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Old 09-04-2012, 08:38 PM
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Still relying too much on that painted metal trim on the inside. It doesn't look as bad as in previous Hondas, since they've at least returned the door release to chrome.
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God the new sedan looks like some weird E-Class/Genesis clone.
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Inside Line: First Look

Woohoo embargo over.

http://www.insideline.com/honda/acco...irst-look.html

Prepare to be shocked by the 2013 Honda Accord. Not because it's radically styled, surprisingly fast or even electric (at least not yet). No, this all-new Accord is groundbreaking for what it isn't — bigger.

That's right, unlike almost every modern sedan of the last two decades, the redesigned Accord is physically smaller than its predecessor. Not drastically — just 3.5 inches shorter overall with an inch shorter wheelbase — but enough to signal that we've seen the end of the ever-growing American family sedan. Even the Honda Accord coupe is slightly smaller than before, although not to the same extent.

There are plenty of the expected changes, too. More efficient engines, additional safety features and some subtle yet effective styling upgrades. An Accord Hybrid will once again join the lineup as well. In fact, there will be two of them, one that plugs in for additional range. So there's plenty that's new even if you can't see the difference on the outside.

The Biggest of the Small Changes
Unlike some redesigns, almost everything new about the Accord is subtle. The new equipment under the hood is a perfect example. The base model Accord will continue to use a 2.4-liter, four-cylinder engine, but it's an all-new design that uses direct injection to help it deliver 185 horsepower and 181 pound-feet of torque to the front wheels. That's an 8 hp bump and 20 additional lb-ft of torque. The "Sport" sedan trim gets an additional 4 hp thanks to larger-diameter exhaust tubing and dual outlets.

The larger 3.5-liter V6 gets a slight horsepower increase as well (271 to 278) while torque decreases marginally (254 to 252). Both engines use regular grade gas, so there's no need for premium to get optimum horsepower out of either engine.

There are two new transmissions: a continuously variable transmission (CVT) for the four-cylinder and a six-speed automatic for the V6. The additional efficiency of the CVT's variable gearing helps to bump the EPA mileage numbers up considerably for the four-cylinder, as it's now rated at 27 mpg in the city and 36 mpg on the highway, increases of 4 mpg and 2 mpg respectively. The six-speed automatic does nearly as much for the V6, as its mpg numbers are now 21 city (up from 19) and 34 highway (up from 30).

Thank Honda for keeping the manual transmission alive, as the Accord will offer it in both the sedan and the coupe. In fact, it's the default transmission in the LX, Sport and EX sedans. It's the same six-speed gearbox offered in the previous Accord V6 and will continue as an option on the V6 coupe.

A plug-in hybrid version of the Accord sedan will arrive in early 2013. It will couple a 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine with a 124 kW electric motor to deliver roughly 10-15 miles of pure electric range along with improved fuel economy in mixed-propulsion driving. A non-plug-in Accord hybrid will follow in the summer of 2013.

An All-New Starting Point
This new 2013 Honda Accord does not ride on a shrunken version of the previous platform. It's a completely new design. Most notable is the fact that it switches to MacPherson struts up front in place of the previous car's double-wishbone layout, while the rear retains a multilink setup. Honda says that the strut setup up front allows for a shorter overhang and less weight. The front subframe also mixes in a little aluminum to get the Accord sedan's weight down to 3,192 pounds, a 24-pound reduction over the previous model.

Like most new cars these days, the Accord now uses electrically assisted power steering instead of a hydraulically assisted setup. This is a hit-or-miss proposition when it comes to road feel, but there are definite efficiency gains, so this change is hardly a surprise.

Other dimensional changes of note are a slight decrease in overall height (58.1 to 57.7 inches) and fractionally wider front and rear tracks that vary according to trim level. Wheel sizes vary from 16 to 18 inches on the sedan and 17 and 18 inches on the coupes. Honda also notes that all Honda Accord wheels are aluminum now for the first time in the car's history.

