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Old 03-26-2008, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
You could buy something cheap and used that might not decrease in value significantly and just bridge it til the Genesis coupe hits.
Yea I was thinking about that too. Maybe get me something real cheap a$$ mini pickup truck and use that till the Genesis Coupe comes out... that way I have a second vehicle and would be useful if I need to move something.




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By Oct, 08 TSX's won't be available since the 09 comes out in a few weeks. The 09 TL will likely be available by then and I'm sure 08's will still be available as well.
'09 TL and TSX... in terms of design. Well, i guess the design on the TL hasn't been concluded yet from Acura? So far the pictures I have seen they are ugly. If I'm going Acura I going to stick with the '08 model.


The Genesis Coupe has been getting a lot interest. I'll be keeping eye on this..
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
Yea I was thinking about that too. Maybe get me something real cheap a$$ mini pickup truck and use that till the Genesis Coupe comes out... that way I have a second vehicle and would be useful if I need to move something.





'09 TL and TSX... in terms of design. Well, i guess the design on the TL hasn't been concluded yet from Acura? So far the pictures I have seen they are ugly. If I'm going Acura I going to stick with the '08 model.


The Genesis Coupe has been getting a lot interest. I'll be keeping eye on this..
My advice is don't do something because you HAVE to ... Buy something because you want it. You'll regret it if you buy because you have to do something.
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
As much as I'm interested in Genesis Coupe I'm afraid it will not get my money since my Acura lease will expire on Oct this year. I have to get me a new car at that time. Too bad the Coupe won't be out this year.

This only gives me the following options. Go get:

- Hyundai Genesis Sedan V8
- '08 Acura TL Type-S 6MT
- '08 Acura TSX 6MT


I donno man.... i'm sure the Genesis sedan will be very nice in quality and luxury but it might be too luxury for me.

I see that you've finally come around, and that you now realize how sexy the Genesis Coupe is!

Yeah and I'm with you on the Genesis Sedan; great looking luxury car, but I think I'm a bit young for a VIP car like that.
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
As much as I'm interested in Genesis Coupe I'm afraid it will not get my money since my Acura lease will expire on Oct this year. I have to get me a new car at that time. Too bad the Coupe won't be out this year.

This only gives me the following options. Go get:

- Hyundai Genesis Sedan V8
- '08 Acura TL Type-S 6MT
- '08 Acura TSX 6MT


I donno man.... i'm sure the Genesis sedan will be very nice in quality and luxury but it might be too luxury for me.
G8 GT?? could that be a possibility
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Press release...

Hyundai unveiled Genesis Coupe, the new benchmark for attainable 300-horsepower sport coupes, during a press conference at the New York International Auto Show today. The 2010 Genesis Coupe is a purpose-built rear-wheel drive sport coupe featuring two performance-focused engines – a 212-horsepower (est.), 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine and a range-topping all-aluminum, 306-horsepower (est.), DOHC 3.8-liter V6 engine. Genesis Coupe is scheduled to join the Hyundai lineup in the spring of 2009.

GENESIS COUPE HIGHLIGHTS

• Hyundai’s second rear-wheel drive performance car
• 306 horsepower (est.)from enhanced 3.8-liter V6 from Genesis sedan
• Std. 212 horsepower (est.) turbocharged, intercooled inline four cylinder
• Genesis Coupe arrives in the spring of 2009 as a 2010 model

Following the introduction earlier this year of the rear-wheel drive Genesis sport sedan, Genesis Coupe is Hyundai’s most dynamic performance car ever and the second consecutive all-new model introduction from Hyundai appealing directly to the car enthusiast. Genesis Coupe uses the same flexible rear-wheel drive architecture originally developed for the Genesis sport sedan.

“We think our entry-level Genesis Coupe 2.0t, with its unique combination of rear-wheel drive and four-cylinder turbo power, offers an intriguing alternative to existing front-wheel drive sport coupes,” said John Krafcik, vice president, product development and strategic planning, Hyundai Motor America. “The 3.8-liter version of Genesis Coupe takes driving to an even higher level, rivaling the capability of premium-performance coupes like the Infiniti G37.”

