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No wonder the CTR only does 0-60 in 5.7s. At almost 3100 pounds, it's pretty heavy.
Whatever happened to CTRs of years gone by, where they were lighter than their more generic counterparts? It's clearly a well balanced car, but I wouldn't be surprised if guys start gutting them once they get possession.
No wonder the CTR only does 0-60 in 5.7s. At almost 3100 pounds, it's pretty heavy.
Whatever happened to CTRs of years gone by, where they were lighter than their more generic counterparts? It's clearly a well balanced car, but I wouldn't be surprised if guys start gutting them once they get possession.
Id say the 0-60 is low more to do with the traction limitation than the weight. With the instant power and torque with the turbo and then putting it thru FWD there is only so much those little tires can do to get it going. Im running 275s on my TL just to limit wheel spin.
No wonder the CTR only does 0-60 in 5.7s. At almost 3100 pounds, it's pretty heavy.
Whatever happened to CTRs of years gone by, where they were lighter than their more generic counterparts? It's clearly a well balanced car, but I wouldn't be surprised if guys start gutting them once they get possession.
I think 3050lb is reasonable. While there are lightweight parts being used, there are also areas where extra materials were used to strengthen the car. Also, with modern safety regulations and what not, most cars are getting heavier.
Focus ST: 3234lb
GTI: 3105lb
Not that the CTR is about 0-60mph, but I think the 5.7s figure is just a conservative estimate from Honda. For instance, the 278hp 3552lb Accord V6 6AT sedan with all-season rubber is faster than that already.
No wonder the CTR only does 0-60 in 5.7s. At almost 3100 pounds, it's pretty heavy.
Whatever happened to CTRs of years gone by, where they were lighter than their more generic counterparts? It's clearly a well balanced car, but I wouldn't be surprised if guys start gutting them once they get possession.
Almost all new cars are heavier and number than before. You want a raw experience, buy something old. 3000 lbs is not heavy for a 300 hp hatchback anyway.
I think 3050lb is reasonable. While there are lightweight parts being used, there are also areas where extra materials were used to strengthen the car. Also, with modern safety regulations and what not, most cars are getting heavier.
Focus ST: 3234lb
GTI: 3105lb
Not that the CTR is about 0-60mph, but I think the 5.7s figure is just a conservative estimate from Honda. For instance, the 278hp 3552lb Accord V6 6AT sedan with all-season rubber is faster than that already.
Shit, I didn't know the ST was such a pig.
Yeah, modern safety features add weight, but I figured the Type R would weigh just a little less than the Si. I guess the Si doesn't have any turbo piping, inter cooler, turbo itself, etc, etc. not really an apples-apples comparison like in years gone by were a Type R and generic civic were both NA....
It also doesn't help the Type R is rolling on 19s. I bet those things are heavy as hell- has honda said if the wheels will be forged? That would definitely help.
I wouldn't say that article is confirming the CTR is coming. I think it makes the case a little bit stronger for it to come to North America, but nothing for certain as of yet.
The EP3 Type R was built in England as well, if I'm not mistaken, but all we got was the Si version of it.
Would be nice if it comes, but I really don't think it's coming. I still think North America will get its own version of Type R.
From what I've heard, for the next gen Civic, it will be sedan and coupe only. The CRZ will be based on the Civic and becomes a 2+2, and we will get a CRZ Type R instead with that 2.0T engine.
Would be nice if it comes, but I really don't think it's coming. I still think North America will get its own version of Type R.
From what I've heard, for the next gen Civic, it will be sedan and coupe only. The CRZ will be based on the Civic and becomes a 2+2, and we will get a CRZ Type R instead with that 2.0T engine.
Better idea: Put an "A" on it and call it "Integra"
Would be nice if it comes, but I really don't think it's coming. I still think North America will get its own version of Type R.
From what I've heard, for the next gen Civic, it will be sedan and coupe only. The CRZ will be based on the Civic and becomes a 2+2, and we will get a CRZ Type R instead with that 2.0T engine.
Where did you hear this? If that is the case, we won't be seeing a Type R for at least another 4 years, I bet.
