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#1081
Originally posted by larchmont
Good. Let's see....that means it'll be somewhere between 171" and 209".
Good. Let's see....that means it'll be somewhere between 171" and 209".
#1082
I too saw the concept TL in person. IMO, it was about the size of the TSX. The TSX's looks are deceiving as well - it's actually bigger than it looks (I don't know if that makes any sense). So if the new TL is only 10% bigger than the concept TL - we're basically looking at a car that's about the same size as the new Accord. That isn't particularly big, IMO.
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Anyone priced an after the fact Brembo kit (aka if offered as a FP for the 04TL)?
For a different type of car, disks, pads, calipers, the kit (not installed) goes for $3159.00
NOT small potatoes, won’t find me going for it as a FP option package!
For a different type of car, disks, pads, calipers, the kit (not installed) goes for $3159.00
NOT small potatoes, won’t find me going for it as a FP option package!
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Originally posted by Colin
.....Let's face it, the "hard points" are already done and probably have been done for a long time, long before the auto show.
.....Let's face it, the "hard points" are already done and probably have been done for a long time, long before the auto show.
We know basically everything that relates to what fundamental kind of car it is, except whether it will be 185", or 188", or 191", or -- according to some -- more like maybe 194". Those are four very different cars.
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Originally posted by phile
.....So if the new TL is only 10% bigger than the concept TL - we're basically looking at a car that's about the same size as the new Accord. That isn't particularly big, IMO.
.....So if the new TL is only 10% bigger than the concept TL - we're basically looking at a car that's about the same size as the new Accord. That isn't particularly big, IMO.
#1086
Originally posted by larchmont
far from a slam dunk that the production car will be the same size as the concept.
far from a slam dunk that the production car will be the same size as the concept.
OK here goes. If the concept car is indeed 2 inches shorter (than the current model) as it has been mentioned, then I will go out on a limb and say that the production car will be the same length or 190. If the concept car was 3 inches shorter than the current TL then the production car will be 3 inches shorter. I'm confident that both the concept car and the production cars will be the same length. This is because the hard points have been set for quite some time.
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Originally posted by Colin
.....OK here goes. If the concept car is indeed 2 inches shorter (than the current model) as it has been mentioned, then I will go out on a limb and say that the production car will be the same length or 190.....
.....OK here goes. If the concept car is indeed 2 inches shorter (than the current model) as it has been mentioned, then I will go out on a limb and say that the production car will be the same length or 190.....
#1088
Originally posted by larchmont
Hey Phile, your mind must have been on something else -- your arithmetic is way off.
Hey Phile, your mind must have been on something else -- your arithmetic is way off.
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go to bed
90% accurate means there are 10% of the details up in the air. It has nothing to do with relative size of the concept car vs. the final version.
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But I was talking about the size of the car - if the size of the car was 90% accurate, the production car is simply 10% larger. Within the context of the sentence, it was pretty obvious what I was referring to. I don't know what the technical fault is.
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go to bed
go to bed
:P Indeed, everybody go to bed! It's been a long day and we've added over 68 posts today and everyone's a bit cranky.... As for me, it's only 7:40 and I'm going to leave work now!
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Nope, I work late, I sleep late.
#1093
IN that case, would you like a glass of water or a bed time story....
#1096
I'm Up! But unfortunately there's no new news to report! I learned nothing new on my drive home.....:P
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Originally posted by phile
But I was talking about the size of the car - if the size of the car was 90% accurate, the production car is simply 10% larger. Within the context of the sentence, it was pretty obvious what I was referring to. I don't know what the technical fault is.
But I was talking about the size of the car - if the size of the car was 90% accurate, the production car is simply 10% larger. Within the context of the sentence, it was pretty obvious what I was referring to. I don't know what the technical fault is.
If it were 10% larger than the concept, which (supposedly) was about 188" or 190" (depending on whose estimate we take), that would make it 188 plus 18.8 or 190 plus 19 -- making a total of 206.8 inches or 209 inches.
