Hyundai: Genesis News
04-29-2008, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Sec ... What were the materials like? Did the car appear to be worth $30k?
These where pre-production models as the car is still a few months away. The silver one was a Turbo-4, while the red model was a V6.
I gotta say the seats where nice and supportive and the car fit my 6'4" frame very, very nicely. I was shocked, as I don't seem to fit well in many asian automobiles. to Hyundai, looks as if this is going to be a great product for them.
BTW don't even make comments about the interior plastics as it was a pre-production model. Mmmmkay?!
I gotta say the seats where nice and supportive and the car fit my 6'4" frame very, very nicely. I was shocked, as I don't seem to fit well in many asian automobiles. to Hyundai, looks as if this is going to be a great product for them.
BTW don't even make comments about the interior plastics as it was a pre-production model. Mmmmkay?!
04-29-2008, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
I have to say I'm very intrigued by the coupe from the review I read in one of the car rags...
No doubt it has the looks...Quality is still a question in my book...
No doubt it has the looks...Quality is still a question in my book...
04-30-2008, 08:26 AM
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I am pretty darn sure the build quality of the Genesis (both interior and exterior) will be better than Acura TL. Genesis = Top Notch Build Quality - Made in Korea. TL = Built in USA I own the '06 TL 6MT and know how it is on the build quality.
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04-30-2008, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
I am pretty darn sure the build quality of the Genesis (both interior and exterior) will be better than Acura TL. Genesis = Top Notch Build Quality - Made in Korea. TL = Built in USA I own the '06 TL 6MT and know how it is on the build quality.
04-30-2008, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
I am pretty darn sure the build quality of the Genesis (both interior and exterior) will be better than Acura TL. Genesis = Top Notch Build Quality - Made in Korea. TL = Built in USA I own the '06 TL 6MT and know how it is on the build quality.
Not sure what planet your from, but Korea isnt well known for "Top Notch Build Quality". Nor is the US.
04-30-2008, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Americans can make good cars and you should know that working for Hyundai in Alabama!
Even more importantly, Genesis cars are not being built in America. They are being built in Ulsan, South Korea. That's not U.S......... is it?
Even more importantly, we are talking Genesis cars, not a entire line up of Korean cars. Let's keep in topic, the Genesis.... afterall, this is a Genesis thread... not a Sonata thread. Huge difference.
04-30-2008, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Ok, I believe you.
Not sure what planet your from, but Korea isnt well known for "Top Notch Build Quality". Nor is the US.
Not sure what planet your from, but Korea isnt well known for "Top Notch Build Quality". Nor is the US.
04-30-2008, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
I never said "Korean cars" are well known for "Top Notch Build Quality". I think, wait, I KNOW you are jumping into conclusions. There is a difference between "Korean Cars" and "Genesis cars". Please, please read the person's post carefully before making assumptions.
You know damn well what you were implying.See, this is exactly why I go off on threads like this. Blind nationalism bugs the shit out of me.
04-30-2008, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
Are they gonna offer nav on this thing???
Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
This Genesis sedan seems to be a full U.S. spec version with back-up camera, U.S. navigation system, etc.
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i think you're asking about the coupe...dunno. hope so.
04-30-2008, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
How about we hold off quality discussions until these things are for sale.
PA, how long do you suspect you'll have to wait to get one after you put your name down on the list?
and what kind of discounts do you get? just curious...
04-30-2008, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
and what kind of discounts do you get? just curious...
04-30-2008, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
First of all, I don't work for Hyundai.
Even more importantly, Genesis cars are not being built in America. They are being built in Ulsan, South Korea. That's not U.S......... is it?
Even more importantly, we are talking Genesis cars, not a entire line up of Korean cars. Let's keep in topic, the Genesis.... afterall, this is a Genesis thread... not a Sonata thread. Huge difference.
Even more importantly, Genesis cars are not being built in America. They are being built in Ulsan, South Korea. That's not U.S......... is it?
