you who have one.

http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/s...EOS7D_firmware

Did Sony buy Canon? Why put it out right to start with, when firmware will do? :tomato: :biggrin:

srika 06-28-2012 01:01 PM

yes, because Canon is the only company that does firmware updates.

http://support.nikonusa.com/app/answ...chor-DSLR-3800

D800 already has firmware update....

:whyme:

Sarlacc 06-28-2012 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by srika (Post 13871836)
yes, because Canon is the only company that does firmware updates.

http://support.nikonusa.com/app/answ...chor-DSLR-3800

D800 already has firmware update....

:whyme:

Well...in fairness...and this could all change in the future...Nikon's update was to address issues...Canon, at least with the 7D update (that is being seen as very unusual) is adding functionality.

Either way...yes all companies are doing, and honestly I wish they would take more advantage of it.

srika 06-28-2012 01:34 PM

oh I'm not the one knocking firmware updates. I'm all for it. :thumbsup:

Remember there was a day in the not too distant past when you would buy an electronic product and that's it, you're stuck, there's no upgrade ability of any sort. And products came out with plenty of glitches and problems, you just had to live with it.

The same thing happened with console video games, for instance. How you can add new cars and tracks etc. You could never do that before, after buying a game. That's progress.

jupitersolo 06-28-2012 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by srika (Post 13871933)
oh I'm not the one knocking firmware updates. I'm all for it. :thumbsup:

Remember there was a day in the not too distant past when you would buy an electronic product and that's it, you're stuck, there's no upgrade ability of any sort. And products came out with plenty of glitches and problems, you just had to live with it.

The same thing happened with console video games, for instance. How you can add new cars and tracks etc. You could never do that before, after buying a game. That's progress.

I also remember a day when companies would put out product that works from the start. Doing upgrades that you have to pay for to enjoy more of the game, it not a good example.

It's called putting out shit before it's ready and fix it on the fly. If you're good with, you're going to make companies happy just handing over money for items that don't work/half ass to start with.

srika 06-28-2012 01:52 PM

talking about free upgrades and downloads for the games.

regarding your second statement, today's electronics are so complicated that it's going to be next to impossible to make a 100% perfect product. do you disagree?

jupitersolo 06-28-2012 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by srika (Post 13871996)
talking about free upgrades and downloads for the games.

regarding your second statement, today's electronics are so complicated that it's going to be next to impossible to make a 100% perfect product. do you disagree?

I know what you are talking about with games.



OK, so they have broken you as a consumer to be OK with product sold that doesn't work up to what they say it'll do. :shrug:

srika 06-28-2012 02:18 PM

maybe its because I'm in the IT field, whatwith constantly issuing updates and patches and new versions and etc. etc. etc it seems pretty commonplace to me that nothing is going to be perfect the first time around.

jupitersolo 06-28-2012 02:20 PM

I'm talking about consumer products that have no outside factors other than what the company makes to start with.

Sarlacc 06-28-2012 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by jupitersolo (Post 13871960)
I also remember a day when companies would put out product that works from the start. Doing upgrades that you have to pay for to enjoy more of the game, it not a good example.

It's called putting out shit before it's ready and fix it on the fly. If you're good with, you're going to make companies happy just handing over money for items that don't work/half ass to start with.

Everything is so consumer driven...its a good thing that if a group say "hey we want/need you reproduce to do THIS"

And the company says, we didn't think of that, thats a good idea....ok the hardware can in fact support that, here you go, download this and you have what you asked for.

jupitersolo 06-28-2012 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 13872093)
Everything is so consumer driven...its a good thing that if a group say "hey we want/need you reproduce to do THIS"

And the company says, we didn't think of that, thats a good idea....ok the hardware can in fact support that, here you go, download this and you have what you asked for.

That I'm OK, if they can add something to it afterwards that benefits the consumer. What I'm still pissed off about is frimware'ng to fix something that should have been "fixed" before it was push to retail.

Sarlacc 06-28-2012 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by jupitersolo (Post 13872130)
That I'm OK, if they can add something to it afterwards that benefits the consumer. What I'm still pissed off about is frimware'ng to fix something that should have been "fixed" before it was push to retail.

Shit happens...at least the majority of it can be fixed.

jupitersolo 06-28-2012 02:41 PM

That's what most have settled for :shrug:

Sarlacc 06-28-2012 02:51 PM

What choice to people have when everything is run by computers?

Computers are imperfect, period. They have glitches and errors and sometimes outright fail.

You don't think automobiles don't have firmware updates for their ECUs? The dealers don't really tell you about them...they just update them when your car is in for service.

