Acura: NSX News
#4761
The Dumb One
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they were cusping the balls of the great ol' USA for that entire show.
last time I checked, I like driving Japanese cars for the fact that they were designed and some manufactured in Japan.
the last thing I want is some guy that built the ford probe assembling my Japanese brand supercar in Ohio...
last time I checked, I like driving Japanese cars for the fact that they were designed and some manufactured in Japan.
the last thing I want is some guy that built the ford probe assembling my Japanese brand supercar in Ohio...
#4762
Team Owner
Yumcha, you're too hung up on the NSX burning at the 'ring. It was a concept car and who knows what they were testing and what caused the fire. As long as it doesn't happen in production models, who cares? Plus, it's not like every other super car hasn't met a fiery demise on the roads, way past the testing phase.
I hated the concept versions of the NSX. But the production version has that "F16" style roofline to it again, with the help of the rear side windows, like the 1G did. As much as I hate the front, the overall production car does look pretty nice. However, the concept versions had WAY nicer interiors... All that silver plastic trim makes the inside of the production model look like a 15k civic. I bet you carbon fibre will be an expensive and highly desirable option.
The delivery schedule is stupid for anyone who doesn't live in the southern states. It's like "awesome, I just dropped 175k!! I can't wait to utilize it in 4-5 months!!" The first production models should be sitting in people's garages by no later than September, so that they can still enjoy it for a bit before the season ends.
I have a feeling the spec numbers will be good and the performance will be fantastic, however, it comes at too high of a price point. Honda should be selling these things at break-even prices, to gain the hype of this vehicle up. At selling only 1000 units per year, this clearly isn't their bread and butter money maker. You want those perspective NSX buyers to pick other things up in your lineup for their daily use. What are they going to buy? A plain jane TLX? Before selling this thing for profit, they need other models in the lineup to entice people to buy them as well. Audi gives their customers that option with the R8 and any number of sporty daily cars. I dunno. Maybe I'm out to lunch.
I hated the concept versions of the NSX. But the production version has that "F16" style roofline to it again, with the help of the rear side windows, like the 1G did. As much as I hate the front, the overall production car does look pretty nice. However, the concept versions had WAY nicer interiors... All that silver plastic trim makes the inside of the production model look like a 15k civic. I bet you carbon fibre will be an expensive and highly desirable option.
The delivery schedule is stupid for anyone who doesn't live in the southern states. It's like "awesome, I just dropped 175k!! I can't wait to utilize it in 4-5 months!!" The first production models should be sitting in people's garages by no later than September, so that they can still enjoy it for a bit before the season ends.
I have a feeling the spec numbers will be good and the performance will be fantastic, however, it comes at too high of a price point. Honda should be selling these things at break-even prices, to gain the hype of this vehicle up. At selling only 1000 units per year, this clearly isn't their bread and butter money maker. You want those perspective NSX buyers to pick other things up in your lineup for their daily use. What are they going to buy? A plain jane TLX? Before selling this thing for profit, they need other models in the lineup to entice people to buy them as well. Audi gives their customers that option with the R8 and any number of sporty daily cars. I dunno. Maybe I'm out to lunch.
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#4763
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Anyone else get really tired of the "corporate speak" in that video? For me, the especially nauseating thing was the repeated reference to Acura's "core values"...as if they've elucidated what those are and how they've shaped the company in the past, not to mention why we should care what they are now.
Oh, and the sycophantic appealing to the American market had to be a turnoff to anyone outside the U.S.
Oh, and the sycophantic appealing to the American market had to be a turnoff to anyone outside the U.S.
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#4764
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I have a feeling the spec numbers will be good and the performance will be fantastic, however, it comes at too high of a price point. Honda should be selling these things at break-even prices, to gain the hype of this vehicle up. At selling only 1000 units per year, this clearly isn't their bread and butter money maker. You want those perspective NSX buyers to pick other things up in your lineup for their daily use. What are they going to buy? A plain jane TLX? Before selling this thing for profit, they need other models in the lineup to entice people to buy them as well. Audi gives their customers that option with the R8 and any number of sporty daily cars. I dunno. Maybe I'm out to lunch. ![Dunno](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
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#4765
Itz JDM y0!
All that matters at this price level is emotion. If you feel something inside you when you see it, then it's the right one, otherwise it isn't. When I see a Maserati Granturismo Stradale or when I saw the NSX unveiling I felt something when I saw it. When I see a 911 Carrera or a M6 I don't. Why? I dunno, I just don't. With these cars, that's the only thing that should be considered, I couldn't care less about any of the specs. Exotics/Supercars are meant to appeal to emotions. Nothing else really matters aside from that.
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The 911 GT3 had an issue, no doubt...but, it doe snot take away from the fact that the Porsche 911 platform is a PROVEN benchmark for a reason by the press and consumers...again, flaws happen. Machines are made by man who is by all extents and purposes, not perfect...so, flaws will happen.
