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07-23-2003, 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by phile
The production car will be 100% accurate, in terms of size - that's just plain logic. If the concept is 90% accurate, the production will be 10% bigger - where's the confusion? If the arithmetic doesn't work out, maybe it's because the concept version isn't 90% accurate in size. Sheesh.
The production car will be 100% accurate, in terms of size - that's just plain logic. If the concept is 90% accurate, the production will be 10% bigger - where's the confusion? If the arithmetic doesn't work out, maybe it's because the concept version isn't 90% accurate in size. Sheesh.
As someone had mentioned earlier, there are some features (jet windshield wipers, side view cameras) that obviously won't make it to production.
07-23-2003, 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by justinjsw
No it will not be.
No it will not be.
07-23-2003, 11:32 AM
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Uh, my understanding is that the concept is "90% accurate" in terms of features and content and not size. In other words, if you made a list of the concept's features, ~ 90% of the items on that list will also be found on the production car.
As someone had mentioned earlier, there are some features (jet windshield wipers, side view cameras) that obviously won't make it to production.
Uh, my understanding is that the concept is "90% accurate" in terms of features and content and not size. In other words, if you made a list of the concept's features, ~ 90% of the items on that list will also be found on the production car.
As someone had mentioned earlier, there are some features (jet windshield wipers, side view cameras) that obviously won't make it to production.
07-23-2003, 11:41 AM
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Do you guys realize that this thread contains over 1/8 of the posts in the entire a-tsx forums? I know it's a hot topic, but this is a little ridiculous. Maybe we could un-sticky this thread now....
07-23-2003, 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by need4spd
.....Also, our rating has dropped to three stars vs 5 last week
.....Also, our rating has dropped to three stars vs 5 last week
I know there's a thingee at the bottom of the thread where we can give a rating, but I'm pretty sure hardly anyone does it.
07-23-2003, 12:15 PM
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That's OK, I gave this thread a good rating. Everything will be all right.
07-23-2003, 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by larchmont
IMO your rating was 90% accurate.
IMO your rating was 90% accurate.
07-23-2003, 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by larchmont
Now that you mention it -- WTF is this "rating" thing anyway???
I know there's a thingee at the bottom of the thread where we can give a rating, but I'm pretty sure hardly anyone does it.
Now that you mention it -- WTF is this "rating" thing anyway???
I know there's a thingee at the bottom of the thread where we can give a rating, but I'm pretty sure hardly anyone does it.
07-23-2003, 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by phile
Maybe you should do the arithmetic to find out.
Maybe you should do the arithmetic to find out.
07-23-2003, 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by donutchow
terrible. looks like the new pontiac grand prix
terrible. looks like the new pontiac grand prix
07-23-2003, 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by ClutchPerformer
Hey! Hey! Larch was just trying to point out that "90% accurate" != "90% smaller". And I have to agree with him. Chill out.
Hey! Hey! Larch was just trying to point out that "90% accurate" != "90% smaller". And I have to agree with him. Chill out.
Boy, math is hard.
07-23-2003, 01:43 PM
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Ok this is not a rumor!
List of Important Dates for the 2004 TL...
July
Week of Jul 21-First dealer MOVE allocation for October arrival
Week of Jul 28-TL concept site live on acura.com
August
TL Ride and Drive registration
Week of Aug 25-Second dealer MOVE allocation for November arrival
September
Week of Sept 1-TL mini site live on acura.com
Week of Sept 10-TL Ride and Drive begins
Week of Sept 15-TL brochure(Initial delivery)
October
Oct 1-3-National Dealer meeting, SF, CA
Week of Oct 6-TL on-sale
Week of Oct 6-TL main model section live on acura.com
Oct 22-TL preview party night (Big Wednesday)
July
Week of Jul 21-First dealer MOVE allocation for October arrival
Week of Jul 28-TL concept site live on acura.com
August
TL Ride and Drive registration
Week of Aug 25-Second dealer MOVE allocation for November arrival
September
Week of Sept 1-TL mini site live on acura.com
Week of Sept 10-TL Ride and Drive begins
Week of Sept 15-TL brochure(Initial delivery)
October
Oct 1-3-National Dealer meeting, SF, CA
Week of Oct 6-TL on-sale
Week of Oct 6-TL main model section live on acura.com
Oct 22-TL preview party night (Big Wednesday)
07-23-2003, 01:55 PM
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Re: Ok this is not a rumor!