In other words, your average Lincoln Town Car.
Not Honda Accord.
But yes indeed, everybody -- I knew that neither Colin nor anybody else really meant this literally. And my point is exactly that: Nothing on here is meant literally, and if it is, they're fooling themselves. Yet, we're TAKING it literally, then hammering it to death -- when there are some very BASIC things that we have very little idea of at all, and which are far more important than these things that we're nitpicking.
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Originally posted by Colin
I'm Up! But unfortunately there's no new news to report! I learned nothing new on my drive home.....:P
I'm Up! But unfortunately there's no new news to report! I learned nothing new on my drive home.....:P
Or Maybe you happend to find some secret confidential letter under the cup holder, that the dealer accidentally left..
The letter had all the specs, and pictures, and it was addressed from Honda's President, and it has a treasure map to the location of a test model, hidden away somewhere, and the letter had no key, but a card, because there is no key, and everything is like a keycard
Man I felt so good writing that story
Or maybe you could take the letter and blackmail Honda/Acura and ask them for money, or you could Take the Keycard, and treasure map and find the car, take TONS OF PICS, and everything
and tell us how it drives
ALOHA!
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Originally posted by CK03RSX-S
Damn Alex, what the heck are you talking about? I don't even know where to begin. Comparing the TSX/TL with a Suby STi or the new Legacy perhaps, then the TL with a used GS400, Honda having the worst reliability ever, no performance offerings from Honda, Nissan killing Honda.... Do you work for Subaru or Nissan...or for that matter Dodge.
Hey, I have some issues with Honda/Acura too, but you are all over the place.
Not to be too harsh, but I think you may need to do some more research. Start with Marketing 101 first.
Now, back to that TL thingy!!!
Damn Alex, what the heck are you talking about? I don't even know where to begin. Comparing the TSX/TL with a Suby STi or the new Legacy perhaps, then the TL with a used GS400, Honda having the worst reliability ever, no performance offerings from Honda, Nissan killing Honda.... Do you work for Subaru or Nissan...or for that matter Dodge.
Hey, I have some issues with Honda/Acura too, but you are all over the place.
Not to be too harsh, but I think you may need to do some more research. Start with Marketing 101 first.
Now, back to that TL thingy!!!
i feel dumb after reading his posts
#1100
Originally posted by larchmont
If it were 10% larger than the concept, which (supposedly) was about 188" or 190" (depending on whose estimate we take), that would make it 188 plus 18.8 or 190 plus 19 -- making a total of 206.8 inches or 209 inches.
If it were 10% larger than the concept, which (supposedly) was about 188" or 190" (depending on whose estimate we take), that would make it 188 plus 18.8 or 190 plus 19 -- making a total of 206.8 inches or 209 inches.
#1101
Originally posted by phile
I don't see why you have to find fault with that.
I don't see why you have to find fault with that.
#1103
Originally posted by Colin
The concept car was supposed to be around 190 or about 2 inches shorter than the current TL. This was supposed to be "90%" acurate to what the production car would have. I'll go out on a limb and vote for 190 inches overall length. Maybe someone will measure the 18" wheels in the prototype and extrapolate out the exact length.......
The concept car was supposed to be around 190 or about 2 inches shorter than the current TL. This was supposed to be "90%" acurate to what the production car would have. I'll go out on a limb and vote for 190 inches overall length. Maybe someone will measure the 18" wheels in the prototype and extrapolate out the exact length.......
That is the same thing I heard from my birdie because testing was already being done on the production one when the concept was released
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The missing 10% was/is probably the Brembo brakes, the 19" wheels, the side-view cameras, the windshield jets and some other crap inside the car that no one has seen.
We now know the side-view cameras and windshield jets are no go.
Fortunately or unfortunately, no one has gotten close enough on their spy shots to determine the wheel size or presence of Brembo brakes.