But, generally speaking, the 911 is a proven platform. This NSX would be a rebirth and complete redesign of a car that was taken out of production several years ago. The only thing it shares with the iconic 90s car is the name. So, completely new.
My point was: If I'm looking at similarly priced cars...I'd have to think real hard before buying the new NSX because well, it's an unproven car. There is not much history behind it and honestly, it's Honda's return to the high-performance car segment after taking a nice purgatory break from it for many years. So, yeah, I would have reservations.
That's what I was getting at.
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kurtatx (01-12-2015)
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FYI - The "Nazis" and the Japanese were on the same side during WWII.
Correction - it was a prototype and it should have been relatively close to the production version; hence, the concern.
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Yumcha, you're too hung up on the NSX burning at the 'ring. It was a concept car and who knows what they were testing and what caused the fire. As long as it doesn't happen in production models, who cares? Plus, it's not like every other super car hasn't met a fiery demise on the roads, way past the testing phase.
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Yumcha (01-12-2015)
#4768
Azine Jabroni
K...I should level my comment: Firstly, the fiery death of the NSX was more tongue-in-cheek snarking about the car that has been in development since Ron A was born. That's all. I mean, yeah...a test car that goes poof into a fiery ball should be just that...during test and we expect flaws/faults to occur. Better that than during production. Still for a car that was in development since forever, many of us had to giggle at it turning into a bonfire on the track just a few months back.
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And completely agree...this is why the bonfire on the 'Ring was kinda sadly laughable. The car was in dev for so long (longer than any car I can think of) and this close to the show, it burns to a crisp? Yow.
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Anyone else get really tired of the "corporate speak" in that video? For me, the especially nauseating thing was the repeated reference to Acura's "core values"...as if they've elucidated what those are and how they've shaped the company in the past, not to mention why we should care what they are now.
Oh, and the sycophantic appealing to the American market had to be a turnoff to anyone outside the U.S.
Oh, and the sycophantic appealing to the American market had to be a turnoff to anyone outside the U.S.
#4774
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Acura just announced a sports car with *550+ hp* and you guys are still mostly "meh" about it. You'll never be happy with Acura for your own bitter reasons and always stay cemented in your views. And that's a shame. When word of this new NSX first started swirling, I am pretty sure we thought it would have around 400 hp. Yes that was some years ago, before the current state of HP. But even said, 550 is generous.
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you forgot we are the haters....
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Acura just announced a sports car with *550+ hp* and you guys are still mostly "meh" about it. You'll never be happy with Acura for your own bitter reasons and always stay cemented in your views. And that's a shame. When word of this new NSX first started swirling, I am pretty sure we thought it would have around 400 hp. Yes that was some years ago, before the current state of HP. But even said, 550 is generous.
No weight. No torque. Just a vaguely saying it'll be around a certain number for just horsepower.
After all this time. This is after they "hyped" the car in 2012's Superbowl ad with Seinfeld.
As an enthusiast of the brand and what it represented in racing and performance vehicles and seeing what the fleet is NOW, most of us have of course are disenchanted. You then get a car model, the NSX, announced and it goes into some development purgatory similar to Duke Nukem and after all this time, we get in today's "big" reveal is a nice exterior and a half-baked info on the specs/performance of the car.
So, you want to call us cemented in our views? Okiedokie smoky.
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Acura just announced a sports car with *550+ hp* and you guys are still mostly "meh" about it. You'll never be happy with Acura for your own bitter reasons and always stay cemented in your views. And that's a shame. When word of this new NSX first started swirling, I am pretty sure we thought it would have around 400 hp. Yes that was some years ago, before the current state of HP. But even said, 550 is generous.
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Nearly 3 years later, we have an UPDATED looking exterior...from the 2012 ad...and still...no performance specs or engine numbers.
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I'll stop having such a jaded tone when Honda truly steps up at the plate. GIVE US SOMETHING TO CHEER ABOUT. Not vagueness. How is a reasonable request like that...after ALL THIS TIME (from concept to Detroit's car show today)...being "cemented" in our views?
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I'll stop having such a jaded tone when Honda truly steps up at the plate. GIVE US SOMETHING TO CHEER ABOUT. Not vagueness. How is a reasonable request like that...after ALL THIS TIME (from concept to Detroit's car show today)...being "cemented" in our views?
#4781
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Call me a "cemented hater".
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The design...it'll look cool in person like the concept. BUT it will look dated in a few years. I'll bet money on it. The OG NSX is timeless.
I'm sure the TT V6 Hybrid will be an awesome drive and Im glad they kept it mid mounted.
But overall I still have to say meh. And at $120-$180...fail. Even the Viper had learn the hard way and drop its price.
I'm sure the TT V6 Hybrid will be an awesome drive and Im glad they kept it mid mounted.