Originally posted by justinjsw
List of Important Dates for the 2004 TL...
Week of Sept 10-TL Ride and Drive begins
List of Important Dates for the 2004 TL...
Week of Sept 10-TL Ride and Drive begins
question.. what is Ride Drive on Sept 10?
-jjstokes
07-23-2003, 01:57 PM
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Re: Ok this is not a rumor!
Originally posted by justinjsw
Oct 22-TL preview party night (Big Wednesday)
Oct 22-TL preview party night (Big Wednesday)
07-23-2003, 02:01 PM
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Justin, is'nt the official unveiling somewhere here in Canada?
Niagra-on-the Lake if I remember correctly. Or is that the Oct 1-3 meeting your referring to?
Niagra-on-the Lake if I remember correctly. Or is that the Oct 1-3 meeting your referring to?
07-23-2003, 02:22 PM
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Justin, is'nt the official unveiling somewhere here in Canada?
Niagra-on-the Lake if I remember correctly. Or is that the Oct 1-3 meeting your referring to?
Justin, is'nt the official unveiling somewhere here in Canada?
Niagra-on-the Lake if I remember correctly. Or is that the Oct 1-3 meeting your referring to?
Ride and Drive is when the Dealers get a hands on with the TLs and put it through its paces.
07-23-2003, 02:38 PM
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Sorry, I thought I heard that the North American debut was in Canada. Much like Canadian Dealers attended the Miami conference for the TSX debut. I assumed US dealers would be coming here.
Anyway, I read at TOV and I'm not sure if its been mentioned in the 1100+ posts in this thread (I'm not going to find out) that Canada will not be getting the HPT model. Instead we'll be getting a "Dynamic" TL. If we're lucky it may be similar to the TL-S A-Spec we were privilged to for the last year. Exclusive leather, Badging, Wheels etc...
I'm not sure how much sense High Performance Tire's would make up here since they could only be used 6 months of the year.
Anyway, I read at TOV and I'm not sure if its been mentioned in the 1100+ posts in this thread (I'm not going to find out) that Canada will not be getting the HPT model. Instead we'll be getting a "Dynamic" TL. If we're lucky it may be similar to the TL-S A-Spec we were privilged to for the last year. Exclusive leather, Badging, Wheels etc...
I'm not sure how much sense High Performance Tire's would make up here since they could only be used 6 months of the year.
07-23-2003, 03:06 PM
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Thanks Justin, Question for you, does that mean that all of us that have depostis should be picking our options this week with our dealers (and colors) for the week of July 21st MOVE in order to get them in October????
I guess if we do not hear from them, we won't be geting them until November, correct?
I guess if we do not hear from them, we won't be geting them until November, correct?
07-23-2003, 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by PokeyD16Z
This whole shift knob lighting thing....I'm getting a vision of a ricer knob with the number lit in indiglow. I hope thats what this answer is for. Maybe I need some clarification....is it a no for the rice shift knob or for ambient lighting like the TSX?
This whole shift knob lighting thing....I'm getting a vision of a ricer knob with the number lit in indiglow. I hope thats what this answer is for. Maybe I need some clarification....is it a no for the rice shift knob or for ambient lighting like the TSX?
The shift knob thing it not in the rice family.
I believe the M# is an example of a car with an illuminated shift knob. It just a small back light on the numbers. Not ricey IMHO at all.
07-23-2003, 05:37 PM
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The new Thread is at:
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...=&threadid=901
Mods please close this thread, and make the other thread a Sticky
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...=&threadid=901
Mods please close this thread, and make the other thread a Sticky
07-23-2003, 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by larchmont
No, 10% smaller! (Or bigger.)
Boy, math is hard.
No, 10% smaller! (Or bigger.)
Boy, math is hard.
