Mizouse

from the looks of it the shutter mode thing i guess only works in live view mode? thats why it sounded the same, cause i found another video and its a noticeable difference.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=b__GrYTaLlM

ChodTheWacko

oh yeah - duh!

Mizouse

and man i never knew that about the menu system of the 20D, is it the same on the 30D?

cause im just used to the rebel XTi, where the menu is pretty much the like how it is on the 40D

Mizouse

interesting

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dig4MdpIX0o

its a animation of the pictures while tracking the train in AI servo

wndrlst

Wow! I don't have time to watch it all before work today, but I got started...thanks for taking the time! I'll watch the rest tonight.


Oh, and that LCD is INSANE!

waTSX

First, thanks a lot for putting together the videos! Reps for that. A couple of impressions: As far as the difference in shutter sound it was hard to tell from the video the difference between the 20 and 40D, but I'll take your word that the new camera is quieter. That'll be nice given how noisy the 20D is (one of my few beefs with the camera).

Also, the burst rate in the new camera, both for RAW and JPeg, is crazy! That's a nice upgrade as well, and will really help when shooting sports and the like. I often seemed to come up a little short in high speed sequences, like the one I hot to get my avatar.

Also, as far as I could gather at the end of the last vid, the focusing speed is much quicker with the new camera, and that too is very nice. The focusing can be a little hit and miss with the 20D, so I hope accuracy is improved as well with the 40D. I'd be very interested to hear IQ impressions between the two cameras as well, high ISO, dynamic range, etc.

Thanks again.

srika

dang, nice LCD.

jupitersolo

Looks like this might be a future purchase, the AF is faster and the fps, may make this a buy while waiting for 5D replacement.

reps for vids

jupitersolo

Chod, do you have a battery grip for your 20D? If so, does it fit the 40D?

wndrlst

Where. Is. My. Camera.??

Mizouse

the 20D and 30D grip should work. the new one only added extra weather sealing and the AF-ON button.

wndrlst

First off...thank you for taking the time/effort to put those up...

2nd - that jpeg AI servo demo was hawt. The neverending buffer...

3rd - I lol'd at you shooting the Transformer! You're not friends with Yummy, by chance, are you?



Thanks again!

jupitersolo

That's not what I read over at FM, a guy was told (by Canon Customer Service) that the BG-E2 would not fit the 40D, the new BG-E2N would and the new BG-E2N wouldn't fit the 20D or 30D.

Mizouse

ohh, i had no idea cause when it was announced i read somewhere that it would work, but i guess the info was wrong.

jupitersolo

That's what I read everywhere as well.

jupitersolo

http://www.tribcsp.com/~sigma2/40D-M...formation.html

wndrlst

D/L'd...thanks!

Mizouse

interesting, on page 103 of the manual it says that you can disable the flash firing of the internal or external flash, meaning if you have a speedlite you can disable the flash from firing if you want to use only the af-assist beam

Mizouse

i wonder if that only works for specific flash units, like 580ex only etc. or if it will work with my 430ex

and nice that it has a PC connection.

ChodTheWacko

Here's something surprising:

I was swapping lenses/card between the 20d & 40D to do some 20d/40D conparison shots.
I hit 'review pictures' on the 20D, and was able to look at the 40D RAW files! The picture & white balance looked right - most of the exif information was gone though.

- Frank

wndrlst

It shipped! It shipped! It finally shipped!

jupitersolo

^^^ amazon.com???

wndrlst

Si. I called Ace this morning, they said they're expecting them in this week, but they don't know when. Checked my email about 10 min. later, & got a shipping notification from Amazon. Only strange thing is that the est. delivery date is 9/4-9/24? I'm thinking they've gotten so much flak and so many cancellations for switching dates around, that they don't want to change my original estimate of 9/24??

All I know is it should be here Wednesday. Good thing, since it looks like I'll be sending the XT out for service...

