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Old 10-12-2020, 07:22 AM
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Known for modifying upscale British vehicles like Aston Martins, Bentleys, Jaguars and Land Rovers, Brabus-owned Startech has expanded its portfolio in recent years.

Back in 2017, Startech began offering tuning parts for the Maserati Levante, and now the German specialist has turned its attention to the world’s most prominent EV: the Tesla Model 3.

The compact electric luxury sedan has received a number of modifications that sharpen up its exterior appearance and make the interior look sportier. On the outside, Startech has fitted aerodynamic elements made from high-grade carbon & Pur-R-Rim.

Those include a custom front bumper that lends the Model 3 a more aggressive face, a rear bumper designed in the same vein as its front counterpart, side flaps in front of the rear wheels, and a fixed rear wing complete with side elements that extend above the haunches.

Combined, these parts will set buyers back €3,144 ($3,710) in Germany, VAT included, although they can also be bought separately. Also contributing to the Model 3’s sharper appearance are the 20-inch Monostar M alloys in a black polished finish.

They are available in two sizes, 9J x 20-inch shod with 245/35 R20 rubber, or 10.5J x 20-inch wrapped in 285/30 R20 tires. The rims come with aluminum center caps in a center lock design that can be had in a silver, blue, red or black finish.

Startech also offers lowering springs in combination with the custom wheels that bring the car 30-mm (1.2-in) closer to the ground for a more purposeful stance. The lowering kit costs €346 ($409), while the rims cost €684 / $808 (9J x 20) and €731 / $863 (10.5J x 20), respectively.

For the interior, Startech has developed accessories made from carbon fiber and Alcantara. The carbon parts include steering wheel and door trim pieces, while Alcantara covers the entire headliner, including the sun visors and pillars. Rounding out the interior upgrades is an aluminum pedal set.


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Old 10-12-2020, 07:23 AM
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A bit Lambo-ish, and don't care for the wing, but not terrible & adds some character to the rather smooth front.
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That’s pretty cool.
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yea kind of neat looking. but yea not a fan of that wang.
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It reminds me of a Saturn.
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Reminds me of the crappy body kits people put on their Mitsubishi Eclipses around the NFS:Underground era of cars.

I don't love it, but I also don't hate it, kudos to companies for designing new things nevertheless.
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Old 10-12-2020, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cu2wagon
It reminds me of a Saturn.

Coincidentally, I saw a Saturn just last week with a full ground effect kit on it. Surprisingly, it was well done, though unattractive. No panel gaps & the paint matched really well.
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Model update gets increased range

Tesla updates the model 3 range with interior upgrades and a bump in range to 353 miles for the long range version. There are corresponding increases in other versions in the line up. Performance range is 315 miles. Still waiting for the big boys to arrive. .

https://electrek.co/2020/10/16/tesla...ange-features/
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So chrome delete, redesigned center console, double paned windows for noise reduction, powered trunk, 3 new rim options, Octavalve and heat pump, and new headlights

The Standard Plus is now 263mi from 250mi, and LR is 353mi from 322mi

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That 10% range improvement is probably all from the Octavalve and heat pump. Hopefully they can add that to the S and X soon, who knows what kindof old tech they're using.
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Oh and they're all faster 0-60

Weight savings or the reduced AC load means more power to the motors?

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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
That 10% range improvement is probably all from the Octavalve and heat pump. Hopefully they can add that to the S and X soon, who knows what kindof old tech they're using.
The X now has 371mi range up from 351. Heat pump?

I know the S and X don't have anywhere near as much in common parts wise as the 3 and Y so maybe the X HVAC is more similar to the 3s which makes adding the heat pump easier to do than the S. Pure speculation, of course
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Oh and they're all faster 0-60

Weight savings or the reduced AC load means more power to the motors?

Based on what showing up in my upgrades menu on my tesla app, all of the models got that increase in acceleration including existing models. Before I got the latest software upgrade it said 4.4 seconds but it’s now showing 4.2




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Originally Posted by kurtatx
Based on what showing up in my upgrades menu on my tesla app, all of the models got that increase in acceleration including existing models. Before I got the latest software upgrade it said 4.4 seconds but it’s now showing 4.2

Did your range show any change/improve?
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The 10% range increase also means that the 3 got 10% cheaper to charge. So while you may not take advantage of 350mi range everyday with a 3 the efficiency improvement still means lower Wh/mi which means you have to charge up less. So it probably costs $50-$100/yr less to operate now
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Originally Posted by Comfy
Did your range show any change/improve?
probably not
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Originally Posted by Comfy
Did your range show any change/improve?
it didn’t. If I had to guess, Stunna is right about the heat pump being a major driver.
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$2k for a slight acceleration bump? Pass on that.
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
it didn’t. If I had to guess, Stunna is right about the heat pump being a major driver.
or maybe the aerodynamic efficiencies gained from changing the center console .
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Originally Posted by Comfy
or maybe the aerodynamic efficiencies gained from changing the center console .
If I had to guess, it has to do with the way range is formulated. I'm guessing cold weather performance tanks the projected range.