If we want to go back to simpler times where things are more mechanical, we don't have to settle for anything...and our shit will last longer, too.

jupitersolo 06-28-2012 03:17 PM

Computer are not imperfect, what is put into them is. The rush to get them in retail is what is imperfect. What humans say they can do, but don't program them to do so.

srika 06-28-2012 03:19 PM

do you seriously think Canon rushed the 5D3 to market??? Nikon the D800???

come on man. we've been waiting for these cameras FOREVER.

jupitersolo 06-28-2012 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by srika (Post 13872289)
do you seriously think Canon rushed the 5D3 to market??? Nikon the D800???

come on man. we've been waiting for these cameras FOREVER.

Waiting forever and then on the market before they were 100%, only to need firmware updates before they have been out six months? :ponder:

dom 06-28-2012 04:21 PM

Never buy a car in its first year of a redesign......not sure the same applies to electronics but car manufacturers are far more guilty of rushing product to market without knowing if every component will stand up.

I think all this means for the 7D is that we likely won't be seeing a 7D II until next year.

asianspec 07-20-2012 05:58 AM

Possible New Mirrorless camera leaked?

http://www.digitalrev.com/article/ca.../MzA4OTAwMTI_A

http://image04.digitalrev.com/finder...rorless_f1.jpg


There's a bit of bubbling in the bathtub about supposedly leaked pictures (or rather picture) of Canon's new mirrorless camera system, the EOS-M. Dunno if it's legit but it's kinda believable. I'd assume that they haven't done a Pentax and made a mirrorless camera that has the same mount as their DSLRs. The body looks quite thin so I guess that this EF-M lens is a new mount from them. One could also assume that it's a 1.6x crop APS-C sensor too, seeing as that lens would crop nicely to a lovely 35mm focal length.

Well, we'll just have to wait and see rather than making assumptions. Apparently, an announcement is due on the 23rd July. Let's hope it's not a fake that serves only to tease us momentarily before being let down by a load of printer announcements.

Source: Digicame (Japanese)

Thanks to Ian Paulo Viceo for the headsup on Twitter!

jupitersolo 07-20-2012 08:23 AM

You know, camera's need to be a little sexy, this isn't even close.

Mizouse 07-20-2012 09:10 AM

other rumors say that the mirrorless being announced on monday is catered towards the mass market.

they said that other models towards professionals/enthusiasts will be released later :shrug:

srika 07-20-2012 10:55 AM

it looks like something you might get in a Cracker Jack box... :bored:

Mizouse 07-20-2012 11:22 AM

Looks like a beefed up Powershot to me...

Moog-Type-S 07-23-2012 06:49 PM

Canon EOS M 18MP mirrorless camera official for October

http://www.slashgear.com/canon-eos-m...mber-23239715/

jupitersolo 07-23-2012 07:54 PM

Really?

Beelzebub 07-30-2012 07:53 AM

Just installed Magic Lantern on my cannon, and it gives me so many more options and controls than before.

Mizouse 07-31-2012 09:08 AM

http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-conten...olympics01.jpg

the 200-400 F4L IS 1.4x lens used in london

Mizouse 07-31-2012 09:09 AM

too bad that thing i think was what 20 grand? :yikes:

jupitersolo 07-31-2012 09:11 AM

There is two of them in that picture

asianspec 07-31-2012 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Mizouse (Post 13940327)
too bad that thing i think was what 20 grand? :yikes:

Wtf. I don't see why that would make any sense when the 100-400 is cheaper

cmschmie 07-31-2012 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Mizouse (Post 13940327)
too bad that thing i think was what 20 grand? :yikes:

....especially when the Nikon is $6800

I also don't quite understand the built in 1.4x. I'd think that the people most interested in this lens would already have a 1.4x for their telephoto primes.

srika 07-31-2012 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by cmschmie (Post 13940781)
....especially when the Nikon is $6800

I also don't quite understand the built in 1.4x. I'd think that the people most interested in this lens would already have a 1.4x for their telephoto primes.

I'd guess better IQ because of the integration. I have Canon's high end 1.4 TC and I rarely use it, it degrades the IQ too much. :bored:

Mizouse 07-31-2012 03:09 PM

Well the photographers say they love the lens and have nothing bad to say about it. But yea the price is a bit recockulous....

I got the price wrong, it's more like 11grand...

Also I dont think canon officially announced it yet, just that it's in the works.

asianspec 08-07-2012 12:07 PM

7D firmware 2.0 is out.

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/suppor...ersAndSoftware



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