Mysteries, mysteries, mysteries.
Justin, here is a lighting question.
In the 6 speed cars, will the gear shift knob be illuminated? Answering this question shouldn't get anyone in trouble.
We now know the side-view cameras and windshield jets are no go.
Fortunately or unfortunately, no one has gotten close enough on their spy shots to determine the wheel size or presence of Brembo brakes.
Mysteries, mysteries, mysteries.
Justin, here is a lighting question.
In the 6 speed cars, will the gear shift knob be illuminated? Answering this question shouldn't get anyone in trouble.
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I know one thing, when the dealer princable meeting happens in October just before the release of the 04 TL. I will be in Niagara On The Lake for the week before on all my spare time incase the dealers get a chance to drive the new TL on the road like they did with the tsx in Miami last April. My geuss is that this will be the first time anyone I know personally will be able to drive the car. I cant believe the release will be here in Canada.
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Originally posted by 2004TL
O I thought maybe you saw the 2004 TL on the roads in Hawaii on your ride home
Or Maybe you happend to find some secret confidential letter under the cup holder, that the dealer accidentally left..
The letter had all the specs, and pictures, and it was addressed from Honda's President, and it has a treasure map to the location of a test model, hidden away somewhere, and the letter had no key, but a card, because there is no key, and everything is like a keycard
Man I felt so good writing that story
Or maybe you could take the letter and blackmail Honda/Acura and ask them for money, or you could Take the Keycard, and treasure map and find the car, take TONS OF PICS, and everything
and tell us how it drives
ALOHA!
O I thought maybe you saw the 2004 TL on the roads in Hawaii on your ride home
Or Maybe you happend to find some secret confidential letter under the cup holder, that the dealer accidentally left..
The letter had all the specs, and pictures, and it was addressed from Honda's President, and it has a treasure map to the location of a test model, hidden away somewhere, and the letter had no key, but a card, because there is no key, and everything is like a keycard
Man I felt so good writing that story
Or maybe you could take the letter and blackmail Honda/Acura and ask them for money, or you could Take the Keycard, and treasure map and find the car, take TONS OF PICS, and everything
and tell us how it drives
ALOHA!
#1107
Originally posted by EmuMessenger
...In the 6 speed cars, will the gear shift knob be illuminated? Answering this question shouldn't get anyone in trouble.
...In the 6 speed cars, will the gear shift knob be illuminated? Answering this question shouldn't get anyone in trouble.
#1108
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Originally posted by CK03RSX-S
I've been told it's either going to be illuminated or not, but I can't confirm. At this point it's still speculation.
I've been told it's either going to be illuminated or not, but I can't confirm. At this point it's still speculation.
#1109
Forgive me if I missed it somewhere in this confusing maze of endless posts , but did we ever find out what 1st time feature (not found in any other car, but not really a selling point) the TL is to have? It was talked about well over a month ago on the "other TSX site" by Justin I believe and there were a couple guesses, but no answers. We were promised an answer in coming weeks and I still haven't heard anything.
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Originally posted by jwaters943
Forgive me if I missed it somewhere in this confusing maze of endless posts , but did we ever find out what 1st time feature (not found in any other car, but not really a selling point) the TL is to have? It was talked about well over a month ago on the "other TSX site" by Justin I believe and there were a couple guesses, but no answers. We were promised an answer in coming weeks and I still haven't heard anything.
Forgive me if I missed it somewhere in this confusing maze of endless posts , but did we ever find out what 1st time feature (not found in any other car, but not really a selling point) the TL is to have? It was talked about well over a month ago on the "other TSX site" by Justin I believe and there were a couple guesses, but no answers. We were promised an answer in coming weeks and I still haven't heard anything.
The new Voice Activated Navi will be cool too
L.E.D. Lights
Intelligent Key
Intelligent Cruise Control
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Originally posted by justinjsw
Somebody ask me this before but I don't have the time to dig through all these posts to find out who. Question was what color is the bronze metallic replacing on the 04MDX...answer is Havasu Blue.