Honda Debuts Sportiest Civic Design in Brand History with 10th-Generation Civic Concept at New York International Auto Show
- 10th-generation, 2016 model year Civic focuses on sporty, fun-to-drive dynamics
- Civic lineup to include Sedan, Coupe, and 5-door Hatchback body types, as well as Si and Type-R versions
- First Honda model to apply new VTEC® Turbo engines in North America
Civic, America's most popular small car is designed, developed and produced in North America
Today Honda unveiled its ultra-sporty Civic Concept at the New York International Auto Show as the brand prepares to launch its completely reimagined 10th-Generation Civic models beginning this fall. With a sharper focus on spirited performance and class-leading versatility, the new Civic lineup will include Civic Sedan, Coupe and Si models along with the return of the Civic hatchback, followed by the launch of a new Civic Type-R as the performance flagship of the Civic lineup. The new Civic also will be the first U.S. model to apply new VTEC® Turbo engines from the company's Earth Dreams Technology™ powertrain series.
"The new Civic will be, flat out, the most dynamic, the most technologically advanced and the most refined and stylish Civic we've ever made," said John Mendel, executive vice president, Automobile Division, American Honda Motor Co., Inc. "In every way, this will be an epic Civic."
The Civic Concept provides a tantalizing glimpse forward to the thrilling design direction for the all-new 10th-generation Civic lineup launching in the U.S. this fall. Featuring a longer wheelbase and lower, wider stance, the new Civic emphasizes its aggressive personality and the engaging experience it will provide behind the wheel. Proportionally it boasts a longer hood, a shorter front overhang, a more set-back greenhouse and a shorter rear deck, lending the Civic a more athletic and "in motion" appearance.
The low and wide proportions are underscored by its more aggressive wheel-to-body relationship and pronounced fender arches. Its sporty and expressive face is highlighted by bright new LED headlights flanking the "Flying H" Honda grille which is supported by deeply sculpted lower air intakes.
"Charismatic, connected and athletic, our goal was to create a design that is emotional and sporty yet with a sense of timelessness and simplicity," said Guy Melville-Brown, Chief Exterior designer of the Civic concept, Honda R&D Americas, Inc. "In this we set out to create a vehicle that goes beyond the superficial and embraces the very philosophy of what a true Civic should be; it's a real game changer."
The 10th-generation Civic is based on a compact platform that targets benchmark levels of efficiency, dynamic performance, safety and manufacturing productivity. Leveraging this new platform in conjunction with new Earth Dreams Technology™ powertrains – including a new 1.5-liter VTEC® Turbo engine with direct injection, a short-shifting 6-speed manual transmission, and a new, more sporty and efficient continuously variable transmission (CVT) – the Civic will target class-leading fuel economy ratings and fun-to-drive performance with near-luxury levels of cabin quietness and ride refinement.
The new Civic will also target class-leading levels of safety performance and will offer the Honda Sensing™ suite of advanced safety and driver-assistive technologies, including Lane Departure Warning, Forward Collision Warning, Multi-Angle Rearview Camera, Adaptive Cruise Control and Honda LaneWatch™, along with Honda's next-generation Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure.
The new Civic marks the first time that global development of both the sedan and coupe models is being led by a North American R&D team, with design led by a team from Honda's Los Angeles design studio and development centered in the company's Raymond, Ohio vehicle development center. The North American version of the Civic Sedan will be produced in Greensburg, Indiana, and in Alliston, Ontario. The Civic Coupe and Si models will also be manufactured in Alliston. The VTEC Turbo engine will be produced in Anna, Ohio with engines also produced in Alliston. The CVT will be produced in Russells Point, Ohio. Together, these four Honda plants have invested in new equipment, processes and training to prepare for new Civic production, which will use domestic and globally sourced parts. Production of the five-door hatchback will take place at the company's Swindon, UK plant.
Honda is in the midst of a series of major product launches that began with the freshened CR-V – 2015 Motor Trend Sport Utility of the Year – and continues with the spring launch of the all-new 2016 Honda HR-V crossover and the summer launch of the redesigned 2016 Honda Pilot SUV. This will be followed by the new Civic release beginning this fall.
Side profile looks good. Reminds me of the Accord coupe.
The front... still don't like the direction they've been going with the big openings near the fog light area. Don't like it on the current Si, don't like it on the ILX, don't like it on this 10th gen. But I suppose I could get used to it or avoid looking at it.
The rear.... oh boy.... what the hell.
Don't know why, but my first thought was Chevy Cobalt SS.
^ Which is why I said I "don't know why" because they really don't look that similar. Though there are certain elements that are somewhat similar (both have worthless spoiler, both have center exhaust)
03-14-2015, 10:54 AM
did you check out the HRV SLF with the 10 on board cameras for "selfies"?