DESIGN PROCESS

2010 Genesis Coupe Genesis Coupe was shown as a concept at the 2007 Los Angeles Auto Show and its transformation from concept to production reveals that its signature design features have emerged intact.

“The mission for Genesis Coupe was to create a pure performance car with a design that would capture the imagination of hardcore automotive enthusiasts,” said Joel Piaskowski, chief designer at the Hyundai Design Center in Irvine, Calif. “With its aggressive look from just about any angle, I think we have been able to do that.”

Genesis Coupe is also unmistakably linked to several Hyundai concept cars. The powerful curves, undulating beltline, surface detail, and “Z” bodyside lines come straight from the HCD9 Talus and the HCD8 sport coupe concepts.

Designers used the Day Light Opening (DLO -- a designer's term for the side glass) from the 2006 HCD9 Talus Concept on the Genesis Coupe.

The 2004 HCD8 sport tourer concept’s sensual body forms influenced the overall design direction of Genesis Coupe.

Genesis Coupe’s arching roofline and tapering greenhouse highlight the exterior profile and emphasize the car’s broad shoulders and wide stance. The Genesis Coupe’s rocker panels are drawn close to the ground making the bodysides extra thick and the daylight opening thin, allowing the wheels to be slammed up into bulging fenders. To complete the aggressive sports car look, the depth between the fenders and the greenhouse has been maximized.

Large openings in the front fascia allow for better engine breathing. The dual exhaust tips integrated into the rear fascia with surrounding blackout repeat the design theme of the front fascia graphic.

Genesis Coupe rides on standard 18-inch alloy wheels or optional 19-inch wheels, both delivering a bold stance and aggressive handling.

INTERIOR DESIGN

In keeping with its mission to be the most exciting, attainable sport coupe on the road, the Genesis Coupe boasts a cockpit designed to enhance the driving experience. An information display screen features an outside temperature reading and audio system information. Analog gauges include a large speedometer and tachometer positioned so the driver can immediately access critical driving information. The instrument cluster features Hyundai’s signature blue gauge illumination.

Bucket front seats with large side bolsters offer excellent lateral support for enthusiastic driving. High-quality seating surfaces range from full black fabric on the Genesis Coupe GS and GT, to optional full black or brown leather on the GT, to red cloth inserts with black leather bolsters on the SE.

Among the other refinements are an Infinity audio system and two-stage front seat warmers. Genesis Coupe also offers the convenience of a Smart Key and push-button starter.

REAR-WHEEL-DRIVE ARCHITECTURE

Genesis Coupe’s body shell is rich in ultra-high-tensile steel. Genesis Coupe is lighter than the Infiniti G37, and its chassis is also 24 percent stiffer in bending rigidity than the BMW E46 M3. Rear-wheel drive provides a 55:45 front/rear weight distribution.

POWERTRAINS

Two engines infuse Genesis Coupe with performance. The 3.8-liter Lambda DOHC V6 engine delivers an estimated 306 horsepower (310 horsepower using premium fuel) and 263 lb.-ft. of torque on regular unleaded. This engine will launch the Genesis Coupe from 0 to 60 miles per hour in under six seconds. To maximize the power band, the 3.8-liter engine utilizes Continuously Variable Valve Timing (CVVT) on intake cam shafts and a new Variable Intake System (VIS) that helps cylinders breathe efficiently at both low and high RPM. The better breathing results in outstanding off-the-line acceleration and passing performance, and remarkable fuel efficiency. The V6 engine uses an alloy block and cylinder heads for lighter weight and thermal efficiency, and features timing chains with no scheduled maintenance.

The turbocharged, intercooled 2.0-liter DOHC inline four-cylinder benefits from CVVT on both the intake and exhaust camshafts. The 2.0-liter turbo generates an estimated 212 horsepower (223 horsepower using premium fuel) and 217 lb.-ft. of torque. It also features a cast-aluminum cylinder block and cylinder head. Both engines feature a free flowing dual cat-back exhaust and an available limited slip differential to put the power to the ground.

