Hyundai: Genesis News
#2561
The sizzle in the Steak
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Gas prices were LOW a year ago.
...and please read what I wrote.....it's not just gas prices.....it's your lack of buying power that is going to be the kicker.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- American consumers saw prices rise on everything from rent to food to gas last month, as inflation pressures around the world creep higher.
The U.S. Consumer Price Index, a key measure of inflation, increased 1.5% over the past 12 months ending in December, up from 1.1% in November, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said.
On a monthly basis, CPI rose 0.5% in December, from 0.1% growth the previous month -- the largest monthly move since June 2009. Economists surveyed by Briefing.com had expected a 0.4% rise in December.
Most of that increase was due to gasoline prices, which surged 8.5% in December alone, as commodities rallied.
While the increase is a sign that the economy is picking up steam, higher prices can eat into the purchasing power of Americans at a time when unemployment is still high and wages are barely growing.
"It is disconcerting that inflation is starting to accelerate, and you have to wonder, with gas prices moving above $3 a gallon, whether the rate of inflation will continue to escalate," said Bernard Baumohl, chief global economist with The Economic Outlook Group.
The U.S. Consumer Price Index, a key measure of inflation, increased 1.5% over the past 12 months ending in December, up from 1.1% in November, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said.
On a monthly basis, CPI rose 0.5% in December, from 0.1% growth the previous month -- the largest monthly move since June 2009. Economists surveyed by Briefing.com had expected a 0.4% rise in December.
Most of that increase was due to gasoline prices, which surged 8.5% in December alone, as commodities rallied.
While the increase is a sign that the economy is picking up steam, higher prices can eat into the purchasing power of Americans at a time when unemployment is still high and wages are barely growing.
"It is disconcerting that inflation is starting to accelerate, and you have to wonder, with gas prices moving above $3 a gallon, whether the rate of inflation will continue to escalate," said Bernard Baumohl, chief global economist with The Economic Outlook Group.
Inflation....and maybe even worse: stagflation is knocking at the door.
#2562
Senior Moderator
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Gas prices were LOW a year ago.
...and please read what I wrote.....it's not just gas prices.....it's your lack of buying power that is going to be the kicker.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/14/news...tion/index.htm
Inflation....and maybe even worse: stagflation is knocking at the door.
And i DID read what you wrote, i was commenting on ONE part of it. I didnt know i was required to respond to it all.
#2563
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ Your not required to....but pegging your whole argument on just gas prices alone doesn't get down to the real issue. ![Shrug](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif)
Weak dollar, inflation, stagflation is the root of the problems.
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Weak dollar, inflation, stagflation is the root of the problems.
#2564
Safety Car
how is that just a hyundai's problem then?
you're the one who put out the gas reasoning and now adding up to back up your statement.. but all those things you are adding are not just problem of hyundai and their V8 but more like industry and consumer in general
you're the one who put out the gas reasoning and now adding up to back up your statement.. but all those things you are adding are not just problem of hyundai and their V8 but more like industry and consumer in general
#2565
The sizzle in the Steak
Industry
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#2568
Fahrvergnügen'd
I wouldn't quote CNN.com on anything ... They're consistently two to three weeks late on most news ... Unless it's something breaking like the Giffords shooting.
Someone will mention something here in Car Talk in passing and then a couple of weeks later it shows up on CNN.com ... The website is terrible.
That said, I don't think anyone is really terrified of inflation or stagflation just yet.
And if that were in fact the case, now is a better time to buy the Genesis before we have to start printing these:
Someone will mention something here in Car Talk in passing and then a couple of weeks later it shows up on CNN.com ... The website is terrible.
That said, I don't think anyone is really terrified of inflation or stagflation just yet.
And if that were in fact the case, now is a better time to buy the Genesis before we have to start printing these:
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#2570
Lest we forget, it doesn't matter if its a turbocharged or supercharged V8 or an N/A V8.... if it has 400+ HP its not exactly going to be a fuel miser. The Corvette is an exception to the norm, really.
My friend's Evo X, which is relatively highly tuned for a stock inline-4 got 18 mpg on average when it was stock. If you manipulate a turbo V6 to put out 375+ horsepower, well you get my point.
My friend's Evo X, which is relatively highly tuned for a stock inline-4 got 18 mpg on average when it was stock. If you manipulate a turbo V6 to put out 375+ horsepower, well you get my point.
#2571
Punk Rocker
My only point is there are plenty of buyers like me that would gladly sacrifice the extra $20 or so per fillup to enjoy a 400+ hp beast of a car....
#2572
The sizzle in the Steak
#2573
The sizzle in the Steak
No politics here....just economics.
Small vehicles sales on the rise and expected to rise.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2011-to-...ces-surge.html
....again I love the idea of a V8....however I don't think it's such a bright idea sales wise.
Small vehicles sales on the rise and expected to rise.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2011-to-...ces-surge.html
....again I love the idea of a V8....however I don't think it's such a bright idea sales wise.
Last edited by Moog-Type-S; 01-17-2011 at 10:35 AM.
#2574
Senior Moderator
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Last edited by fsttyms1; 01-17-2011 at 11:05 AM.
#2575
There is practically no chance against $90K avg price Audi A8. Those buyers will not care about $6 gas. Even BMW 7 is downsized to V6.
Last edited by SSFTSX; 01-17-2011 at 11:30 AM.
#2576
The sizzle in the Steak
^^
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#2577
Punk Rocker
#2578
_____ like a rabbit
#2579
The sizzle in the Steak
#2580
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This is a V8 in a Genesis coupe we're talking about here.
#2581
The sizzle in the Steak
I love the V8 ![Shrug](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif)
However I think it's ill-advised.
When/if they sit on the lots, I fear that this will cause Hyundai to go have a knee-jerk reaction and run in the Honda direction.
...and that would be very sad.
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However I think it's ill-advised.
When/if they sit on the lots, I fear that this will cause Hyundai to go have a knee-jerk reaction and run in the Honda direction.
...and that would be very sad.
#2582
Banned
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Refresh looks good as well...
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Here's story...
http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-c...yundai-genesis
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...mage_large.jpg
Here's story...
http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-c...yundai-genesis
#2584
The sizzle in the Steak
Thanks for starting a Genesis thread!!!
It's been long overdue!
It's been long overdue!
#2585
Senior Moderator
Threads Merged.
#2586
Senior Moderator
Cool, I will definitely put this on my list of go test drives.
#2587
really hard to spot the differences
#2588
Senior Moderator
#2589
ahh very subtle changes. I kinda like the old front bumper better, with the smaller "smile" across it.
#2590
Race Director
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Can that look any closer to a 5 series?
Can that look any closer to a 5 series?
Last edited by biker; 01-17-2011 at 09:55 PM.
#2592
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I really don't think it does.
I mean...I can certainly see the lines where you are getting that from...but I don't think it really looks like a 5 series or would be mistaken for one. IMO, even from that view, it looks like a bigger 'couch on wheels' sedan whereas the 5 seems to have a tighter sportier feel.
#2593
I drive a Subata.
iTrader: (1)
Looks great!
#2596
Senior Moderator
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Hence why I got a gas-guzzling "SUV"...
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The FX35 would've been more than sufficient, to be honest...who the hey needs nearly 400HP and a V8 for mostly city driving?
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#2597
Senior Moderator
#2598
_____ like a rabbit
#2600
The sizzle in the Steak
Doesn't look any different from the current Genesis
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