04MDX...
Nighthawk Black Pearl
Starlight Silver Metallic
Sandstone Metallic
Sage Brush Pearl
Redrock Pearl
Midnight Blue Pearl
Taffeta White...early 04 models only
Aspen White Pearl
Bronze Metallic
Somebody ask me this before but I don't have the time to dig through all these posts to find out who. Question was what color is the bronze metallic replacing on the 04MDX...answer is Havasu Blue.
04MDX...
Nighthawk Black Pearl
Starlight Silver Metallic
Sandstone Metallic
Sage Brush Pearl
Redrock Pearl
Midnight Blue Pearl
Taffeta White...early 04 models only
Aspen White Pearl
Bronze Metallic
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Originally posted by 2004TL
Man The concept's trunk looks so small, it almost makes it look ugly, Seriously Its so damn SMALL!
Man The concept's trunk looks so small, it almost makes it look ugly, Seriously Its so damn SMALL!
#1113
Originally posted by jwaters943
Forgive me if I missed it somewhere in this confusing maze of endless posts , but did we ever find out what 1st time feature (not found in any other car, but not really a selling point) the TL is to have? It was talked about well over a month ago on the "other TSX site" by Justin I believe and there were a couple guesses, but no answers. We were promised an answer in coming weeks and I still haven't heard anything.
Forgive me if I missed it somewhere in this confusing maze of endless posts , but did we ever find out what 1st time feature (not found in any other car, but not really a selling point) the TL is to have? It was talked about well over a month ago on the "other TSX site" by Justin I believe and there were a couple guesses, but no answers. We were promised an answer in coming weeks and I still haven't heard anything.
I wouldn't do something like that...if I know about it and its true I will disclose it...simple as that...the public has a right to know.
Don't you guys sleep???
Here's a fact for you the new Tl will only come as a sedan.
#1114
Originally posted by EmuMessenger
The missing 10% was/is probably the Brembo brakes, the 19" wheels, the side-view cameras, the windshield jets and some other crap inside the car that no one has seen.
We now know the side-view cameras and windshield jets are no go.
Fortunately or unfortunately, no one has gotten close enough on their spy shots to determine the wheel size or presence of Brembo brakes.
Mysteries, mysteries, mysteries.
Justin, here is a lighting question.
In the 6 speed cars, will the gear shift knob be illuminated? Answering this question shouldn't get anyone in trouble.
The missing 10% was/is probably the Brembo brakes, the 19" wheels, the side-view cameras, the windshield jets and some other crap inside the car that no one has seen.
We now know the side-view cameras and windshield jets are no go.
Fortunately or unfortunately, no one has gotten close enough on their spy shots to determine the wheel size or presence of Brembo brakes.
Mysteries, mysteries, mysteries.
Justin, here is a lighting question.
In the 6 speed cars, will the gear shift knob be illuminated? Answering this question shouldn't get anyone in trouble.
#1117
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Originally posted by 2004TL
Well 5.1 is something new, all that HP is something diff, Bluetooth is something new, XM I guess is not too new..
The new Voice Activated Navi will be cool too
L.E.D. Lights
Intelligent Key
Intelligent Cruise Control
Well 5.1 is something new, all that HP is something diff, Bluetooth is something new, XM I guess is not too new..
The new Voice Activated Navi will be cool too
L.E.D. Lights
Intelligent Key
Intelligent Cruise Control
All of the other stuff has been used by other manufacturers for at least a year.
Justin, thanks for the shift knob answer.
#1118
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Originally posted by 2004TL
Lets keep this thread closed, and stickied, to use as reference, but lets get a new thread going, PLEASE!
Lets keep this thread closed, and stickied, to use as reference, but lets get a new thread going, PLEASE!
#1119
Originally posted by RJC RSX
phile, get off the
phile, get off the