I wasn't a fan when this car first hit the road in Japan and while I think it's a bit of a mess aesthetically, I cannot help but be gobsmacked by the amazing performance of the car.

Even at $100k (MSRP + some ADM dealers are charging), there's just nothing else like it on the road.

 

and there's really nothing else you want to do to this... people talk about "modding" it... tappin' into the ECU, aftermarket wheels, WHY?!?! as if it's not fast enough... even if you can make it go faster, most people (if not ALL of them) who owns this car won't be able to push it to the limits anyway, so what's the point??!!... and the wheels, I personally LIKE the wheels... but fine, some people say it's kinda plain... well, keep in mind, everything about this car, every single inch serves a purpose (in function and design), replace the wheels? well, you better hope they'll stand up to pressure.

 

Not to mention with the obvious untold sums Nissan spent engineering this thing, I don't believe some dork in a self storage unit somewhere is going to come up with something better.

 

MAN, that sux about the accident... I hate when ppl tailgate me in fear of something like this happening.

 

i still have mixed feelings about GTR.. no stick? i dunno...

 

No stick, no dice

 

Here are the numbers: 2 seats only, 520 hp @ 6500 rpm, 440 lb.-ft. of torque all the way from 3200–5200 rpm, 3615 lbs., 'Ring laps quicker than 7:30, $130,000 MSRP, early 2009.

So the car will lose its back seat and enough other stuff to shed 200 pounds, will get an extra 40 advertised horses, cost almost twice as much as the current model and lap the Nordschleife faster than a Porsche 997 GT2. We had that number as low as 7:25 recently, which is just insane. We're guessing there will be enough people that will wait for this model to hit U.S. shores when it debuts in early 2009, but even more who will think they can duplicate the recipe for far fewer dollars and a regular old GT-R.

 

More pics of the Spec-V...

 

HOLY SHIT!!! trev0006 actually posted a reply to a thread he didn't started!!!

 

Those numbers are

...too bad the car doesn't do nothing for me in the area of looks.

 

the improvements do not even come close to warranting a DOUBLING in price. WTF seriously.

 

..but it's the GTR...the greatest car man has ever made!!!!!!! :wink:

 

could you imagine if they put all of the GT-R's performance and technology into the body of a 300ZX TT... WOW. now what a car THAT would be...

 

Nissan sells the current GTR for a loss. It's a loss leader for Nissan. It goes to show you what the real cost of the GTR would be if Nissan wanted to make a profit off of it.

 

Well, how much is a 911 GT2...?

If you put it in that perspective, I don't see what the big deal in the doubling of price is either.





Not that I'd buy the Spec V...since the regular is good enough.

 

I don't think it "shows" anything. Unless of course, you know how much, exactly, it costs to make a GT-R, both versions.

 

apples and oranges.

 

Oh...I get it. So, howabout Nissan just sells that car to BMW or something and ask them to rebadge it as the BMW GT-R...will it suddenly look 100000X hotter and be worthy of the pricetag...?

 

Nissan admits that the GTR is selling for a loss at the MSRP. 40 hp, a bit of suspension tuning, and some weight loss don't equal double the original MSRP. The ZR1 is looking looking like a bargain compared to this.

 

Very well said.

 

Sorry to dissapoint, but he actually created a new thread in Car Talk and I merged it with this one.

Maybe one day he'll learn that Auto News goes in the Auto News section and perhaps even find the search button.

 

no, that's not it. and, as I have said before in this and other threads, my impression of the car would not change, if it had another badge on it.

 

you seemed to be insinuating that the V-spec gives an indication of the actual cost of making a GT-R. I am asking, do you have any real evidence that gives you this impression.

 

It certainly does. Like I've said twice, Nissan has publicly stated that at the current MSRP of 70K they are losing money. How much money? I have no clue and probably no one does beside Nissan insiders.

I highly doubt that Nissan put 60K worth of modifications into the Spec V. What you are most likely seeing is a correction in price in order to regain development costs.

 

So, what is your impression of this car again...?

 

good enough.

 

you are such an instigator. I left "those" details out, on purpose. I don't think anyone is dying to hear how I feel about this car, again.

 

I don't give a crap what badge is on it. If it actually had a Porsche badge on it, I'd happen to think its the ugliest Porsche that Porsche has ever made.

