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There is actually no more SR+ version on the list, as it was directly replaced by the Tesla Model 3 Rear-Wheel Drive (RWD).
One would say that nothing really changed - just the name, but we guess that a major overhaul is coming.
The Model 3 RWD received a slightly higher EPA range rating (just like a few other versions) - 10 miles or 3.8% more. The biggest change in the specs appears to be however the 0-60 mph (96.5 km/h) acceleration time, changed from 5.3 to 5.8 seconds.
This, combined with the previous announcement about the global switch to LFP battery chemistry in all standard-range cars, starts to add up.
We guess that Tesla might soon re-introduce in the U.S. the Long Range Rear-Wheel Drive version of the car - to differentiate it a little bit, it will also have a slightly higher acceleration (the good old 5.3 seconds).
There might be a basic RWD range version with CATL's LFP battery and long-range with current Panasonic NCA or even LG Energy Solution's NCM chemistry. Who knows, maybe there will be an all-wheel drive version with the shorter range too?
In the longer term, we should see completely new versions (but that will start with the Model Y) with the Tesla's 4680-type cylindrical cells.
Looking at the above. The base M3 is about $5k cheaper than my 2015 C300 was when new, with similar performance (0-60 at least) specs, but less full tank/charge range.
Likely with significantly lower cost to own, depending on the insurance costs. The C ate tires at a slightly alarming rate.
Looking at the above. The base M3 is about $5k cheaper than my 2015 C300 was when new, with similar performance (0-60 at least) specs, but less full tank/charge range.
Likely with significantly lower cost to own, depending on the insurance costs. The C ate tires at a slightly alarming rate.
Tesla eats tires too especially if you're liberal with the skinny pedal.
This reminds me I need to get my winter tire put on...I lit up all four wheels this morning on the way to work when it was 37F outside.
i have never seen so many news other brand vehicles for sale on Craigslist like Tesla. and tesla is more and more turo.
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto...401392885.html Recently purchased, super clean, Tesla Model 3, Long Range battery, 19" Sport wheels, Pearl White exterior, Black interior Just over 600 miles. Doesn't suit owner's needs, desires traditional vehicle.
only white car with black interior Model 3 comes at $45K. Red color is $2K extra. white seats extra.
it provide very limited. C class much nicer interior.
Tesla front and rear GROSS Weight addition is far higher than total gross vehicle weight. very high air pressure needed.
TLX gross and individuls F/R are approximate equal with lower tire pressure.
Tesla front and rear GROSS Weight addition is far higher than total gross vehicle weight. very high air pressure needed.
TLX gross and individuls F/R are approximate equal with lower tire pressure.
Remember those times you posted random bullshit and got called out on it then proceeded to crawl away like a little whiny baby?
I swear SSFTSX must have a wheel with a bunch of obscure automotive terms, and he spins it to see which argument he's going to pull out of his ass in a given post.
Apart from bashing U.S. politicians, interacting with selected fans, and promising autonomous driving on Twitter, Elon Musk does not do much else in social media. Yet, some Tesla customers still think they can ask for his help there. That was the case with a man so far identified solely as Elijah. On November 4, he shared that his Model 3 caught fire. 9 photos
The blaze happened on October 21, 2021, at 9:46 AM in Queens, New York. Elijah only described the situation when he mentioned that the Tesla Service Center in Syosset, Long Island, refused to investigate the causes of the fire. In his words, because “they don’t care.” In the same tweet, he asked Musk if it was normal for a car just to catch fire while driving.
Elijah’s 2018 Model 3 would still be under warranty, and he even shared the car’s VIN in his tweet. He also added eight pictures of the vehicle after the fire and one video that shows it up in flames in the middle of a street. The pictures reveal that everything occurred at the intersection between 156th Street and 33rd Avenue.
Checking Elijah’s Twitter handle, it seems his name is Elijah Chung. We are trying to get in touch with him so that he can tell us all the details of the fire. If you know him or have more information about the incident, please get in touch.
The pictures and the video suggest that the blaze was not caused by a thermal runaway in the battery pack. If that were the case, the firefighters would have had much more trouble extinguishing the fire. The car would also be just a pile of twisted metal if that were the cause. Despite that, Elijah deserves to know what caused the entire situation. Tesla and his Tesla Service Center should be in charge of that. Musk was probably his last hope for an official response.