SPORT-TUNED SUSPENSION

Genesis Coupe employs a MacPherson strut dual-link front suspension and a five-link rear suspension setup. The front suspension is mounted to the body via a solid subframe which is lighter and stronger than a multi-piece component would be. To help reduce body roll and tune the Genesis Coupe’s at-the-limit handling for maximum predictability, 23-mm diameter front and 18-mm diameter rear stabilizer bars are used.

While all Genesis Coupe models offer a fun and sporty driving experience, the high-performance Genesis Coupe SE is a most willing partner for the true enthusiast. The SE’s track-tuned sport suspension features a stiffer front spring rate, stiffer rear spring rate and unique shock valving. Genesis Coupe SE delivers an increase in roll control over the GS. Superb structural rigidity sets the foundation for precisely-tuned handling performance in all Genesis Coupes.

STEERING

Hydraulic rack-and-pinion steering with a quick ratio gear delivers both linearity and agility. The steering is also engine-RPM sensing.

TRANSMISSIONS

Both engines are mated to a standard six-speed manual transmission. The Genesis Coupe 2.0t offers an optional five-speed automatic with SHIFTRONIC® while the 3.8-liter V6 offers a ZF six-speed automatic transmission with SHIFTRONIC to handle the additional torque.

Drivers can access the SHIFTRONIC® feature by moving the gear selector into a separate gate. Pushing the selector forward or pulling it rearward will shift the transmission up or down sequentially, adding to driver control. A clear LCD readout on the instrument panel shows the gear that’s in use.

HIGH PERFORMANCE BRAKING SYSTEMS

Brembo four-piston calipers clamp down on 13.4-inch front brake rotors and 13-inch rear rotors on SE models. All other models get substantial 12.6-inch front ventilated rotors and 12.4-inch rotors in the rear with floating single piston calipers.

INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGIES

The 2010 Genesis Coupe offers Xenon high-intensity discharge (HID) headlights. The advantages of HID headlamps include greater lighting power, daylight-type lighting and reduced power consumption. In addition, the cut lines of the new HID headlights are extremely precise, providing maximum nighttime visibility without distracting other drivers.

Music lovers will welcome the 2010 Genesis Coupe’s standard auxiliary input jacks (3.5 mm mini-jack and USB input) to accommodate and charge audio devices such as iPods®. When an iPod or flash drive is connected through the USB port, located in the center storage compartment, not only does it play music through the vehicle’s audio system, but it also charges the iPod and allows the driver to access tracks with the steering wheel audio controls. This system also allows both driver and passengers to easily view song/artist/title information and control the music from the audio head unit rather than only the iPod itself.

SEGMENT-LEADING SAFETY TECHNOLOGIES

In keeping with Hyundai’s focus on offering segment-leading standard safety technologies across its lineup, the 2010 Genesis Coupe includes a wide range of both active and passive safety features. Standard safety technology includes driver and front passenger advanced frontal airbags, along with front seat-mounted side airbags, side air curtains and active front head restraints.

Genesis Coupe has strong unibody construction, along with front and rear crumple zones, bodyside reinforcements, and five-mph energy-absorbing bumpers. The hood also includes buckling creases and safety stops.

The front seatbelts have pretensioners and force limiters, and the rear seats feature LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children), which make affixing child safety seats easier.

All Genesis Coupe models feature standard four-channel ABS with Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) to optimize brake performance under various dynamic loading conditions. The system also includes Brake Assist, which provides maximum ABS-level braking force when a panic stop is detected.

Electronic Stability Control (ESC), one of the industry’s most effective life-saving technologies, is standard in all Genesis Coupes. Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) studies suggest vehicles equipped with ESC experience 56 percent fewer fatalities in single-vehicle crashes.

THREE DISTINCT TRIM LEVELS

The Genesis Coupe is offered in three trim levels: the stylish and affordable GS, the premium-sport GT featuring the 3.8-liter V6, and the high-performance SE, available with either the 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine or the 3.8-liter V6 engine.