The Magic of Precise Packaging
Given the Accord's shrunken dimensions, you would expect that the interior space would suffer. It does to some degree, but not in the areas you're likely to notice. For instance, although the overall passenger volume is down nearly 3 cubic feet, rear legroom is actually up by 1.3 inches. Headroom and shoulder room are also up fractionally, while cargo room in the trunk is up by a full cubic foot.

How did Honda get more room out of less car? Well, it's not improved everywhere. There's an inch less hiproom up front, and the gas tank has been reduced to 17.2 gallons from 18.5. You might notice the slightly narrower cabin in front, but the mileage improvements will likely cancel out any reduction in range from the smaller gas tank.

All the Features You Would Expect
Every new generation of Accord gives Honda a revived chance to incorporate its latest technology in new and innovative ways. This time around, Honda simplified the overall interior layout while adding a significant layer of new gadgets.

Consider the fact that while the overall button count is down, all Honda Accords now feature standard dual-zone climate control, Bluetooth connectivity, a USB port, Pandora music interface and a rearview camera. Standard satellite steering wheel controls don't reduce the button count, but they are fairly simple-looking, so it seems like a logical change.

And yes, that 8-inch screen on top of the dash is standard equipment as well. It controls the Bluetooth, audio system and trip computer on models without navigation. On models that have navigation, the 8-inch screen gets an enhanced display with additional features like customizable wallpapers and additional warning screens.

New safety systems include LaneWatch, a system that displays the vehicle's right-side blind spot on the center console screen when the turn signal is activated; Forward Collision Warning (FCW), a crash avoidance technology that alerts the driver to an impending collision; and Lane Departure Warning (LDW), yet another system that lets the driver know if he or she is driving in a way that could cause an accident.

Model Breakdown
If there's one thing that will likely never change with the Honda Accord, it's the trim level breakdown. Sure, there are new trim levels here and there, like this year's "Touring" trim, but Honda continues to package additional features into option-less trim levels that are take-it-or-leave-it propositions.

For 2013, the Accord sedan is broken down into six trim levels: LX, Sport, EX, EX-L, EX-L V6 and Touring. The Accord coupe will be available in LX-S, EX, EX-L and EX-L V6 trims. The hybrid models will each get their own packages.

Any way you cut it, this 2013 Honda Accord appears to be a vastly improved version of the previous model, one that was still pretty good in our eyes. Its styling breaks no new ground and there's nothing particularly innovative about the drivetrains either. Yet when you look at this Accord on paper, there's little reason to think buyers will be the least bit disappointed with the way it blends efficiency, features and passenger space. It may be smaller, yes, but it's not any less of an Accord.
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No more double wishbones. This is all Hyundais fault
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I like how people claim this looks like a Hyundai.

Apparently the 1998 - 2002 Accord didn't exist
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This is bad news for the enthusiast. I hate this de-engineering of cars to slap on useless tech to appease the consumers who think they are wiseguys. It is the same reason the next BMW 1-series will be FWD. Eventually all but the rediculously ballin will be forced into driving emotionless appliances.
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Ahh yes, MacPherson struts have never been used on any sort of car with sporting pretensions.
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Those wheels are horrible. Then again, I don't recall any Honda hybrid having nice wheels.
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Why do you think all Ferraris, Lamborghinis, McLarens, & Paganis use double-wishbones? As well as the Porsche 959 & Carrera GT. At those prices they could choose any setup they wanted. Of course, the suspension tuning is critical but it is a better geometry to begin with. Compare a 90's Civic with wishbones to a newer model. Look at the new Jetta. It has become a car for cheapskates. All because of undercutting companies like Hyundai.
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Why do you think all Ferraris, Lamborghinis, McLarens, & Paganis use double-wishbones? As well as the Porsche 959 & Carrera GT. At those prices they could choose any setup they wanted. Of course, the suspension tuning is critical but it is a better geometry to begin with. Compare a 90's Civic with wishbones to a newer model. Look at the new Jetta. It has become a car for cheapskates. All because of undercutting companies like Hyundai.
I'm well aware of the advantages. See my current daily driver for reference.