Even more importantly, we are talking Genesis cars, not a entire line up of Korean cars. Let's keep in topic, the Genesis.... afterall, this is a Genesis thread... not a Sonata thread. Huge difference.
You can't make a blanket statement like the Genesis will be better because it's not made in America when there are good cars made here.
04-30-2008, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I can't keep everyone straight ... ROFL ... My bad.
You can't make a blanket statement like the Genesis will be better because it's not made in America when there are good cars made here.
A lot of Japanese cars, namely Toyota and Honda, have gone down in build quality since they've been making them in America. There has been so many reports of transmission problems and other annoying issues. The interior also feels cheap when you examine them. To get a true well built cars you need to fly over to Japan and get a Honda or Toyota there. Or fly to Korea and pickup a Genesis if you want it now.
A lot of American cars are built like crap. Not all, but a lot of them, or say, majority of them. Don't get yourself too much pride being made in America. These union works are messed up man...
04-30-2008, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
It's aight.
Well, it's kind of 60% blanket statement...
A lot of Japanese cars, namely Toyota and Honda, have gone down in build quality since they've been making them in America. There has been so many reports of transmission problems and other annoying issues. The interior also feels cheap when you examine them. To get a true well built cars you need to fly over to Japan and get a Honda or Toyota there. Or fly to Korea and pickup a Genesis if you want it now.
A lot of American cars are built like crap. Not all, but a lot of them, or say, majority of them. Don't get yourself too much pride being made in America. These union works are messed up man...
Well, it's kind of 60% blanket statement...
A lot of Japanese cars, namely Toyota and Honda, have gone down in build quality since they've been making them in America. There has been so many reports of transmission problems and other annoying issues. The interior also feels cheap when you examine them. To get a true well built cars you need to fly over to Japan and get a Honda or Toyota there. Or fly to Korea and pickup a Genesis if you want it now.
A lot of American cars are built like crap. Not all, but a lot of them, or say, majority of them. Don't get yourself too much pride being made in America. These union works are messed up man...
04-30-2008, 01:32 PM
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The TSX, built completely in Japan, had its share of problems...People were ready to slit their wrists over rattles.
04-30-2008, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
The TSX, built completely in Japan, had its share of problems...People were ready to slit their wrists over rattles.
Even MORE importantly, rattles don't mean jack. It doesn't fall under mechanical failures such as engine and transmission like American cars have most of the time. The reason why you get rattles on the TSX is due to using more plastics and applied less of padding during the interior build process. It's the same with the Lexus IS250 and 350. They are made in Japan but has some rattles.
EVEN More and more importantly, having rattles doesn't mean it's a crap car. You get engine and transmission problem then it's called "crap" car.
Don't use rattle for an excuse.
Nice try though.
04-30-2008, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Not to mention people just associate the Accord with built in America and not because they've had to cut costs due to the busted fucking dollar.
But ultimately, having engine and transmission problems due to crap design/engineering, and craftsmanship in America, they result in f#@k'ed up car....
04-30-2008, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
Tell me something I don't know. I knew TSX is built in Japan. I found that out 2 years ago.
Even MORE importantly, rattles don't mean jack. It doesn't fall under mechanical failures such as engine and transmission like American cars have most of the time. The reason why you get rattles on the TSX is due to using more plastics and applied less of padding during the interior build process. It's the same with the Lexus IS250 and 350. They are made in Japan but has some rattles.
EVEN More and more importantly, having rattles doesn't mean it's a crap car. You get engine and transmission problem then it's called "crap" car.
Don't use rattle for an excuse. Nice try though.
Even MORE importantly, rattles don't mean jack. It doesn't fall under mechanical failures such as engine and transmission like American cars have most of the time. The reason why you get rattles on the TSX is due to using more plastics and applied less of padding during the interior build process. It's the same with the Lexus IS250 and 350. They are made in Japan but has some rattles.
EVEN More and more importantly, having rattles doesn't mean it's a crap car. You get engine and transmission problem then it's called "crap" car.
