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Old 03-29-2008, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruski
You missed the GTO.
Well, if you're shopping used, I also forgot the Pinto, Vega, pre-1979 beetle, Corolla ae86 and Datsun 510 along with a long list of other discontinued cheap 2+2 rwd coupes...
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So is it confirmed that the 4-cylinder is a detuned 4B1 from the Evo X? If so that's almost a no-brainer then....
I'm not sure either... I haven't found anything out there about the source of the turbo I4, but I'm thinking that the I4 version is going to be more tunable regardless..
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Originally Posted by agranado
no shit huh? ps thanks for the weight info earlier GM.
No problem... It's a little porky for my liking too, but as I mentioned earlier, at the rumored pricepoint, they aren't going to be able to use alot of weight saving materials due to the cost of those materials...

It kinda is what it is, but it's still a bit lighter than the G37, and right there with the BMW 1-series weight-wise...

I'm interested to see if a lightweight tuner version of the turbo 4 will be available...

Make mine a black GS w/ HID's, brembos, LSD and no sunroof...
Old 03-29-2008, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
So is it confirmed that the 4-cylinder is a detuned 4B1 from the Evo X? If so that's almost a no-brainer then....
Here's a story from back in Dec:

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/17/m...-from-hyundai/

The new two-door model from Hyundai will feature a direct-injection 2.0-liter turbo'd motor (co-developed by Hyundai, Chrysler and Mitsubishi), sending power to the rear wheels via a six-speed manual, supposedly with an optional LSD and the possibility of more factory-produced go-fast bits on the way.
Some of the comments mention the mitsu developed Caliber SRT-4 motors
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Here's a story from back in Dec:

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/17/m...-from-hyundai/



Some of the comments mention the mitsu developed Caliber SRT-4 motors
The caliber engine is 4B12, which is 2.4 litre, stroked version of 4B11. Even though they co-developed the engine, the cylinder and the heads are all different for all 3 companies. I am pretty sure they will be using the "World Engine" for the Genesis coupe.
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Hah, so the Genesis coupe will be a DSM. Kinda.
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
Hah, so the Genesis coupe will be a DSM. Kinda.
For those who don't know... DSM = Diamond Star Motors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond-Star_Motors
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
For those who don't know... DSM = Diamond Star Motors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond-Star_Motors
The first Eclipses out of DSM were amazing cars back in the day for what they were and what they cost.
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Saw it at the NYAS. When Hyundai says this thing is bigger than a 7-series, I'm not sure if they're talking about the exterior dimensions, or if they're talking about a regular wheelbase 7-series. Cause when the turn table spun to show the interior, the rear seat legroom definitely does not beat the long wheelbase 7-series. But it might exceed a regular wheelbase 7-series. Either way, it's big, but just calling out the details.

Overall this car, as generic as it is, was stunning. The details made it look expensive. There are circular foglights, but instead of just being exposed like most, they're housed inside lenses just like headlights. The LED rear lights were very classy.

It was sad to walk over to the Acura display, cuz this thing simply outclasses the new RL in terms of looks. The new RL, with the grey "metal" details instead of chrome, really looked like another TL. It did not look like the flagship model at all. But the interior did look great now that they added wood to the center console. Hell I thought the old RL (which they also had on display) looked classier.
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Originally Posted by Jackygor
The caliber engine is 4B12, which is 2.4 litre, stroked version of 4B11. Even though they co-developed the engine, the cylinder and the heads are all different for all 3 companies. I am pretty sure they will be using the "World Engine" for the Genesis coupe.
So I guess that Chrysler, Mitsubishi and Hyundai formed an alliance to produce these "World" engines...

Makes total sense for hyundai to use that then...
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That looks great...

The whole car looks great...
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I'm very curious as to what the pricing will look like for a top of the line SE V6. Can they get away with charging $35k+? (The 135i I want would sticker at ~$38k BTW.)

This car would have to be priced ulta competitive for a guy like me to go from desiring that new Bimmer to wanting a new Hyundai.
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where you get $35k from?

this will be priced $29k ish with everything on it.

how to buy a hyundai

1. go to a hyundai dealer where there's are tons of cars on the lot.
2. make sure to buy during 'slow' season where they offer 2000 rebates and so on.
3. you go in there and lowball da shit out of the salesman. threaten him to buy a honyota.


i just bought a new 2008 santa fe SE for for $22.2k OTD and the sticker was $26500.
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So this will be released sometime in 09 to be a 010 model? Anyone know when in 09?
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So this will be released sometime in 09 to be a 010 model? Anyone know when in 09?
Word is spring of 09 as a 2010 model... so a year from now...

But since it's still a ways off, I'm sure things could change...
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Wow, seems like lots of people are interested in the I4 version.

Anyone else interested in the 3.8L V6 version like me?