In his last tweet about the fire, Elijah asked Musk what he should do, why his car caught fire, and why other vehicles don’t. Kia and Hyundai recently faced recalls for fire in their combustion-engined cars in the U.S. The engineer Kim Gwang-ho even received a reward of $24 million for denouncing a defect on Theta II engines, being the first whistleblower to get that compensation.
However, Elijah had an issue with his Model 3 – not with a Kia or a Hyundai – and it must have been pretty scary. So far, Elon Musk has not replied to his appeal for help. Given his behavior regarding similar cases, we don't think he ever will.
Nope i do not agree with this. He also promote doge coin! To the moon!!!
Apart from bashing U.S. politicians, interacting with selected fans, and promising autonomous driving on Twitter, Elon Musk does not do much else in social media.
—————— Tesla updated the existing inventory page of their website on Sunday night, adding a large number of 2021 Model 3s across the United States.
Many of these cars are ‘Demo Vehicles’, which means they were previously used for potential owners to test drive. They usually only have a few hundred miles on them, and can be purchased for a small discount compared to new.
However, Tesla added a new and significant disclaimer to these cars tonight that can be easily missed if the buyer isn’t paying attention.
Underneath many of the listing it now says “Range figures may be up to 12% lower due to battery age,” along with a link to “Learn More.” (h/t: Angelo)
Credit: Tesla When clicking on that link, a disclaimer pops up saying even though this is a 2021 car, the battery pack could have been manufactured as early as 2017.
As a result, it could have as much as a 12% reduction in range compared to “current product specifications.”
Credit: Tesla This change appears to only impact cars on the U.S. version of the existing inventory site. In reviewing multiple Canadian cities, Drive Tesla was able to find only a handful of used Model 3s north of the border, none of which had the same disclaimer.
Credit: TeslaCredit: Tesla One thing to keep in mind is that the disclaimer says “from current production specifications.”
When the Model 3 Long Range (RWD) first launched in 2017 it was rated for 310 miles (498km). The Model 3 Long Range being sold today has a 358 mile (576km) range, so a 12% reduction in range would equate to about 315 miles (506km) in these cars.
It is difficult to understand how or why Tesla is using battery packs from as far back as 2017 to install in 2021 model year cars.
One possible explanation is a cell shortage, and Tesla is prioritizing new batteries for cars that are not being used as demo vehicles.
That's some pretty shady stuff going on. Once sold, when these cars go back on the used market, will the downstream buyers even know about these reclaimed batteries?
Rumour has it these are scrapped batteries from the original Model 3 run line that were written off. Between this and the Chinese-sourced CATL batteries, it's pretty obvious Tesla has run into battery supply issues.
There real world tests on Model Y in Europe. they get around 285 mile best. Audi Q4 between 262 to 316 mile. so any one buying should understand range will be similar to competition. the only thing is degradation like after warranty if happens.
That's some pretty shady stuff going on. Once sold, when these cars go back on the used market, will the downstream buyers even know about these reclaimed batteries?
Rumour has it these are scrapped batteries from the original Model 3 run line that were written off. Between this and the Chinese-sourced CATL batteries, it's pretty obvious Tesla has run into battery supply issues.
as long as Elon blessed those batteries, they should be able to outperform the new batteries. #Elonisgod
Model 3 standard will the recycled but blessed battery will outperform the new Model 3 LR
LR with the blessed batteries? Man... Plaid S needs to move over when a Model 3 LR with Elon battery coming up from behind.
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Seems like a generic warning for all used models, the vehicle is used and may not get the EPA range it once did, and Tesla won’t sell a car with a battery with less than 88% of it new max charge capacity
I’m still confused. Are these used cars or brand new cars? I’m okay if they are used for whatever length of time, but unacceptable if brand new. Even if there’s a disclaimer, only the real savvy are likely to notice it.
Existing inventory is used vehicles. Some have 50 miles some have 50000, it’s a generic warning that they can’t guarantee the new epa range on a used car.