But the Accord is not a McLaren, Lamborghini nor a Ferrari.

It is a family car. Even the coupe frankly is a comfortable vehicle for mainly empty nesters.

BMW and others don't seem to do badly with MacPherson struts.
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This is true. But all BMWs (until the next 1er) are RWD. Most Hondas are not. I'm not saying that FWD can't be fun without wishbones. But it is pretty clear that in order to stuff all this standard equipment into the new Accord, something had to give, and it was the suspension. If they still made a Prelude, CL, or S2000 with wishbones, I wouldnt be complaining.

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This could be next Accord Euro as its official poster from Moscow show. more aggressive styling & fenders than USDM. more like VW CC.


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As many disappointments that Honda has been churning out over the past few years this one, at least looks promising
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http://content.usatoday.com/communit...fuel-economy/1

Honda's new 2013 Accord won't have the best fuel economy in the midsize sedan segment, but at least it's right up there.

Honda says the four-cylinder sedan will get 27 miles per gallon in city driving, 36 mpg on the highway for an average of 30 mpg. That's an 11% increase, but still one mile per gallon less on average than Nissan's redone Altima. But it's more than Ford's Fusion -- for the moment, since a new Fusion arrives in several weeks -- and Toyota Camry and Hyundai Sonata.

Honda says it will find itself in a three-way tie with Altima and Camry when it comes to gas mileage in the V-6 engine. On that powerplant, the new Accord will get 21 mpg in the city, 34 on the highway and an average of 25 mpg, up 4%.

The new Accord gets a next-generation engine, a 2.4 liter i-VTEC that achieves 185 horsepower through direct injection, friction reduction and other measures.

The 3.5-liter V-6 engine develops 278 horsepower and have a system that shuts off cylinders when they aren't needed for better gas mileage. It has seven horsepower more than the engine it replaces.
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For all those folks who thought Honda would beat the Altima in hwy mileage.....
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On paper perhaps. But Honda has consistently been underrated by the EPA.

All three of my cars are underrated by at LEAST 10% on the highway. That's significant. In the case of the CR-Z, nearly 5 mpg.
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I've already exceeded the 34 mpg hwy by a hair in my 12 Accord...in relatively mixed driving.
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Honda today announced the all-new 2013 Accord Sedan and Coupe, a storied nameplate that will once again redefine sophistication, efficiency and driving joy in the midsize class. Completely redesigned for 2013, the all-new Honda Accord provides a host of powertrain, engineering, electronic and safety firsts combined with Honda's trademark visibility and smart design.

Better, not bigger, the completely new Honda Accord lineup includes Sedan and Coupe models powered by 4-cylinder, V-6 and hybrid powertrains, teamed to manual, automatic and continuously variable transmission (CVT) options. The 2013 Honda Accord Sedan goes on sale September 19, 2012, with the Coupe to follow on October 15, 2012. An all-new, 2-motor 2014 Accord Plug-in Hybrid (PHEV) Sedan is scheduled to debut in early 2013, followed by a conventional hybrid based on the same powertrain architecture in the summer of 2013.

Using the most high-strength steel in the model's history, the 2013 Honda Accord Sedan and Coupe bodies combine sophisticated and athletic styling with remarkable aerodynamic streamlining. Revised Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structures improve frontal crash safety, making the all-new Accord 1 of few midsize offerings expected to excel in the upcoming small-overlap frontal barrier crash test.

