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We had seen what Acura did to TLX during the first 2 years... they thought they had the best thing ever, thus, little to no discount was given and leasing rate sucked balls. The result was the sales was never as good as expected.
I dont see why they will do any differently this time around... especially now they have Type-S with Turbooo
So i would not be surprised that TLX-S will cost about the same as a M340i to buy and probably more expensive to lease than M340i. Especially considering that When TLX-S is released, M340i is not going to be new anymore. So even more discount could be had vs. a car with markup...
$55K depreciation after 10k mile driven. and still need to emphasis balance of warranty left.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3169/overview/ 2018 BMW 750 i xDrive $71,998 ***RARE HARD LOADED BMW 750I //M SPORT PACKAGE WITH ONLY 9K MILES, MSRP $125,390*** WORDS CANNOT DESCRIBE THIS CAR! THE NEW BMW 750i //M SPORT PKG IS IN A CLASS OF ITS OWN. THIS 1 OWNER CAR COMES WITH CLEAN TITLE AND CLEAN CARFAX REPORT, JUST SERVICED AT BMW DEALER, DETAILED AND READY TO GO. THE CAR COMES WITH BALANCE OF FULL BMW WARRANTY UNTIL 05/2021 OR 50,000 MILES.
If the Type S base starts 42k... What does Acura have to justify the $10k in MSRP between base and Advance? They can't have a Type S A Spec
Yes Infiniti does go into 57k and do you not see how fast those 50k red sports are selling?
Oh for sure the top of the line won't be the most popular. It's just there so if people do want the best model, it's there. The Rdx awd base is $39.6k and a Rdx advance awd is $48.1k. Even a Civic hatch back has spread of $6500 for a car in the $20k range. I think this is what people have been asking, to offer more features and options, and let people decide whether to pay for them or not.
Audi builds S4, BMW builds 340i, Mercedes makes create. But most of the time we see a4 2.0t, 330i, or c300. Likewise I would see a normal q50 2.0t or 3.0t more often than a red sport. Based on that, I would expect to see the TLX 2.0t more often than the type s.
$55K depreciation after 10k mile driven. and still need to emphasis balance of warranty left. https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3169/overview/ 2018 BMW 750 i xDrive $71,998 ***RARE HARD LOADED BMW 750I //M SPORT PACKAGE WITH ONLY 9K MILES, MSRP $125,390*** WORDS CANNOT DESCRIBE THIS CAR! THE NEW BMW 750i //M SPORT PKG IS IN A CLASS OF ITS OWN. THIS 1 OWNER CAR COMES WITH CLEAN TITLE AND CLEAN CARFAX REPORT, JUST SERVICED AT BMW DEALER, DETAILED AND READY TO GO. THE CAR COMES WITH BALANCE OF FULL BMW WARRANTY UNTIL 05/2021 OR 50,000 MILES.
further discounts coming after warranty expires.
After warranty $100k becomes less than $30k.
This just in, Euro luxury cars have massive depreciation!!!
You should ask Acura to make a $120k Sedan and see how fast it depreciates
Actually nevermind, even if they did, you would never know since no one would buy it.
Originally Posted by SSFTSX
$55K depreciation after 10k mile driven. and still need to emphasis balance of warranty left.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3169/overview/ 2018 BMW 750 i xDrive $71,998 ***RARE HARD LOADED BMW 750I //M SPORT PACKAGE WITH ONLY 9K MILES, MSRP $125,390*** WORDS CANNOT DESCRIBE THIS CAR! THE NEW BMW 750i //M SPORT PKG IS IN A CLASS OF ITS OWN. THIS 1 OWNER CAR COMES WITH CLEAN TITLE AND CLEAN CARFAX REPORT, JUST SERVICED AT BMW DEALER, DETAILED AND READY TO GO. THE CAR COMES WITH BALANCE OF FULL BMW WARRANTY UNTIL 05/2021 OR 50,000 MILES.
There are plenty of RLX Tech models in the low $20k range with sub 30k miles. For a car that started at ~$55k-$60k new, that's some epic depreciation too.
You should ask Acura to make a $120k Sedan and see how fast it depreciates
Actually nevermind, even if they did, you would never know since no one would buy it.
They already have NSX thats performing better than BMW I8 despite more expensive
They already have NSX thats performing better than BMW I8 despite more expensive
um.. what part of $120k sedan dont you understand?
and the 5 years old underperforming i8 with only 3 cylinders and weak ass battery and more expensive still somehow have better sales # than a relatively new NSX? matter of fact, it outsold RLX in some months
What? are you gonna go back to resale value again and do a full circle in this conversation
um.. what part of $120k sedan dont you understand?
and the 5 years old underperforming i8 with only 3 cylinders and weak ass battery and more expensive still somehow have better sales # than a relatively new NSX? matter of fact, it outsold RLX in some months
What? are you gonna go back to resale value again and do a full circle in this conversation
I can sure you that if Acura creates $120k sedan. 10 years later its resale value will be higher than what ever BMW 7 resale value. $120K Acura sedan will triple turbo hybrid or full electric like Tesla. producing some where 1000bhp.
its the resale value after than 6 or 7 year CPO warranty expires.