But overall I still have to say meh. And at $120-$180...fail. Even the Viper had learn the hard way and drop its price.
#4783
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If they felt the need to put 295's out back, I can make a deduction that it's gonna be plenty fast. I can also make a deduction that this is an exciting model from Acura.
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yeah, the price is kind of a doozy. heh
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#4786
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The design...it'll look cool in person like the concept. BUT it will look dated in a few years. I'll bet money on it. The OG NSX is timeless.
I'm sure the TT V6 Hybrid will be an awesome drive and Im glad they kept it mid mounted.
But overall I still have to say meh. And at $120-$180...fail. Even the Viper had learn the hard way and drop its price.
I'm sure the TT V6 Hybrid will be an awesome drive and Im glad they kept it mid mounted.
But overall I still have to say meh. And at $120-$180...fail. Even the Viper had learn the hard way and drop its price.
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#4788
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with the new GTR and ZR1 coming... we will soon forget about NSX even existed.... except the Honda Fanboys... too bad NSX is so expensive most of the HONDA fanboys won't be able to afford it.
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By the time this comes out, the next R8 will be on sale and will probably be faster, lighter, and cheaper. The NSX had a lot of promise but now it is in a battlefield where other cars present a compelling alternative.
$170K gets into base 911 Turbo range.
This car should be competing at the $100-120K range.
I don't like the GT at all. This looks nicer.
$170K gets into base 911 Turbo range.
This car should be competing at the $100-120K range.
I don't like the GT at all. This looks nicer.
I'm thinking the new R8 V10 will be very similar in specs to the new Lambo Huracan, which is roughly 600hp. The current R8 coupe V10 starts at $153k and gets close to $200k for a loaded R8 V10 plus coupe. I'm not sure if the NSX will be higher than that.
If that truly is Honda's logic, it is IMO, stupid. Push to be the new benchmark...why always follow? If that's the case, they may as well never release the car cuz, well...oh snap, Ferrari released the next gen. Italia...we should WAIT FOR THE next-next gen Italia...no wait...the next-next-next gen. Italia. No...the next-next-next-next-to-infinity Italia.
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It's not really rocket science that the GTR, R8, and 458 are due for an update very soon. For instance, the 458 replacement will be shown at the Geneva Auto Show on March 15th. It's said to have 650+hp from a TT V8. This is not waiting for the next next next next next next gen of 458 before releasing details. This is just 2 months from now.
Acura claimed that the NSX will deliver 458 performance at R8 price. I think it's foolish if that's still the case since the 458 is getting a replacement. Perhaps Acura sees this too and so they also want to make sure the NSX doesn't get left behind badly by the 458 replacement.
It's been 3 years or so since the first NSX concept, waiting for a few more months is nothing IMO.
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I'm more interested in seeing the laptime at Nurburgring as well as real world driving feedback from different publications. They talk so much about driving fun, car and driver interaction and BS like that, I wanna see if it's all BS or what.
Acura just announced a sports car with *550+ hp* and you guys are still mostly "meh" about it. You'll never be happy with Acura for your own bitter reasons and always stay cemented in your views. And that's a shame. When word of this new NSX first started swirling, I am pretty sure we thought it would have around 400 hp. Yes that was some years ago, before the current state of HP. But even said, 550 is generous.
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I'm actually surprised that potential buyers will have options to outfit it out the way they want instead of the usual packages that Acura makes you buy whether you like it or not.
#4792
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thinking about it more, the starting price of $150k is completely reasonable, for this car with these specs, in 2015. The last model of the 1st gen was knocking on $100k, no?
Also, my apologies if the word "cement" strikes a nerve with you. Bad experience?
Also, my apologies if the word "cement" strikes a nerve with you. Bad experience?
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Who is *you* in the sentence above?
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I love the front and side profile, BUT that rear looks FUGLY as heck. No wonder they really tried to hide that rear in photo shots. Whomever approved that rear design needs to be re-educated.
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Anyone else really hate that rear look?
Also in general, not so hot on all these supercars coming out with "hybrid" and electric motors. Instant torque is definitely awesome, but top speed and weight are down sides. I'd like all-motor supercars.
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#4798
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I know, the new McLaren car as well. I am not into those cars at all...for some reason just doesn't excite me as much as say the new Viper/Hellcat/Koenigsegg/etc.
Yeah. I think Honda should've really re-did the rear end design on the NSX. Not in line with the sexy front look at all. Stubby little tail lights that just looks like a accord taillight squeezed into the rear bumper and then just slap a big Acura emblem in the middle, ok done.
Yeah. I think Honda should've really re-did the rear end design on the NSX. Not in line with the sexy front look at all. Stubby little tail lights that just looks like a accord taillight squeezed into the rear bumper and then just slap a big Acura emblem in the middle, ok done.
#4799
I feel the need...
The interior is pretty weak for a $155k+ car. The concept interior was much nicer and more elegant.
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