All-new Earth Dreams™ powertrains include the first U.S. application of Honda's next-generation 2.4-liter direct-injected 4-cylinder engine. The 2013 Accord Sedan and Coupe will also offer a more powerful and efficient V-6, and in early 2013, an all-new 2-motor 2014 Accord Plug-in Hybrid (PHEV) Sedan will debut. 4 transmissions are available, including the first-ever application of a continuously variable transmission (CVT) on 2.4-liter 4-cylinder models, a 6-speed automatic on V-6 models, and unique 6-speed manual transmissions on 2.4-liter 4-cylinder models and the 3.5-liter V-6 Coupe. Fuel efficiency is the best ever for an Accord in the EPA Midsize class, with 4-cylinder models earning up to an EPA 36 mpg highway rating1 and V-6 models getting up to an EPA 34 mpg highway rating.1

Other new Accord technologies include the 1st application of the all-new cloud-based HondaLink™ system, which lets drivers put away their smartphones and still stay connected to the people, music and social media they love. Also debuting on the 2013 Accord is the exclusive available Honda LaneWatch™ blind-spot display, which uses a camera system mounted on the passenger mirror for an enhanced view of the passenger-side roadway. The all-new 2013 Honda Accord also receives a rearview camera and an Expanded View Driver's Mirror as standard equipment.

New Accord Technology

Honda's first use of direct injection (DI) in North America contributes to the 2.4-liter inline 4-cylinder engine's excellent fuel efficiency and low emissions.
A new Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT), available with the 2.4-liter 4-cylinder engine, contributes to the Accord's improved fuel efficiency. Honda's unique G-Design Shift logic creates a connected feel and provides a more immediate acceleration response than conventional automatics or other CVT designs.
New MacPherson-strut front suspension improves ride and handling qualities, while also reducing interior noise, vibration and harshness (NVH). The new lighter aluminum and steel front subframe also uses a proprietary Honda friction-stir welding process.
3 features highly coveted by consumers are now standard on every new Accord: Bluetooth® HandsFreeLink®, USB/iPod® integration and rearview camera. No other manufacturer provides this level of standard equipment. Honda's Expanded View Driver's Mirror is also now standard equipment on every Accord.
All Accord models feature standard Econ button with Eco Assist™
Included on Accord EX, EX-L and Touring Sedan models and EX-L Coupe, Honda LaneWatch™ Blind Spot Display provides an expanded rear view of the passenger side roadway through the intelligent Multi-Information Display (i-MID).
All-new Smart Entry & Push Button Start included on Accord EX, EX-L and Touring models.
Included on EX-L and Touring Sedan and EX-L Coupe models, Forward Collision Warning (FCW) alerts the driver when a potential collision with another vehicle ahead is detected.
Included on Accord EX-L and Touring models, Lane Departure Warning (LDW) alerts the driver when lane drift is detected without a turn signal in use.
New SmartVent™ side airbags mitigate the risk of excessive airbag deployment force while eliminating the need for the prior Accord's Occupant Position Detection System (OPDS). SmartVent also allows improved heating of the passenger seatback on EX-L and Touring models.
The Accord Touring Sedan offers Honda's first light emitting diode (LED) projector headlights for improved visibility. In addition, LED daytime running lights (DRLs) are found on V-6 powered models, while LED brake lights come on all EX-L and Touring models.
Exclusive to the Touring Sedan, Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) allows the driver to set a desired speed and a distance interval behind the vehicle ahead.
The all-new available HondaLink™ connected-car system allows owners to put their smartphones away and still stay connected to their favorite digital content.

Model Lineup
The 2013 Honda Accord Sedan will be available in 6 model choices, including an all-new top-spec Touring trim (LX, Sport, EX, EX-L, EX-L V6, and Touring), with the 2014 Accord Plug-In Hybrid Sedan arriving early in 2013. The striking 2013 Honda Accord Coupe will be available in 4 model choices (LX-S, EX, EX-L and EX-L V6).