10 year old Acura NSX have much higher value than what ever 10 year old BMW.
I can sure you that if Acura creates $120k sedan. 10 years later its resale value will be higher than what ever BMW 7 resale value. $120K Acura sedan will triple turbo hybrid or full electric like Tesla. producing some where 1000bhp.
its the resale value after than 6 or 7 year CPO warranty expires.
10 year old Acura NSX have much higher value than what ever 10 year old BMW.
Yeah we don’t give a fuck. And neither does the buying public.
I can sure you that if Acura creates $120k sedan. 10 years later its resale value will be higher than what ever BMW 7 resale value. $120K Acura sedan will triple turbo hybrid or full electric like Tesla. producing some where 1000bhp.
its the resale value after than 6 or 7 year CPO warranty expires.
10 year old Acura NSX have much higher value than what ever 10 year old BMW.
What drugs are you on? Sounds like some good stuff you should share.
I guess we'll never know what the resale of a $120k Acura sedan would be because it doesn't exist and never will.
I can sure you that if Acura creates $120k sedan. 10 years later its resale value will be higher than what ever BMW 7 resale value. $120K Acura sedan will triple turbo hybrid or full electric like Tesla. producing some where 1000bhp.
its the resale value after than 6 or 7 year CPO warranty expires.
10 year old Acura NSX have much higher value than what ever 10 year old BMW.
I can sure you that if Acura creates $120k sedan. 10 years later its resale value will be higher than what ever BMW 7 resale value. $120K Acura sedan will triple turbo hybrid or full electric like Tesla. producing some where 1000bhp.
its the resale value after than 6 or 7 year CPO warranty expires.
10 year old Acura NSX have much higher value than what ever 10 year old BMW.
You honestly think people (actually i dont think so, you are just trying to be nice and entertain us) who buy 120k sedan care about a few thousand dollars 10 fucking years later??? Dude... Triple turbo hybrid? Let's talk after they get their twin turbo first.
10 year old Acura NSX? yah i raise you a 30 years old BMW... How about that?
these are rare not usable antiques. otherwise the whole thing will fall apart due to unreliability.
why they using the word stored?
This is one of the Rarest BMWs produced in the World. Only 453 units produced and 20 of them being racecars It has been stored indoors and recently received a quartz polish.
https://tiremeetsroad.com/2019/06/10...d-over-445000/ Two NSX Type R’s were auctioned off this weekend in Japan with one of them absolutely shattering the first gen NSX auction record selling for more than $445,000.
and i am sure you did not purposely leave out this part.....
So those were not stored? I am sure they were driven daily.... 348 miles/15 years... 23 miles a year daily commuter.
what is next? its AC Vents are more ideally located?
An auction of epic proportions just wrapped up in Tokyo, Japan and one of 23 auction lots is getting media attention worldwide for the amount of money dropped. As per lot listing 13, a 2005 NSX R in iconic Championship white and with only 348 miles on the clock sold for 48,400,000 YEN which converts to $445,376.80.
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Like a house you make the money when you buy it...
I purchased a loaded 2019 A Spec V6 SHAWD recently. The sticker on it was 46,000 but I was able to use the Honcker app to get the price down to $32,000. Since everyone wants RDXs nowadays they were willing to do it to move the inventory. 4 months later and I can trade it back in for the same $32,000 if not a little bit more. I am a fan of buying the thing that is out of fashion if it saves you a ton of money.
I purchased a loaded 2019 A Spec V6 SHAWD recently. The sticker on it was 46,000 but I was able to use the Honcker app to get the price down to $32,000. Since everyone wants RDXs nowadays they were willing to do it to move the inventory. 4 months later and I can trade it back in for the same $32,000 if not a little bit more. I am a fan of buying the thing that is out of fashion if it saves you a ton of money.
A day after Acura unveiled its Type S Concept with its angular face, long hood, sloping roof, and short rear deck, spy photos of the next-generation TLX surfaced. While heavily camouflage and cladding hid much of the sedan’s design details, there’s no doubt it features Type S Concept styling underneath. The first photos also gave us a look inside, albeit a small peek at the top of the dashboard. Today’s new Acura TLXspy photos show us much more of the interior than before along with a bit more of the exterior.
We see the same infotainment display atop the dash and analog tach gauge as before. But we also see the steering wheel and one of the column stalks that has what appears to be a “Camera” button at the end with an overhead silhouette of the vehicle, possibly hinting at some sort of 360-degree camera feature. The photos also show the instrument panel and a bit of the center console. There’s a good chance it could look similar to the RDX’s IP as we can see the True Touchpad Interface and volume controls on the center console.
Much of the car is still covered under heavily camouflage; however, we do see a hint of the front daytime running lights that look nearly identical to those on the Type S Concept as do the rear taillights; however, they are not as angular as the ones on the concept. Customers should expect the TLX to grow over the current offering with the new iteration receiving a longer wheelbase.
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We don’t know what will power the TLX; however, there is a good chance it could use the RDX’s turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine that makes 272 horsepower (203 kilowatts) and 280 pound-feet (380 Newton-meters) of torque. It’ll power the front or all four wheels through the rumored 10-speed automatic. The TLX Type S could receive the turbocharged V6 engine Acura is developing along with torque-vectoring Super Handling All-Wheel Drive.