Billiam

What carrier did they ship it with? If it happens to be the USPS, be aware that it's not uncommon for their tracking system to show a status of "delivered" when the package reaches the closest distribution point. My copy of Photoshop showed a status of delivered for two business days before it actually arrived. To make it even more worry-inducing, the zip code it showed delivered to was totally different than any I had on file with Amazon. I'm guessing it was the zip code for the nearest distribution hub. I can't imagine going through the same thing with a new camera.

jupitersolo

Did they give you a tracking number? If so, that's a good thing?

wndrlst

Yikes! That would be so stressful!

Fortunately, it's via UPS. I do have a tracking number (yay!) which shows the carrier has been notified to pick up the package. Looks like they mean it.

jupitersolo

I have amazon prime, everything ships "two-day via UPS", sometimes nextday. I hate when thing get sent USPS, when I purchase online.

ChodTheWacko

Congrats - I'm sure you'll be pretty happy with it.

I took some pics with it this weekend. No real complaints yet.

Some second impressions:
Despite reports, I don't feel the viewfinder is any larger than the 20D's. It is brighter though, which is quite nice.

Highlight tone mode disables ISO 100, which is documented. It also shuts off ISO 3200, which isn't a big deal but interesting to note. For some reason I think it's hilarious that it uses tiny zeros if highlight mode is on. I.e. it says ISO 8oo instead of ISO800. It's like it's squinting in the bright light.

The 'show blown highlights' doesn't do anything if only 1 color (say green) is blown out. It seems RGB all need to be blown out for it to blink. This is kind of bad.

I was hoping for a better zoom when looking at previous pictures on the LCD.
It still just uses the tiny embeded picture in the RAW file, so focused pictures still look blurry at maximum zoom. In fact, since the LCD is bigger with the same resolution, it looks even worse than it did on the 20D. I expected this, but it's still dissapointing.

It is nice having plenty of room for the RGB histogram though.

I'm hoping some sort of adobe update is released before I go on vacation - I was hoping to work on pictures on the plane ride home.

I went through this conversation about 5 times:
Friend: Hey, can I see your camera?
Me: Sure
Friend: How come I can't see the picture on the LCD?
Me: You can't. Oh wait........

- Frank

waTSX

Sweet!

wndrlst

@ the coversation... Sadly, I'm sure that's what will impress my friends/family the most!

I, too, am hoping Adobe puts something out very quickly. I don't want to keep my friend waiting for her wedding pics, but I don't want to use DPP either.

Thanks for the update...all in all, it sounds like it will be quite the upgrade from my XT, and well worth the money. Even if the viewfinder is the same as the 20D, I'm looking forward to the step up in that capacity from my XT.

ChodTheWacko

Dpreview forums have reached a new level of obnoxiousness now that the search function is broken/disabled.

waTSX

^^That's really saying something.

wndrlst

Billiam

I was wondering what Reichmann's comments were going to be about Canon's MLU stance not really changing.



http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...-handson.shtml

wndrlst

^Glad to hear it's at least more readily accessible. It's an improvement!


btw, Jup, Ace has them in, as of this afternoon....you know, just in case you change your mind.

jupitersolo

I think I'm going to wait for my 5, hopefully as like last year, Canon starts their rebates again middle of next month. A 300mm f/4L is in my targets as well.

wndrlst

Nice! Hey, I'm thinking of heading back to Rollingwood Farm to test out the new body when it arrives. You mentioned being interested in shooting B&W's there...If I get permission, do you want to bring your film body?

jupitersolo

You BETCHA!!!! just let me know! you still have my cell?


I'll be in Delaware on a day trip tomorrow (business).

Monday I'm going to take a Lightroom seminar in DC at Convention Center, when I told my boss that I wanted the day off to do it, he told me to put it on the company CC. It was only $99.00 http://www.photoshopseminars.com/

wndrlst

Cool...I think I've still got it. My usual availability is Sun, Tues, or Wed. I think my early a.m.'s are free for Sun or Tues this upcoming week. Could do Wed with a little finagling. I've got to give the owner a call & clear it...she may require you to sign an injury waiver, just because of the horses on the property.



Oh, and your boss rocks!

Billiam

If you happen to think of it, let us know how Scott Kelby is as a speaker. He seems like a pretty entertaining guy in the interviews and other video segments I've seen him in.