The 2013 Accord Sedan is available in 9 exterior colors, including 4 metallic and 5 pearl colors. All-new colors include Champagne Frost Pearl, Hematite Metallic, Modern Steel Metallic and Obsidian Blue Pearl. The 2013 Accord Coupe is available in 7 exterior colors, including 2 metallic, 5 pearl and 1 solid color. All-new colors include Modern Steel Metallic, Still Night Pearl, Tiger Eye Pearl and White Orchid Pearl.

Powertrain
As in previous generations, 2 gasoline engines are available on the 2013 Honda Accord Sedan and Coupe. These include a new Earth Dreams™ 2.4-liter 4-cylinder with Honda's 1st use of direct injection in North America, and an Earth Dreams™ 3.5-liter V-6 with revised VTEC + VCM functions. The base 185-horsepower (hp) 4-cylinder engine is coupled to a choice of an efficient new continuously variable transmission (CVT), or a new fun-to-shift 6-speed manual transmission on selected models. The Accord Sport Sedan model provides a 189-horsepower version of the 2.4-liter 4-cylinder. Meanwhile, Accord V-6 models feature a 278-horsepower 3.5-liter engine coupled to a 6-speed automatic or, in the V-6 Coupe, a 6-speed manual transmission.

In early 2013, the 2014 Accord Plug-In Hybrid will debut Honda's new 2.0-liter 4-cylinder 2-motor plug-in hybrid system. Available in the Sedan only, this system operates continuously through 3 modes – all-electric, gasoline-electric and direct-drive – to maximize fuel efficiency.

Body
Crisply styled and aerodynamically efficient, the 2013 Accord Sedan and Coupe body designs are the most sophisticated in Accord history. The 2013 Accord unit-body uses 55.8-percent high-tensile steel, more than in any previous Accord. In addition, 17.2-percent of the steel is now grade 780, 980 and 1,500 – extremely high grades that have never before been used in any Accord. This contributes to higher body rigidity and reduced weight, which directly benefits ride and handling, interior quietness, performance and efficiency and long-term durability.

With its contoured body-sides, the Sedan's exterior design is sleek, bold and decisive, while the Coupe's design is rakish, taut and athletic. Extensive use of under-covers improve aerodynamics for increased fuel efficiency, while other advances include available LED headlights, DRLs and brake lights, mirror-mounted turn signals, and the standard Expanded View Driver's Mirror that increases the driver's field of vision by 4.2 degrees.

Chassis
Literally every aspect of the Accord's chassis was reviewed or redesigned to create the best possible driving experience. Altogether, the highly rigid unit-body, refined suspension technology and advanced electronics define the 2013 Accord chassis as the most capable in model history. The new Accord is quieter and more responsive on city streets, smoother and more composed on the highway, and even more faithful to the driver's wishes on winding roads.

New features for Accord include a MacPherson strut front suspension, a steel and aluminum front subframe and electric power steering (EPS). Standard Active Noise Control (ANC) and Active Sound Control (ASC) on both 4-cylinder and V-6 models counteract engine noise, particularly at high rpm.

The lightweight MacPherson strut front suspension improves ride and handling qualities while also reducing interior noise, vibration and harshness (NVH). The new aluminum and steel front subframe reduces weight and, in conjunction with the new independent multi-link rear suspension, further reduces NVH. Careful aerodynamic tailoring of the underbody and suspension systems provides additional noise reductions.

The new EPS setup uses an electric motor to assist the rack-and-pinion steering rather than the hydraulic assist of the previous Accord. The result is reduced steering effort and fuel consumption, with improved precision, feel and stability.

Alloy wheels are now standard across the Accord model range, and range in size from 16 to 18 inches. 4-wheel disc brakes are also standard, as is Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD) with Brake Assist, a 4-channel Anti-lock Braking System (ABS), Vehicle Stability Assist™ (VSA®) with Traction Control, and a Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS). Hill start assist is also now standard on the Accord.