I know what savings is key for drivability, but 100lbs for a NA 3.8L (pumping out 306 HP)seems like a worthy sacrifice IMO, over the 2.0t rated at 212 HP.

Not to mention, I'm already a thin guy at 5'11 weighing only 145 lbs.
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Originally Posted by BraveDemon
Wow, seems like lots of people are interested in the I4 version.

Anyone else interested in the 3.8L V6 version like me?

I know what savings is key for drivability, but 100lbs for a NA 3.8L (pumping out 306 HP)seems like a worthy sacrifice IMO, over the 2.0t rated at 212 HP.

Not to mention, I'm already a thin guy at 5'11 weighing only 145 lbs.
The reason everyone is interested by the I4 turbo because it could mean cheap power. If the engine is anything like the one in the Evo X or the Caliber SRT-4. A intake can easily yield 10+ whp...
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Originally Posted by Brandon24pdx
I'm very curious as to what the pricing will look like for a top of the line SE V6. Can they get away with charging $35k+? (The 135i I want would sticker at ~$38k BTW.)
Pricing has to be below BMW... or it won't sell

I know Hyundai is trying to "upscale" the brand with the RWD offerings, but Hyundai has always been about value...

I would think the top of the line Hyundai Genesis Coupe has to be priced below the $30K 128...

Rumors of pricing (see page 4 in this thread) echo that sentiment...

I'll be interested in seeing how the resale value of the lower end offerings (128 and SE turbo 4) do... It's going to be interesting when all these cheap RWD coupes hit the used car market in a few years...
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
It's going to be interesting when all these cheap RWD coupes hit the used car market in a few years...
You and me both. Between the A5, G37, 1-series, 3-series, and now Genesis coupes I figure that CY 2011 (my 40th birthday year - EEK) is going to be a great year for 2 and 3-year old RWD coupes.
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Originally Posted by BraveDemon
Not to mention, I'm already a thin guy at 5'11 weighing only 145 lbs.
Jeezus man, are your bones hollow like a bird?
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Originally Posted by charliemike
You and me both. Between the A5, G37, 1-series, 3-series, and now Genesis coupes I figure that CY 2011 (my 40th birthday year - EEK) is going to be a great year for 2 and 3-year old RWD coupes.
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^^^

IWHI!!!

I will take one in white
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i never thought i'd see the day that there is car made by Hyundai that i was impressed with.

that day is here though...
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It makes me so happy to see such a nice car come from Hyundai... it really does...

Those pictures that yohan posted show what the car will look like in person. I love it
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MMMMmmmmmmMMmmmmm......... Prettieeeee.....

The more and more I look at this car the more I like. This car does have great lines and overall design. I think this is really good....

Thanks for posting these wonderful pictures, yohan81718.


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This thing looked just as good in person as it does in photos. The headlights were nice. Doesn't quite have the intricate detailing found in the headlights of the G35/37, but still far better than the cheap looking housing from the newer Acuras.
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http://magazine.windingroad.com/wind...5web/?folio=56


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^ +1.

gawd that thing looks good...
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I'm loving the potential of this car, however the one gripe I have so far is the front end. The rear, and sides look gorgeous, but the front is a let down to me. The tiny grill opening and the bottom of the front just looks awkward to me, and doesn't flow with the rest of the car.

But aside from that, everything looks amazing!

EDIT: Picture of what I'm talking about





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I'm sure there'll be tons of kits out there to "fix" the front end if you want...

I agree, the bottom grille looks awkward. I guess it would look better with a "G35/G37" type lower bumper type styling, but Hyundia probably wanted to do something different to make the car stand out from the crowd.
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SeCsTaC, if you're only staring at the front end directly then yea, it would look a little awkward because
of the lower grill on the front bumper and the center grill above the bumper.

But if you look at the car as a whole the front end blends in rest of the car quite well.
The overall of the car looks beautiful to me. Plus, most people don't stare at the frotn end only.
Look at the car at different angle, like posted by yohan.
The pics below need to be looked at again. It's too good to be missed or overlooked...
It's drop-dead ridiculously beautiful. See below.

Originally Posted by yohan81718



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That's was a pretty good read... looks like we'll have to wait till next year to find out what offical pricing will be...
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Honestly, the looks don't do much for me. Looks like a Tibby
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Originally Posted by Ashburner
Honestly, the looks don't do much for me. Looks like a Tibby
This car fixes everything that was wrong with the Tibouron.
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Originally Posted by S A CHO
This car fixes everything that was wrong with the Tibouron.
and more.

Lazy to look back..., Are bi-xenons avalaible for the coupe?


That car looks drop-dead gorgeous. To repeat my co-worker's surprise: Is that a Hyundai? Oh ma Gawd

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Lazy to look back..., Are bi-xenons avalaible for the coupe?
They said HID's are in the SE package, but don't say if it's optional on the other models...


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