GENESIS COUPE GS (Preliminary packaging subject to change)

Key Standard Equipment:
• 2.0-liter turbocharged, intercooled four-cylinder engine
• Electronic Stability Control
• Traction Control System
• ABS
• Tire Pressure Monitoring System
• Front, side, side air curtain air bags
• Active front head restraints
• Manual A/C
• Keyless entry
• Power windows, door locks, and mirrors
• AM/FM/XM/CD Player/USB/iPod connectivity
• Steering wheel audio controls
• Cruise control
• Vanity mirror illumination
• Bluetooth

GENESIS COUPE GT (Preliminary packaging subject to change)

GS equipment Plus:
• 3.8-liter DOHC V6
• Leather steering wheel / Shift knob
• Metalgrain /chrome interior accents
• Automatic temperature control
• Fog lamps
• Premium door sill plates
• Trip computer
• Chrome front fascia accents
• Auto light control

GENESIS COUPE SE (Preliminary packaging subject to change)

Unique SE equipment:
• 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder or 3.8-liter DOHC V6
• HID headlights
• Aluminum pedals
• Manual A/C
• 19-inch alloy wheels
• High performance Bridgestone Potenza RE050A summer tires
• Brembo braking system with monobloc four-piston calipers
• SE track-tuned suspension / front strut brace
• Limited-slip differential
• Black leather bolsters / red cloth insert seats
• Rear spoiler
• Aero wiper blades
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Yummy, the pics are nice, but the text was posted last wednesday (see page 4)... The original press release was done during NAIAS...
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Yummy, the pics are nice, but the text was posted last wednesday (see page 4)... The original press release was done during NAIAS...
Oh...oopsh on the repost. Posting in between training sessions pwns me.
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Oh...oopsh on the repost. Posting in between training sessions pwns me.
So that's where you've been...
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
So that's where you've been...


ERP training and then design sessions all of March and now all of April from Vancouver...
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Oh...oopsh on the repost. Posting in between training sessions pwns me.
Somebody needs mod training
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Somebody needs mod training
Shaddap. At least I don't miss AM threads.
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Shaddap. At least I don't miss AM threads.
I may be late...but I don't miss them
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
I may be late...but I don't miss them
Well, pfft...reposting some car info is not as bad as being late for an AM thread.

At least I'm not pulling a trev0006.
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You guys think they'll offer Paddle Shifters on the slushboxes?
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
You guys think they'll offer Paddle Shifters on the slushboxes?
My question would be, "Is it worth paddle shifters?"

Paddle shifters on GM's 800-year old 4-speed auto is a gimmic.

Paddle shifters on a modern 6/7-speed SMG?
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the TSX has paddle shifters.
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
the TSX has paddle shifters.
My point exactly
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Originally Posted by charliemike
My question would be, "Is it worth paddle shifters?"

Paddle shifters on GM's 800-year old 4-speed auto is a gimmic.

Paddle shifters on a modern 6/7-speed SMG?
I've heard very very good things about the 6 speed ZF transmission that the V6 Genesis will have. I believe it's the same transmission that the 335i has, and I think Edmunds said it was one of the best traditional automatics in the world. So yes, I think offering paddle shifters with the 6 speed ZF transmission would be worth it... to me anyway.
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=119360


We think the optional six-speed automatic is the better setup for this car, though.

This new ZF-engineered transmission makes very quick, precisely timed shifts in the automatic mode, and shift paddles mounted on the steering wheel let you shift manually. It's interesting that a company known for offering manual gearboxes in nearly all of its models has introduced an automatic so good that it nearly makes a stick shift seem obsolete.
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
You guys think they'll offer Paddle Shifters on the slushboxes?
Doubtful, as the interior shots that are up are pretty much production pictures; but then again, it's Hyundai - they're impressively "uping" their game in the automotive industry and they might just add it in last minute.

Rofl. Funny how I can say "then again, it's Hyundai..." in a sentence and end on a positive note for Hyundai now.

5 years ago, "then again, it's Hyundai..." would've ended with "it's a p.o.s."
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exciting. I wonder... can I afford an SE v6?
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Originally Posted by BraveDemon
Doubtful, as the interior shots that are up are pretty much production pictures; but then again, it's Hyundai - they're impressively "uping" their game in the automotive industry and they might just add it in last minute.

Rofl. Funny how I can say "then again, it's Hyundai..." in a sentence and end on a positive note for Hyundai now.