Interior
A completely new interior provides a level of luxury and craftsmanship never before seen in the Accord. Available in Black, Gray and Ivory cloth or leather, the interior combines welcoming comfort with an impressive range of available technologies. Standard features include redesigned seating, dual-zone automatic climate control and simplified controls and instrumentation.

Compared to the prior edition, both the 2013 Accord Sedan and Coupe offer spacious accommodations for 5 passengers, and a roomy trunk with a flatter load floor for greater utility. Although the Accord's length has decreased over 3 inches and the wheelbase is almost an inch shorter, key interior dimensions grow. Rear legroom increases over an inch, both front and rear shoulder room increase, and trunk space is up over a cubic foot. Altogether, the interior is remarkably quiet, stylish and upscale, with high-quality materials, exemplary fit and finish, and advanced seating comfort and ergonomics.

Contemporary onboard electronics help the Accord driver seamlessly interface with the latest generation of compatible personal mobile electronics. Standard features on all Accords include a bright, full-color 8-inch (diagonal) "intelligent" Multi-Information Display (i-MID), Bluetooth®2 HandsFreeLink® phone interface, Pandora® internet radio interface and an SMS text messaging feature. A new available Audio with touchscreen display and the Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System™ with Voice Recognition and FM Traffic is also available.

The 2013 Accord is also the 1st Honda product to offer available HondaLink™ technology, which works with the owner's compatible smartphone to connect the Accord with music and media resources such as Aha™ by Harman, internet apps, roadside assistance and more. Forward Collision Warning (FCW), Lane Departure Warning (LDW) and Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) are also available.

Safety
The 2013 Accord Sedan and Coupe offer the greatest range of active and passive safety features in Honda history. Vehicle Stability Assist™ (VSA®) is standard on all Accord models, and available new technologies include Forward Collision Warning (FCW) and Lane Departure Warning (LDW).

Collision safety engineering includes the updated Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure, which improves occupant protection and crash compatibility in frontal collisions, and the most extensive use of high-strength steel in Accord history. The Accord's impact-absorbing front body design can even help attenuate energy in the event of a frontal collision with a pedestrian.

Passive-safety features include 6 airbags, including dual-stage, multiple-threshold front airbags, front side airbags, and side curtain airbags. New SmartVent™ side airbags reduce the risk of excessive airbag deployment force and eliminate the need for the Accord's previous Occupant Position Detection System (OPDS).

Based on internal testing, both the 2013 Accord Sedan and Coupe are expected to earn a TOP SAFETY PICK rating from the Insurance Institute of Highway Safety (IIHS) and 5-star ratings in federal National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) crash tests3.

Manufacturing
Celebrating 30 years of Accord production in the United States, the all-new 2013 Honda represents the expanding capabilities of Honda in North America. Virtually every aspect of the Accord was developed, tested and finalized by Honda associates throughout California and Ohio. The Accord is produced4 in Ohio by Honda of America Mfg. Inc. using domestic and globally sourced parts.

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No more double wishbones. This is all Hyundais fault

This makes me sad too. When the 2G Prelude (1983) came out I was really impressed it had both double front wishbone, IRS, discs all around, and 3 valve per cylinder.

Not sure whose fault it is but it's been happening for a while. Civic 7G+, Ody/Pilot/MDX/Ridge, CRV, Element all have MacPherson. This has been a long term thing, but I don't blame Hyundai more likely Honda accountants and marketing.

It also probably means the 5G TL will be MacPherson also unless it gets a special front structure/suspension.
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Honda Accord Sport Sedan:
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I'm glad to see that even though only the V6 models get the LED DRL strip, they're not "dummy" lights on the lower trims. Appears to have a halogen source on the outer edge that lights up the strip. That's why the early vid of the assumed-to-be LX showed that it had a 'warm' looking light source in the strip, since it's not LEDs.

Not glad to see they took away a locking glovebox for the sport model. Rear vents are taken away, but I agree that that may be considered an upscale touch so they reserve it for higher trims...but a locking glovebox isn't exactly an amenity.
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slightly shorter, ~1" wheelbase, ~3" length, about the same on width. Also it's just slightly less on weight as well, glad to see the mass increases come to a halt.