Existing inventory is used vehicles. Some have 50 miles some have 50000, it’s a generic warning that they can’t guarantee the new epa range on a used car.
this is a nothing burger
That's not quite right. Existing Inventory on the Tesla site is split between Used and New vehicles. The cars under the Used section do not have this disclaimer.
Existing Inventory for New vehicles appear to consist of brand new unsold Teslas (either customer rejects, or maybe they're just not selling out); or Demo vehicles which Tesla is selling as "New" since it does not have a previous owner. Note that only the Demo vehicles have the warning/disclaimer on the battery.
There real world tests on Model Y in Europe. they get around 285 mile best. Audi Q4 between 262 to 316 mile. so any one buying should understand range will be similar to competition. the only thing is degradation like after warranty if happens.
I hate when I agree with this guy, but he's right. Real world, Tesla and VAG have vehicles with similar ranges, but Tesla tends to overstate whereas VAG tends to underestimate.
I’m still confused. Are these used cars or brand new cars? I’m okay if they are used for whatever length of time, but unacceptable if brand new. Even if there’s a disclaimer, only the real savvy are likely to notice it.
They seem to be new used cars. Demo units aren't titled even though they are racking up miles so they are still technically a new car. The advantage is that the warranty starts when the car is first titled so getting a demo unit with 5000 miles on it would just add 5000 miles to the back end of the warranty.
It's not about being savvy, quit trying to justify this nonsense. It's trying to sell a new car with an old battery. I give them credit for being upfront about it but it is kind of shitty.
Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Existing inventory is used vehicles. Some have 50 miles some have 50000, it’s a generic warning that they can’t guarantee the new epa range on a used car.
this is a nothing burger
Kind of. Even though a demo unit is a "used car" it has never been titled so it's technically a new one. It's not a generic warning to say that a MY21 car may have a battery manufactured in 2017. That's BS if you ask me. It's like saying that Ford is selling "new" Mustangs with engines they dug up from 2017. It's also not a generic warning because it only appears on certain cars, not all of them.
Originally Posted by kurtatx
I hate when I agree with this guy, but he's right. Real world, Tesla and VAG have vehicles with similar ranges, but Tesla tends to overstate whereas VAG tends to underestimate.
Yup. I've never gotten the rated range out of mine in any conditions.
I’m still confused. Are these used cars or brand new cars? I’m okay if they are used for whatever length of time, but unacceptable if brand new. Even if there’s a disclaimer, only the real savvy are likely to notice it.
I’m not at all trying to justify it, in fact I am calling Tesla out on that. I meant “Only customers looking with a fine comb are likely to notice the warning in small print”.
But if that is only on demo units, I’m sorta okay with it, since it’s not really a new new car.
Tesla is recalling more than 475,000 of its Model 3 and Model S electric cars to address rearview camera and trunk issues that increase the risk of crashing, the U.S. road safety regulator said.
The U.S. electric vehicle manufacturer is recalling 356,309 2017-2020 Model 3 vehicles to address rearview camera issues and 119,009 Model S vehicles due to front hood problems, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said.
Tesla is not aware of any crashes, injuries or deaths related to the issues with its Model 3 and Model S cars, the NHTSA said.
They’re separate issues. Based off the article it’s an issue with the camera. And then an issue with the trunk that can cause crashes.
For Model 3 sedans, “the rearview camera cable harness may be damaged by the opening and closing of the trunk lid, preventing the rearview camera image from displaying,” the NHTSA said.
For Model S vehicles, front hood latch problems may lead a trunk to open “without warning and obstruct the driver’s visibility, increasing the risk of a crash,” Tesla said.
i would have thought M3P would have been faster from the dig.
The RS5 does not seem like it belongs in the same league.. but it does look the best tho..
does it actually do that? majority of the replies say it doesnt actually do it. Plus if you look at the marks on the road, it does not appear to be accelerating
How does a rearview camera issue lead to increased likelihood of a crash?
Hood issues on the S, sure.
I think the word "crash" is used pretty loosely but it's likely more to do with backing up over small animals and children than an actual crash. Rearview cameras are mandatory by law that they are present and functional. A design related flaw would make the cars illegal so they have to fix it.
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i would have thought M3P would have been faster from the dig.