5 years ago, "then again, it's Hyundai..." would've ended with "it's a p.o.s."
I completely agree. Kinda creepy actually.
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Originally Posted by agranado
exciting. I wonder... can I afford an SE v6?
SE 2.0T should still be a pretty fun car if you have to "settle" for that.
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amazing.

"i wonder...can i afford an SE v6"

you never would have heard that 5 years ago.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
SE 2.0T should still be a pretty fun car if you have to "settle" for that.
very true. Any word on a navi system maybe coming along with this bad toy? Also, how much is this thing expected to weigh? I know its around here somewhere.. less than a G37 is what I read in an earlier post.
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Originally Posted by agranado
very true. Any word on a navi system maybe coming along with this bad toy? Also, how much is this thing expected to weigh? I know its around here somewhere.. less than a G37 is what I read in an earlier post.
Page 4 has most of the "good stuff":

• Base curb weight: 3549 lbs. (V6); 3439 lbs. (4-cylinder)
So the v6 is 100lbs lighter than the G37 and the i4 is 200 lbs lighter...

I think the turbo 4 is gonna be the better of the two if you're going to mod it...

There's also rumors of a lighter/cheaper "tuner" version of teh 4 banger...
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I know ill be test driving both asap.....
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Well done hyundai!
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Originally Posted by LotusTracker
Well done hyundai!

But the name hyundai still sounds cheap and funny to me........as almost i want to yell out HYUNDAI while doing a karate chop
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I finally got to see the car today at the autoshow. My first impressions are very good, the exterior design does not deceive by any means. The interior seems to be good as well, even though the dashboard layout is not my cup of cake. Leather was nice, electronic features were nice. I was told this should arrive at the dealers in June/July.

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^^^^

Some good'ol Hyundai quality with the license bracket...hahaha
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A few weeks back we posted a video of a South Korean automotive journalist performing one of the first road tests of the new Hyundai Genesis sedan, albeit the South Korean market model. Without getting into too much detail, he didn't like it and complained of body roll, mushy brakes, tires not up to the task, etc. It was as if someone gave this guy a Buick when he was expecting a BMW.

Hyundai Motor America was caught off guard by this video and contacted us with their concern. According to them, the U.S.-spec version of the Genesis sedan and the South Korean version are markedly different, with the Yank-ified version tuned much more for a sporty driving experience. The South Korean market, we're told, favors a different kind of large luxury sedan, one that's softer, more luxurious, and to be blunt, more Buick-like.

So we asked Hyundai, "What's so different about the U.S.-spec version?" While they couldn't divulge all the details, we were told that the U.S. version with have a 31% higher spring rate in the front and 13% higher in the rear. In fact, they say the entire suspension will feature many different components geared more towards dynamic driving, including different springs, shocks and tires. Will it live up to Hyundai's promise of a premium sports sedan? We'll let you know after we drive the U.S.-spec Genesis, a car which this South Korean journalist might enjoy a hell of a lot more than the one he drove.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/27/hyundai-motor-america-responds-to-cranky-south-korean-journalist/
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Looks, Price and Weight (3668lbs for the sport 6mt) eliminated the G37 from my wishlist...

There aren't many under 30K 2+2 RWD coupes out there now... Back in the "old days" there were a lot or cheap rwd cars... Heck, even toyota and datsun/nissan had rwd vehicles at one time...

Now, we've got the Mustang, RX-8, and 128 in the under $30K RWD 2+2 coupe market... You can't count the S2k,Miata,Sky since those are 2 seater roadsters...

I think the introduction of the Genesis coupe will shake up the market... more competition in that category will bring better vehicles into the segment which ultimately is great for us, the consumer...


You missed the GTO.
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GTO is discontinued
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
GTO is discontinued
BE GONE WITH THE LOGIC!
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So is it confirmed that the 4-cylinder is a detuned 4B1 from the Evo X? If so that's almost a no-brainer then....
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
So is it confirmed that the 4-cylinder is a detuned 4B1 from the Evo X? If so that's almost a no-brainer then....

no shit huh? ps thanks for the weight info earlier GM.
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good move hyundai of NA. let's see if this premium sport sedan can live up to the expectations..


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