Don't use rattle for an excuse.
Nice try though. Damn you for making me agree with jokerocket.
04-30-2008, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
Tell me something I don't know. I knew TSX is built in Japan. I found that out 2 years ago.
Even MORE importantly, rattles don't mean jack. It doesn't fall under mechanical failures such as engine and transmission like American cars have most of the time. The reason why you get rattles on the TSX is due to using more plastics and applied less of padding during the interior build process. It's the same with the Lexus IS250 and 350. They are made in Japan but has some rattles.
EVEN More and more importantly, having rattles doesn't mean it's a crap car. You get engine and transmission problem then it's called "crap" car.
Don't use rattle for an excuse. Nice try though.
Even MORE importantly, rattles don't mean jack. It doesn't fall under mechanical failures such as engine and transmission like American cars have most of the time. The reason why you get rattles on the TSX is due to using more plastics and applied less of padding during the interior build process. It's the same with the Lexus IS250 and 350. They are made in Japan but has some rattles.
EVEN More and more importantly, having rattles doesn't mean it's a crap car. You get engine and transmission problem then it's called "crap" car.
Don't use rattle for an excuse.
Nice try though.
04-30-2008, 05:22 PM
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BACK ON TOPIC DAMN IT!
Can anyone spot Flappy Paddles on this bad boy? (flame suit on) but I think paddles would be a great minor addition to the car.
Can anyone spot Flappy Paddles on this bad boy? (flame suit on) but I think paddles would be a great minor addition to the car.
04-30-2008, 05:23 PM
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04-30-2008, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
Here comes the ultimate and coolest statement. I would take a rattle car over a rattle-free car known to have engine and transmission problems any day. Rattle is nothing........
04-30-2008, 10:12 PM
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^ I never said I don't lie..... 
That yella Coupe looks nice. Got some more pics? I wanna see the rest. Ya got some pics with cute Korean gals too?
That yella Coupe looks nice. Got some more pics? I wanna see the rest. Ya got some pics with cute Korean gals too?
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04-30-2008, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
PA, how long do you suspect you'll have to wait to get one after you put your name down on the list?
and what kind of discounts do you get? just curious...
We have two types of discount programs. One is for Team Members and direct family members and the second program is for family and friends. The former offers a rather considerable discount whereas the second one offers typically a couple of points below invoice.
To answer other questions -- Yes, this is the actual vehicle used at the NY auto show. No, I have been too busy to get the pictures up. But I see that someone posted pictures of the red and silver duo and that's pretty much it. You won't be seeing anything new in my photos.
My opinion on foreign brand cars built in the U.S. - it depends on the plant and their quality of operation. Just because it is built in the U.S. it does not mean their quality is inferior to their counterparts built overseas. Our Alabama plant and Asan plant in Korea are sister plants and one is not considerably better or worse than the other. The Santa Fe we build in Alabama was recently chosen as a Best Pick by Consumer Reports over competitor vehicles from Toyota, Honda, Nissan, GM, Ford, Chrysler, Mazda, etc.
Our Ulsan plant is the single largest manufacturing facility in the world, bar none, with an annual production capacity of 1.6 million vehicles with docking stations on site for cargo ships exporting to over 190 countries directly from there. Their quality is top notch.
Keep in mind that whether a plant is located here or overseas, everybody cares about quality. It just depends on each plant and their operation. Some have their stuff together; others need to make improvements.
For instance, GM produces their trucks in Canada, Mexico and the U.S. My first car was a '97 Tahoe LT and the same model was built at those 3 different locations all with different levels of quality. Toss them dice and take a gamble. Or be smart and look at the VIN for production location before you choose the actual car you want to buy.
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05-01-2008, 11:57 AM
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Finally Hyundai has taken one step farther.... by using a chrome grill on the Coupe. That will make the car 300% better. The cheapness will be reduced by impressive 300%. Good move.
.... and thanks for the pics, yohan81718.
.... and thanks for the pics, yohan81718.