Official 05RL info ***PG 4
#201
I don't see any confusion...it's clearly marked + and -, just like on cruise control when you want to go faster or slower, there's accel and decel. You gotta be real dumb to screw that up.
#202
I don't see ANY RL owners using those things. RL= very conservative buyer. With the new ones conservative styling, it won't attract any younger buyers interested in such items.
#203
Originally Posted by phile
RL interactive showroom is up and running at the Acura site.
I was checking out the headlights, they don't swivel as much as I thought they would...is that any different than the competition?
I was checking out the headlights, they don't swivel as much as I thought they would...is that any different than the competition?
#204
I don't see the confusion or misleading info. They said paddles and they have the thumb paddles on the wheel. Bmw having column shifters means nothing. Bmws system is electronic, they could have put the controls next to the window switches or on the radio controls if the wanted too. Its all about comfort of shifting. If acura has their manumatic shifters within a comfortable reach of the driver they will be fine. Its up to the buyer to realize, acura hasn't developed a race transmission, its rather an auto with thumb shifters.
#205
I don't think buyers would care. I doubt the paddle shifters will attract/detract buyers...they're just there; nice to have 'em.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I don't see ANY RL owners using those things. RL= very conservative buyer. With the new ones conservative styling, it won't attract any younger buyers interested in such items.
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Originally Posted by phile
I don't think buyers would care. I doubt the paddle shifters will attract/detract buyers...they're just there; nice to have 'em.
#208
Things are heating up. Read on A-CL that the new Lexus GS will get heated/cooled seats, and 6-speed auto, among other things.
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Originally Posted by phile
Things are heating up. Read on A-CL that the new Lexus GS will get heated/cooled seats, and 6-speed auto, among other things.
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Sure you can
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please go check out the vehicle before you make that comment. i drove it on the same day, on the same track with MB E320, BMW 530i and Audi A6 2.7 T quattro. It beats every single one and price below the other 3 comparably equipped!
please go check out the vehicle before you make that comment. i drove it on the same day, on the same track with MB E320, BMW 530i and Audi A6 2.7 T quattro. It beats every single one and price below the other 3 comparably equipped!
#219
Originally Posted by ccheung
BTW, who said "significantly" below $50k anyway!
#220
I didn't expect it to be that much...at most, 48K was my guess.
#221
Oh yeah, just checked the demo on the Acura site. The headlights are also auto leveling.
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STILL worth the price in this segment at that number, but when the likes of Audi, Lexus, and Infiniti pricing slightly lower, the ignorant will take name/better bagels over exceptional quality/awesome refinement/technology. The A6 and GS really are nothing special. The same cannot be said about the M and RL from Infiniti and Acura, 2 very refined cars with tons of features for the price. Shame, I bet the fugly x 10 GS "Alien" crap will sell a lot more. Back to the topic, I expected 47 minimum, 48.5 max. 49 in my opinion is a reasonable price, but Acura isn't a Lexus. HOWEVER, this car just might set them up to be and establish reasoning for the price.
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Just goes to show that you can't believe anything before you see the car in the dealer showroom with an actual sticker. While you won't get the current 5-7K off sticker for a while I'd venture to guess that by this time next year, you'll be able to get a significant discount off the MSRP. In real terms the price of the RL went up 10K from 04 to 05!
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I don't think you will see "significant discounts " simply because production numbers are not enough. With most dealers receiving only 8-10 units per month(unlike TL 20-30 units per month). I think this will be a vehicle that has 2-3 month wait very quickly simply because it is such a revolutionary technilogical advance for Acura. Acura has a vehicle that will compete against any other vehicle in its class. No more "If it was only RWD" comments. To Acura, who doesn't count destination when commenting on MSRP, $1100 dollars is significant. It's like a customer telling a salesman he wants a payment under 300 dollars, the customer is thinking 250 and the salesman is thinking 295. it is all perception. Our dealership is selling into December shipment already, with no brochures, cars or anything. I like the cars chances.
#227
Not to be a jerk, but I'm not sure I believe this is the "real" price of the RL. I'll believe it when I see it on Hondanews.com. It just doesn't correlate with what Acura has said about the pricing. ccheung, didn't your dealer give this price to you? If so, we know how reliable and accurate dealerships can be.
With that said, the RL is a very nice car and probably worth $50k, but it's still more than many people would expect to pay for an Acura sedan that isn't significantly bigger or more powerful than the TL. For approx. $15k more than a TL w/ NAV you get slightly more horsepower, real time traffic updates, more voice commands, additional power controls, sunshades, adaptive headlights, real wood trim and the big one...SH-AWD.
I personally think I would be just as happy driving a $37-38k TL w/ SH-AWD (Acura, make this car!! ). Just my .
With that said, the RL is a very nice car and probably worth $50k, but it's still more than many people would expect to pay for an Acura sedan that isn't significantly bigger or more powerful than the TL. For approx. $15k more than a TL w/ NAV you get slightly more horsepower, real time traffic updates, more voice commands, additional power controls, sunshades, adaptive headlights, real wood trim and the big one...SH-AWD.
I personally think I would be just as happy driving a $37-38k TL w/ SH-AWD (Acura, make this car!! ). Just my .
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Even if the MSRP is $47K that will still be almost 10K more than some people paid for 04s. The real test will be around May of next year when all of the competition will have their models out (and the inital rush will be over).
#229
That's the real price, Acura's press release stated it also.
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Acura sold slightly over 9k 2004 Rls. it is an outdated vehicle. Most deal were leases. You can't compare the 2 vehicle in any aspect theonly thing shared is engine displacement (not engine) and the name of the vehicle. All I get at my dealership is Lexus ,Audi and BMW customers waiting for this car.
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Originally Posted by JeffS
Does that include freight??
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I was just one of the early birds logon to Acura Interactive Network last night and got the info. Please go experience this car before you make a decision whether it's worth the money, especially the state of the art new technologies!
#238
Originally Posted by ccheung
I have been with Acura for 5 years. Acura has not put a disapointing new model in the market since 1999!
Originally Posted by ccheung
$49,479. I hope everyone is happy now!
45k should have been the deal. At 50k, people will be happy with their E320s. Shit you might be able to squeeze a V-8 GS 430, M45 there.
If AWD were so appreciated, the A-6 would be tops in it's class since 1998.
50k is too much. Period. I guess we'll see.
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Again, please go drive the car and understand the new technologies before you make this statement and being ignorant won't help!
BTW, I personally drive a 2003 Acura CLS 6-speed. I enjoy it very much! Just the market and vehicle plateform changed so Acura discontinued the CL. Please do some research!
Again, please go drive the car and understand the new technologies before you make this statement and being ignorant won't help!
BTW, I personally drive a 2003 Acura CLS 6-speed. I enjoy it very much! Just the market and vehicle plateform changed so Acura discontinued the CL. Please do some research!