I'm guessing extensive use of CF body panels to shed all that weight... last I read, the regular GT-R is mainly steel construction. CF is pretty expensive too.

At this point, all I can really say is I like the wheels. And imagine how the performance will be now that its shed 200 lbs!



I've always said that I'd really like the GT-R if only it had the looks of the G37, and a manual transmission.

 

I just don't understand why all of these "car enthusiasts" are so worried about how the thing looks? I think the Zonda is a terrible looking car but its still incredible. Honestly, the F430 and Koeniggssiiiegggeeeggggwhatever CCX are also ugly but they are tremendous cars. There seems to be this double standard for the GT-R (probably because its just a Nissan) that even though its performance is astonishing, its ugly so who cares. I don't think its a great looking car but I would have one anyway because it is a fantastic performance value.

 

^ Whoa...really? I think the Pagani Zonda and Koenigsegg CCX are absolutely gorgeous. And no, not because of the badge either...

They could be Ford or Kia Zonda/CCX and I'd still them until I'm dry.

 

uh.. ok. imo a car enthusiast worries MUCH MUCH MORE about how a car looks!! A "regular" person doesn't really care what a car looks like, aside from like, very obvious features. A car is a car, right? Point A to point B.

fwiw, I love how the Zonda looks, the F430 is not my favorite Ferrari looks-wise but I don't mind its looks, and I absolutely love the looks of the CCX. While we're on topic, I was never too crazy about the looks of the original Gallardo, but I am very impressed with the updates on the LP560-4, it looks pretty hot now. Just an example that comes to my head.
read what I said regarding the 300ZX TT above. I will admit I liked Nissan's older designs better. Like, a LOT better.

 

Um.... serious? Did you even see the thread "would you buy an ugly car"? Most people said they wouldn't even drive a car that they couldn't stand looks-wise. Same here. Just accept the fact that there are people in the world who don't love the GT-R and simply won't no matter how much you try and argue it. From what it sounds like, if the Pontiac Aztek had the performance and price of a GT-R, you'd be all over it. After all, car enthusiasts shouldn't give a crap about how a car looks.

And just for good measure, I've always liked the way the Zonda, 430 and Koenigseggs look. Doesn't hurt the fact that they are bad ass exotics either. On the other hand, the GT-R's looks and its the sole transmission option doesn't do anything for me.

I don't like a single thing about the GT-R's looks aside from the interior (which most people don't like) and the rear.

 

F430 ugly?

I agree with majin ssj eric. Most average car buyers care more about looks than they do anything else.

 

you could argue it both ways..

 

 

Thats the difference. The 300zx, zonda, f430, etc... are all proper sports cars and LOOK the part. Those cars have sleek front ends, unlike the GTR.

The GTR looks more of a grand tourer being so tall. Nothing sexy about it but i respect its performance.

As a car guy i want to be able to park my car and start walking away then turn around and look at it saying "damn my car is sexy". You know we all do it.

 

So what do you people think regarding the price (official or not) of the V-spec model? In other words, do you think the V-spec model is worth an extra $60k over the normal GTR?

 

oink.









Thats my problem with the GTR, like I mentioned in the other thread... i just wished it wasnt so tall. Also wished the hood had a more of a sleeker design. To me it looks too much of a grand tourer and not a sports car.

 

my friend saw one on the road the other day after leaving a nissan dealership.. he said it looked like tim burton's batmobile.

:badass:

 

...from the other thread....

and

Those pics you posted just made the GT-R even uglier in my mind, and made the NSX even sexier than it already is! The only saving grace..... the only thing I like about the front end of the GT-R is those side strakes on the corners of the front bumper. I can only imagine how nasty it would look without em....

Hell I bet my Camaro would even look smallish next to the GT-R.... and I think my car is huge.

No way. The Z06 starts at $70k and for another $30k you get nearly all CF body panels, more downforce, a built LS3 with the works, an innovative supercharger not yet used in any other cars (the combination of which adds up to 120 horsepower) magnetic ride control shocks, etc.

For the V-Spec you get a gutted out car, probably CF body panels and decontenting, an extra 40 horsepower kick in the pants, probably some additional suspension tuning, more downforce, etc.

I'm normally not this pessimistic unless its regarding Acuras but I gotta balance out the rampant fanboyism.