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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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how much does film and processing cost these days? have the prices gone up?
Film? can be $5-$10, processing about $10, depends on roll 24 or 36.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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I only get 36 shots???? haha.

hasn't changed much really then eh. cool.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
recently? how much did everything cost you?
My father gave me all the darkroom stuff, so I have no idea. The processing cost was about $5 at walgreens I only shot a test roll through it before putting it up on ebay.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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nah was just talking film and store-processing..

thanks
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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I can see you probably burning thru 4-5 rolls a night.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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at least when the d-bags ask for photos I can say I'm running out of film and really mean it!
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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I haven't shot film since HS. My dad has all the darkroom equipment and I used it for a while - after he stopped. B&W was pretty cool to play with, but color was too involved for my limited patience.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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I get requests like this once in a while... I don't know her personally (never met her) but she is on a forum other people I know are on.. but I am not a very active participant there. I'm just wondering what to do here, I mean part of me doesn't want to be a dick and be like "no", I mean, 10 photos, BFD - just let her use em, BFD. But the other part of me thinks I shouldn't be giving up my photos for free like this - I mean, if they are being used somewhere. It devalues our trade and so I think even just out of principle, I should say no to free photos for such a purpose. Being put in situations like this really bugs me. What do you think?

Oh also, she was referred to me by a friend who I know pretty well - that's an added layer of contemplation.

I have a sort of random request for you. I've totally always dug your nightlife photos and I happen to be working on a project that needs shots of Chicago nightlife.

I was wondering if you'd be kind enough to let me use some images for this project I'm working on (it's basically an interactive in-room tourist guide at some of the major hotels downtown.). I sadly can't pay you for them, but I'm happy to give you and your site a credit.

I'd only really need about 10 images total for nightlife, but there may be an opportunity for more usage of your images in other aspects of the content.

Let me know what you think,

Thanks!
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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If she is getting paid for the project, then she should pay you for the photos. End of discussion.

I got a request to use one of my images on flickr to be used for GQ online. Of course they weren't going to pay, so I said no. I don't think anyone other than photographers bother to even look at photo credits.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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I'd let them use it, puts your name out there.

But if they end up wanting more, then I say start charging.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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I don't know whether she is getting paid.... wouldn't it be odd to be like, are you getting paid for this?
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
I'd let them use it, puts your name out there.

But if they end up wanting more, then I say start charging.
thing is, I kinda wanna cut back on the nightlife stuff - it's not an area where I want to get more exposure and networking... I already have a pretty good standing in CHI nightlife..
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
I don't know whether she is getting paid.... wouldn't it be odd to be like, are you getting paid for this?
This isn't a school project - it is something that will end up being in hotels. And you have every right to ask and know whether or not she will be profiting from your work.

Of course, you do what you feel is right for you.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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hmm. the hotel thing *could* be some sort of new and different exposure, but think about it, if you're at a hotel and you're looking at a kiosk and you see pictures of the city and nightlife or what not, are you ever interested in those pictures at a greater level than just a quick glance? I sure am not. lol
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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I had an offer for a newspaper to use one of my sports images but w/o pay.

My reason for saying yes is because it gets my name out there for people to see and for other photographers/editors to see. Also something to put in my portfolio/resume
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
hmm. the hotel thing *could* be some sort of new and different exposure, but think about it, if you're at a hotel and you're looking at a kiosk and you see pictures of the city and nightlife or what not, are you ever interested in those pictures at a greater level than just a quick glance? I sure am not. lol

If I'm in a new area and I'm looking for stuff to do and the images make the place look interesting then I'd go check it out.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
If I'm in a new area and I'm looking for stuff to do and the images make the place look interesting then I'd go check it out.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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As someone now trying to make a good portion of my living with my photography, I side with moe on this. So many people get good images for free these days that the market for them is rapidly diminishing. If your images were mediocre, I'd say go for it, but you really produce some great photos with a very distinct flavor. It's hard to carve out your own niche in this day and age, but you're doing it. That has inherent value.

Just my
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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You should be compensated in some way for sure. It's a commercial project. Someone's getting paid to put those things in the room, and the final product would be pretty damn boring without photos. So in that regard, your photos are the product, so you should be getting paid.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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I guess for me, I would charge if I was doing this as a hobby and someone approached me asking to use some.