10% bigger or smaller, would probably change the class in which the car resides.
10% of approximately 190" is 19". That is substantial.
07-23-2003, 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by domn
Sorry, I thought I heard that the North American debut was in Canada. Much like Canadian Dealers attended the Miami conference for the TSX debut. I assumed US dealers would be coming here.
Anyway, I read at TOV and I'm not sure if its been mentioned in the 1100+ posts in this thread (I'm not going to find out) that Canada will not be getting the HPT model. Instead we'll be getting a "Dynamic" TL. If we're lucky it may be similar to the TL-S A-Spec we were privilged to for the last year. Exclusive leather, Badging, Wheels etc...
I'm not sure how much sense High Performance Tire's would make up here since they could only be used 6 months of the year.
Sorry, I thought I heard that the North American debut was in Canada. Much like Canadian Dealers attended the Miami conference for the TSX debut. I assumed US dealers would be coming here.
Anyway, I read at TOV and I'm not sure if its been mentioned in the 1100+ posts in this thread (I'm not going to find out) that Canada will not be getting the HPT model. Instead we'll be getting a "Dynamic" TL. If we're lucky it may be similar to the TL-S A-Spec we were privilged to for the last year. Exclusive leather, Badging, Wheels etc...
I'm not sure how much sense High Performance Tire's would make up here since they could only be used 6 months of the year.
07-23-2003, 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by PinkyTSX
I don't know if this was posted previously but the week before last, there was some camera crews at Acura East in Ajax ON shootng some promo ish, doing some testing...not exactly a compercial, but the TL was there. I heard about after the fact...sorry no pictures. Security was tight.
I don't know if this was posted previously but the week before last, there was some camera crews at Acura East in Ajax ON shootng some promo ish, doing some testing...not exactly a compercial, but the TL was there. I heard about after the fact...sorry no pictures. Security was tight.
PS - They didn't give me credit for last post.
07-23-2003, 09:36 PM
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I think there WAY too many categories in acura-tsx.com. Apparently all we need in one titled 2004 Acura TL Rumors & News 
07-23-2003, 10:42 PM
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2004 Acura TL News and Rumors - Part II
Originally posted by justinjsw
This is just a repost from the OTHER TL thread page 74...
Ok this is not a rumor!
List of Important Dates for the 2004 TL...
July
Week of Jul 21-First dealer MOVE allocation for October arrival
Week of Jul 28-TL concept site live on acura.com
August
TL Ride and Drive registration
Week of Aug 25-Second dealer MOVE allocation for November arrival
September
Week of Sept 1-TL mini site live on acura.com
Week of Sept 10-TL Ride and Drive begins
Week of Sept 15-TL brochure(Initial delivery)
October
Oct 1-3-National Dealer meeting, SF, CA
Week of Oct 6-TL on-sale
Week of Oct 6-TL main model section live on acura.com
Oct 22-TL preview party night (Big Wednesday)
This is just a repost from the OTHER TL thread page 74...
Ok this is not a rumor!
List of Important Dates for the 2004 TL...
July
Week of Jul 21-First dealer MOVE allocation for October arrival
Week of Jul 28-TL concept site live on acura.com
August
TL Ride and Drive registration
Week of Aug 25-Second dealer MOVE allocation for November arrival
September
Week of Sept 1-TL mini site live on acura.com
Week of Sept 10-TL Ride and Drive begins
Week of Sept 15-TL brochure(Initial delivery)
October
Oct 1-3-National Dealer meeting, SF, CA
Week of Oct 6-TL on-sale
Week of Oct 6-TL main model section live on acura.com
Oct 22-TL preview party night (Big Wednesday)
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...=&threadid=347
I am going to start "Part II" of our long journey of speculation and anticipation with Justin's 2nd famous Acura product time line (the TSX one from his was on the money).
Everyone feel free to summarize info as we know it from the other thread like colors and manufacturing combinations. I will leave it up to you guys to pull the appropriate tidbits in here.
So ... ding ding ding ... let's get it on with Round 2
07-23-2003, 10:42 PM
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07-23-2003, 11:27 PM
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sounds like J was off the mark with the vtm-4 talk, but we'll see when ti draws a little closer.