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I was hoping for more of a HP bump, but 34mpg hwy out of the V6 is nice.
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I'm curious to see if the 9th gen 6 speed manual V6 coupe will have the V6 with cylinder deactivation like the automatics. For the 8th gen, the V6-6MT coupe didn't have the same cylinder deactivation technology and it made a big difference in the power the engines could make.

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What's unique about the 6MT? Only 24 lbs weight savings?
The sport model looks good.
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I'm curious to see if the 9th gen 6 speed manual V6 coupe will have the V6 with cylinder deactivation like the automatics. For the 8th gen, the V6-6MT coupe didn't have the same cylinder deactivation technology and it made a big difference in the power the engines could make.
God I hope not.
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According to the comparison sheet the 6MT V6 does NOT have VCM.
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Memory seating! Its about f*cking time.

The camera on the side view mirror is interesting as well. Its also very nice to see that they lost weight over the outgoing model. But Im curious to see the weight on the EV V6s and the Hybrid, not just the LXs.
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Its also interesting to see that the ED engine is actually a K series.
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The V6 is still the J series as well.

Not sure what model the hybrid(s) will be.
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God I hope not.
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According to the comparison sheet the 6MT V6 does NOT have VCM.
Prayers answered! Might have to go test drive it. I hope there is a way to get rid of that hideous rear bumper openings. IDK WTF they were thinking
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This makes me sad too. When the 2G Prelude (1983) came out I was really impressed it had both double front wishbone, IRS, discs all around, and 3 valve per cylinder.

Not sure whose fault it is but it's been happening for a while. Civic 7G+, Ody/Pilot/MDX/Ridge, CRV, Element all have MacPherson. This has been a long term thing, but I don't blame Hyundai more likely Honda accountants and marketing.

It also probably means the 5G TL will be MacPherson also unless it gets a special front structure/suspension.
Looking at this page, the Accord buyer is more interested in silver plastic & 4 mpg gains than tire contact patches & avoiding carbon buildup. The early Acuras had longitudinal mounted engines with the differential underneath for better weight distribution. Eight years ago they pioneered torque-vectoring AWD. Here's hoping for the TL.
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Yea that back bumper is horrible. I think this is the first time in a while that the sedan actually looked better then the coupe.
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The reflectors remind me of the 08-09 Legacy.





It's not that bad

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This could be next Accord Euro as its official poster from Moscow show. more aggressive styling & fenders than USDM. more like VW CC.


Uhm, it's basically the same thing as the USDM Accord, just given the "sleek style" as is usual for renderings.

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Woohoo embargo over.
The embargo for actual reviews is not over 'til the 10th.

Here's a pre-production overview from TTAC.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...accord-part-1/

Overall, I think Honda did a good job w/ the new Accord.

Maybe not the class leader in exterior styling, but nothing really wrong w/ the sheetmetal and better looking than the both the Camry and Altima and w/ the best interior to boot.

Buyers aren't going to be swayed by 1-2 better MPG, so while the new Altima will do well, it's not going to be the sales leader.

The Accord has what it takes to usurp the top from the Camry, but it all depends on whether Honda has the build capacity, how much fleet sales Toyota does in the future w/ the Camry and whether the Accord hybrid can generate some sales.


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Ughh, why do automakers make their hybrid variants unappealing? (Aside from the Optima hybrid and maybe the new Fusion hybrid - that is if Ford doesn't tack on some weird grill design up front).

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Those wheels and front end.


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While the new Accord sedan is an improvement, do like the front end of the outgoing coupe better than the new one.
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No more spare tire?




Interior is an improvement over the 8th gen, IMO. Too bad no more cup holder cover. That was a nice touch on the 8th gens.


















Did Honda do away with the door sill plates/guards too?




































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