The 2021 Acura TLX will debut late this year or early next before going on sale.
I purchased a loaded 2019 A Spec V6 SHAWD recently. The sticker on it was 46,000 but I was able to use the Honcker app to get the price down to $32,000. Since everyone wants RDXs nowadays they were willing to do it to move the inventory. 4 months later and I can trade it back in for the same $32,000 if not a little bit more. I am a fan of buying the thing that is out of fashion if it saves you a ton of money.
Aside from the not so stealth product placement, what I'm taking away from this comment is your 2019 A-Spec lost 31% of it's value ($14,000!!!) in 4 months.
No digital dash? That's a shame seeing as most Hondas have it now...
It's possible it gets added on still? This is still a test mule, right? I'm not certain but would it be already on the vehicle at this stage of testing?
It's possible it gets added on still? This is still a test mule, right? I'm not certain but would it be already on the vehicle at this stage of testing?
Yah but shouldn't they be testing the digital cluster and the brake on the mule too? i mean isnt that the point of testing mules?
It's possible it gets added on still? This is still a test mule, right? I'm not certain but would it be already on the vehicle at this stage of testing?
That interior looks awfully close to production ready, even the infotainment screen has graphics and stuff on it.
It's likely to be cheaper to use a digital screen for the gauges rather than having a digital screen and then some analogue gauges which are also fed by digital signals. The pointers, bezels, different units and translation, structures for holding the gauges, all cost extra $$. The 992 911 still uses an actual physical gauge for its tachometer for instance.
For me, I thought having actual gauges feel a bit more sporty rather one giant screen.
It's likely to be cheaper to use a digital screen for the gauges rather than having a digital screen and then some analogue gauges which are also fed by digital signals. The pointers, bezels, different units and translation, structures for holding the gauges, all cost extra $$. The 992 911 still uses an actual physical gauge for its tachometer for instance.
For me, I thought having actual gauges feel a bit more sporty rather one giant screen.
It's likely to be cheaper to use a digital screen for the gauges rather than having a digital screen and then some analogue gauges which are also fed by digital signals. The pointers, bezels, different units and translation, structures for holding the gauges, all cost extra $$. The 992 911 still uses an actual physical gauge for its tachometer for instance.
For me, I thought having actual gauges feel a bit more sporty rather one giant screen.
The analog guages are not analog but digital stepper motors controlled by low-cost stepper motor controllers. It's been that way for a couple decades.
Those motors/controller and the needles/plastic assembly (all very cheap) for them are probably still much cheaper than a TFTLCD display which are replacing them.
Old article but in 2014, a auto electronics analyst put the cost of the 7" 800x480 LCD diplay at $40-50 not including the uP and S/W development cost to drive it, it's probably come down some.
The advantage? Many new buyers love the modern displays and it makes it very easy to modify the display for any function.
It's likely to be cheaper to use a digital screen for the gauges rather than having a digital screen and then some analogue gauges which are also fed by digital signals. The pointers, bezels, different units and translation, structures for holding the gauges, all cost extra $$. The 992 911 still uses an actual physical gauge for its tachometer for instance.
For me, I thought having actual gauges feel a bit more sporty rather one giant screen.
Yup, screen is way cheaper than a real set up and especially the set ups in a "luxury" car.
It's likely to be cheaper to use a digital screen for the gauges rather than having a digital screen and then some analogue gauges which are also fed by digital signals. The pointers, bezels, different units and translation, structures for holding the gauges, all cost extra $$. The 992 911 still uses an actual physical gauge for its tachometer for instance.
For me, I thought having actual gauges feel a bit more sporty rather one giant screen.
Oh then you will like what BMW did with my car... make a fully customizable digital gauge look like an analog gauge?
$55K depreciation after 10k mile driven. and still need to emphasis balance of warranty left.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3169/overview/ 2018 BMW 750 i xDrive $71,998 ***RARE HARD LOADED BMW 750I //M SPORT PACKAGE WITH ONLY 9K MILES, MSRP $125,390*** WORDS CANNOT DESCRIBE THIS CAR! THE NEW BMW 750i //M SPORT PKG IS IN A CLASS OF ITS OWN. THIS 1 OWNER CAR COMES WITH CLEAN TITLE AND CLEAN CARFAX REPORT, JUST SERVICED AT BMW DEALER, DETAILED AND READY TO GO. THE CAR COMES WITH BALANCE OF FULL BMW WARRANTY UNTIL 05/2021 OR 50,000 MILES.
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BMW is driven less than 10k miled and is 2018 model year.
Try find 2018 Acura RLX at 50% depreciation with same mileage.
BMW did not depreciate 50%.
2018 BMW 750i xDrive
MSRP: $125,390
Used price: $71,998 (42.58%)
Depreciation: $53,392 (42.58%)
BMW was owned for approx. 1 year 11 months (purchased in May 2017) according to Carfax
08-19-2019, 02:42 PM
Gotta look at percentages, not just the $ amount lost.
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