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OK, here goes -
This is what seems to be fact based on threads in this site and other sites (in no particular order):
A. The obvious:
4 dr sedan
B. Trans:
6spd Manual
5spd Auto
C. Engine:
V6 - more hp than 03 TL type S, i.e. more than 260HP, (per Justin, not 280 or 285HP).
Actual HP Unknown, but will be same HP in all 6 models (see below)
Displacement Unknown
D. Tires:
All Seasons Standard (s/b 17")
High Performance Tires, ie HPT (18" per stash) as option to 6spd Manual ONLY (include brembos, suspension tweaks not known)
E. Interior Technology:
(All standard)
DVD 5.1 Surround Sound Audio
Bluetooth - allows cell phones to connect wirelessly to car for total integration
XM Radio
F. 6 Models:
5spd AT without NAV
5spd AT with NAV
6spd MT with out Nav
6spd MT with Nav
6spd MT HPT with out Nav
6spd MT HPT with Nav
(HPT is USA only - Canada gets Dynamic package vs. High Performance Tires package)
G. Exterior Colors:
Anthracite
Nighthawk Black
Abyss Blue
Redondo Red
Desert Mist
Diamond White Pearl
Silver Metallic
Pearl Green
H. Interior colors:
Camel
Parchment
Ebony
Quartz
I. Wheels:
Open 5 spoke design per spy photos (stock S/B 17", HPT s/b 18")
J. Headlights:
Projector type Xenon/HID low beam
K. Exhaust:
Dual - Rectangular Exposed Tail Pipes
L. 6spd manual shifter knob
Not illuminated gate pattern like on M3
M. Turn Indicators
Turn indicators on front fender behind front wheel in crease line (a la TL Concept Car, not in mirror like TSX)
N. Side Crease Like TL Concept Car
O. Windsheld Cleaning
Real wipers (not air jets as on concept)
P. Exterior Rear View Mirror
Real Mirrors (not TV cameras as on concept)
That’s all I can think of right now, others feel free to add to the list!
Thanks for those who provided updates
This is what seems to be fact based on threads in this site and other sites (in no particular order):
A. The obvious:
4 dr sedan
B. Trans:
6spd Manual
5spd Auto
C. Engine:
V6 - more hp than 03 TL type S, i.e. more than 260HP, (per Justin, not 280 or 285HP).
Actual HP Unknown, but will be same HP in all 6 models (see below)
Displacement Unknown
D. Tires:
All Seasons Standard (s/b 17")
High Performance Tires, ie HPT (18" per stash) as option to 6spd Manual ONLY (include brembos, suspension tweaks not known)
E. Interior Technology:
(All standard)
DVD 5.1 Surround Sound Audio
Bluetooth - allows cell phones to connect wirelessly to car for total integration
XM Radio
F. 6 Models:
5spd AT without NAV
5spd AT with NAV
6spd MT with out Nav
6spd MT with Nav
6spd MT HPT with out Nav
6spd MT HPT with Nav
(HPT is USA only - Canada gets Dynamic package vs. High Performance Tires package)
G. Exterior Colors:
Anthracite
Nighthawk Black
Abyss Blue
Redondo Red
Desert Mist
Diamond White Pearl
Silver Metallic
Pearl Green
H. Interior colors:
Camel
Parchment
Ebony
Quartz
I. Wheels:
Open 5 spoke design per spy photos (stock S/B 17", HPT s/b 18")
J. Headlights:
Projector type Xenon/HID low beam
K. Exhaust:
Dual - Rectangular Exposed Tail Pipes
L. 6spd manual shifter knob
Not illuminated gate pattern like on M3
M. Turn Indicators
Turn indicators on front fender behind front wheel in crease line (a la TL Concept Car, not in mirror like TSX)
N. Side Crease Like TL Concept Car
O. Windsheld Cleaning
Real wipers (not air jets as on concept)
P. Exterior Rear View Mirror
Real Mirrors (not TV cameras as on concept)
That’s all I can think of right now, others feel free to add to the list!
Thanks for those who provided updates