Although, I drive 90ish on Texas highways so my range is trash anyway
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
If I had to guess, it has to do with the way range is formulated. I'm guessing cold weather performance tanks the projected range.

Although, I drive 90ish on Texas highways so my range is trash anyway
Absolutely. Saw the video by the science guy which goes into details of that.
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The reason why Tesla can’t compete with the big boys.
By the time the big boys arrive, Tesla has already gone. .
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Originally Posted by Comfy
The reason why Tesla can’t compete with the big boys.
By the time the big boys arrive, Tesla has already gone. .
Definitely worth reading about Citroen and the invention of FWD. For some time they were "miles ahead", then the rest of the competitors got better.
I'm not saying that's going to happen, but Tesla can never rest on their laurels.
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My bff just picked up his Model 3 from getting the HW3 upgrade from the service center. Now I just need him to get on that Early Access Beta program. Either way we'll be playing around with the new FSD 4D rewrite in a few months. I drove his 3 when it was on HW2.5 w FSD but it didn't have all of the features, it couldn't stop/start at red lights and stop signs. He was pretty excited to hear his cap beep at him when the light turns green.
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I thought the green light beep was actually pretty cool. It's a great idea IMO.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
$2k for a slight acceleration bump? Pass on that.
4.2s to 3.7s seems like a pretty decent jump man. In a gas car to get that sort of performance gain would probably cost more...

Hopefully the Model Y gets these updates too. Interested in getting one.
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The acceleration boost is available on the Y too
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Originally Posted by iforyou
4.2s to 3.7s seems like a pretty decent jump man. In a gas car to get that sort of performance gain would probably cost more...

Hopefully the Model Y gets these updates too. Interested in getting one.
$2,000 isn’t horrible from a car standpoint, but in principle I won’t pay for a software unlock for something like speed.
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I hear you man...lol. Very true.
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
$2,000 isn’t horrible from a car standpoint, but in principle I won’t pay for a software unlock for something like speed.
It’s the same realistically for people who do upgrades or engine flash to improve performance, but totally understand your point of view about not paying to unlock something which already exists in your car. It is somewhat similar to issue of the $35k base model 3 (which is in fact a software limited variant of SR+) if I recall correctly.
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An ECU flash for most modern cars is like $700, not $2000.
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It's my understanding that the M3 LR and the M3P use the same motors and that the only difference it the rims, brakes, pedals, carbon spoiler, and track mode. The reduced range in the M3P is mostly because of the 20in rims, compared 18in w/ aero caps. There was a period in time which you could get a stealth performance that had the speed but not the extra hardware, that was $5k more, I think.
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not quite exactly sure what was happening but saw something neat earlier today with a Model 3.
I was at some asian plaza picking up some food to go and I saw a lady and her son walk up to a white model 3. It seemed like she was having issues unlocking the car. So she eventually called someone and started telling them they couldnt get in to the car and the app was asking for the email on the account.
I guess she wasnt very technically inclined so she asked the person on the phone if they could open the door, a few moments later the door unlocked.

Neat i guess but maybe she should carry around the key card or if tesla had a physical key back up then maybe she wouldnt have had to do that? What if no one was able to help her?


Also that sentry flash is super annoying. As I was waiting in line that same Model 3 kept flashing at me. I mean i couldn't really stand somewhere else due to social distancing

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They do have a physical card you can use instead of your phone, it comes with the car


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thats what i said..
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There’s a key (card) as well as the ability for the remote service to unlock upon request (and that’s free). What more do you want?
In my current car, if I’m locked out, then I’m stuck with paying a fee to the guy who unlocks the door - regardless.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
An ECU flash for most modern cars is like $700, not $2000.
Some have stuck their head in sand by continuing with ICE comparisons. You’re an embarrassment.
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
They do have a physical card you can use instead of your phone, it comes with the car

https://youtu.be/7xxCgtXEMVY
Honestly, the best part of the keycard is the price.

If you lose or break your key fob, you’re fucked to the tune of between $100 and $300. If you lose your Tesla key, they’ll replace it for $10.

And honestly, with it being a key card, you just slide it behind your drivers license and forget it’s there.
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The 10% range/efficiency increase not only means more range and lower operating cost it also means faster charging speeds. The 3 still has a 74 kWh battery so it’s efficiency is now 353 mi/74 kWh = 4.77mi/kWh (better efficiency than the Lucid Air for 1/3 the cost). This means when a model 3 is charging at it’s peak rate of 250kw it’s adding range at about 1200mi/hr.

250kw*4.77mi/kWh = 1193 MPH


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