But for me at the time I was really considering trying to get job as a photojournalist so I was ok with it.

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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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yeah the feeling in my mind upon reading it was I should be paid. but it's nice to hear what everyone thinks. thanks.

maybe I'll formulate the word "sadly" into my response, just as she did in her msg. haha
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 01:44 AM
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someone hated on my photo that won the book cover.... here is what they said:
is this HDR, b/c most of your stuff is & thats just the computer doing all the work.
lol - btw it's not a HDR - I let them know
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 05:29 AM
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I think I haven't seen an HDR from you in a long while.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
someone hated on my photo that won the book cover.... here is what they said:

lol - btw it's not a HDR - I let them know
What dicks, the image won because people liked it. It doesn't matter what was used to process. Sounds like a sore effing loser.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
someone hated on my photo that won the book cover.... here is what they said:

lol - btw it's not a HDR - I let them know
Ok, whose teeth do I need to knock out?
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
someone hated on my photo that won the book cover.... here is what they said:

lol - btw it's not a HDR - I let them know
Eff 'em.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Well, I can't compete with your book cover, srika, but I heard final confirmation today (and received the tear sheet) that 2 of my images will grace the 2010 American Horse Council brochure, including the cover. I have permission to post it on my site and a blog, but I don't want to push that by posting it on a forum, so I'll just post the link.

http://www.moxiephotos.com/Portfolio...09353652_B7vJG

Their designer did a gorgeous job! (The second image is just a background fade on the inside, so I didn't post it on the site.)

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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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eh whatever.. it was just kinda funny, I didn't expect to see that on the photo's page itself. here is what I responded:

no it is not a HDR, in fact very little processing on it - just color correction, color balance, and smoothing of the seams on the panoramic segments. and also, HDR is not the computer doing all the work - you still have to tell it what you want it to do.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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eh whatever.. it was just kinda funny, I didn't expect to see that on the photo's page itself. here is what I responded:
Good reply, and very true. Go get em tiger.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by wndrlst
Well, I can't compete with your book cover, srika, but I heard final confirmation today (and received the tear sheet) that 2 of my images will grace the 2010 American Horse Council brochure, including the cover. I have permission to post it on my site and a blog, but I don't want to push that by posting it on a forum, so I'll just post the link.

http://www.moxiephotos.com/Portfolio...52_B7vJG-L.jpg

Their designer did a gorgeous job! (The second image is just a background fade on the inside, so I didn't post it on the site.)
oh come on - that's great! I checked out your horse pics on your site, some really nice stuff in there, glad it's being seen!

edit: "horse pics" .... you know what I mean...
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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Thanks! I'm very excited!!
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by wndrlst
Thanks! I'm very excited!!
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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Did you ever get out to shoot that horse stuff with your friend?
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by wndrlst
Did you ever get out to shoot that horse stuff with your friend?
noooo...

but I think I can go by myself if I want, do they do this kind of thing year-round? would make a nice winter activity -
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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noooo...

but I think I can go by myself if I want, do they do this kind of thing year-round? would make a nice winter activity -
There are different seasons for each discipline. For instance, the hunter shows are ending now, but field hunting is just about to get started. Not sure if that's popular in Illinois?
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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I have no idea... but also I am longing for a 70-200 2.8L now.... I would like to have that before pursuing this.. I'm quite sure the 24-70 won't cut it and the 28-300 does not have the low-light and sharpness I want.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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You'll definitely want some reach, but to be honest, I rarely open up to 2.8 because I need more dof to get the rider and the horse's head both in focus. If I'm allowed a little more artistic license, I will on occasion open up. For the equine portrait sessions I did all day on Saturday, I used my 24-105 and never wished for a wider aperture. Just saying, if you get your hands on a well-priced f/4 that's all I find I'd use on the horses on a typical day.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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hmm. and there's probably a lot of light right, and consistent. I have this problem where when I think "indoor" I immediately think of the clubs. lol
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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Well, granted indoor arenas are pretty dark. I mostly shoot outdoor events. The professional shots I see of indoor jumper shows have obvious direct flash - they're kinda icky. You could bring a whole new level to it with strobes! The thought of freaking out a horse with my flash terrifies me.

But yeah, they're brighter than clubs!
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