Mugen.Justice

^I was under the impression that she was in charge of exterior design.




You know, I was on the bandwagon of ZDX haters when it was in production (I cheered when it was axed). Over the years my tastes have changed, and the ZDX grew on me a lot - I appreciate for what it was, and I'm actually bummed that it's no longer in production.


So, because of that, I retract whatever negative opinions I had on Christensen's design. I didn't realize she worked on the new NSX (I thought she moved to GM?)


Is it perfect? Not quite - I don't like the 4-in-1 exhaust tips. I'd prefer the single big one (but on a positive note, HEY LOOK, NO HIDDEN EXHAUSTS!) I don't like the Jewel-Eye cluster + LED DRL...I think the Jewel-Eye looks cleaner as a stand-alone cluster (like in the concept photos). I think the side intakes could be larger, more aggressive.


With all that said, you know what, I think she did a fine job on the final version. She integrated the beak, but kept it to a minimum (come on, that's no small feat!). I love the front and side profile stance. And the rear? I like it (apart from the exhaust mentioned above). It's clean, understated. I really think the Accord-tails comparisons are a bit much...



Overall? I think it's hot. Unfortunate that Acura decided to reveal it after the Ford GT, but people just need to stop with the dick-measuring. The automotive world just got two of its beloved iconic cars back. Let's celebrate that, no?


With all that said, let's hand the keys over to Fernando and Jenson for them to thrash a pair of NSXes at Suzuka.


Agreed, who does Acura think they're fooling? Any enthusiast (Acura, or otherwise) can detect that line of fluff a mile out. Reminds me of Marek's comments about how they "need
a sport car, not a sports car" or how they need "to tell the world that Acura is a performance brand."

Fibonacci

I recall reading she had moved on too, but they brought her back? If she designed the interior, I stand corrected.


Agreed, no need for the added strip. Last years concept looked cleaner.

Agreed on the plenum minimization, that is a definite plus.





Now let's talk shoes, shall we...

Fibonacci

ttribe's mo is he's always looking for an implied personal insult to defend.

MTEAZY

I have faith that this will be a great car. Will it be like a 911 GT3? No. Will it be like a Ferrari 458? No. Will it be like a BMW i8? I hope not.


It will be an Acura NSX. It will be a perennially underrated, mediocre in a straight line, slow-selling, unpretentious, overpriced Honduh. That doesn't mean it won't be a great car though.

I'm just tired of waiting.

Fibonacci

Cue teh BRZ mafia.

Mugen.Justice

Personally, if they were going to spend money on celebrity appearances...I would've shelled out the extra $$ for Robert Downey Jr. Roll out in full Tony Stark mode, make a splash like only Tony can.

ttribe

Okay.

Oh, shut up.

Steven Bell

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I watched it live....anti-climactic now.

jwong77

It's got a tailpipe! Seriously though, it's hard to get excited by a car that far out of my price range. Come on Honda, capitalize on this halo car by making more attainable cars with good performance!

suspekt360

Personally, I think the Ford GT looks kinda goofy and some elements seem rushed. Tadge Jeuchter went as far as to say some elements on the exterior will have to change.
Don't get me wrong, I love the last gen GT.

I think they nailed the NSX exterior.

I am pissed however, they didn't reveal specs.

Maybe the silver lining here is that they will be able "up" the final stats depending on future reveals from Audi/Ferrari. The Geneva motor show will be interesting.

HDNBenjamin

I agree! It is a shame reading this thread and I see the same people hating, and going out of their way to find anything to be critical of, yet these folks cannot pony up the money to buy the new NSX or its competitors. I am extremely pleased with the new NSX, and I think Acura has done a great job executing not only the gorgeous styling, but also the technological hybrid drivetrain. I have, myself, been critical of Acura's poor executions in years past, but I must give credit where credit is due. Great job on the new NSX, and I look forward to new products from Acura, in hope of seeing the same brilliance displayed in the NSX on future models.

MeehowsBRZ

lol, so if someone can't afford a car they're not allowed to talk about it. That's the douchiest fanboy logic I've heard in a while.

Yumcha

No one has "hated" on the car per se. Just griping that Honda sure could've stopped being so tongue-in-cheek with the car's specifications?

That's not hating.

No one is saying this car sucks. No idea where srika, you and others are perceiving that in today's reveal.

Yumcha

It is a strong word. It solidifies and bonds. Let's see you get out of a cement block.

Yumcha

Legend2TL

Minor correction, the NSX's production motor initially came out with 3L 270HP and already had VTEC, later 3.2L and 300HP.

Legend2TL

+1, I'm a little biased and didn't care for the Ford GT 1G too much (too retro) in person or pictures. The GT 2G looks better but still sorta reminds me of "Speed Racer"

The NSX looks good overall, the beak got toned down which is good. In pictures the lines flow pretty well. It's not too retro to the 1G NSX, and introduced some new original elements. Interior I also like, tasteful and not too busy like the 1G.

Legend2TL

Some interesting tech notes

1. 75o V6, weird angle for balance but it's a purpose built block and not a J series with DOHC heads
2. CF floor pans like the C7, 2D component which works well for production and curing ovens
3. The rear transaxle is huge, know it integrates the rear electric drive motor but it's really big
4. Gordon Murray would complain the steering rack is in front of the axle. Not the best for mass centralization, although the brake calipers are mounted toward the center.
5. Nice to see 6/4 piston calipers and cermaic composite brakes which I assume are standard
6. Batteries are in the same place as the P1 (behind the seats)
7. Presume the suspension will be DWB front/rear
   

juniorbean

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It was b/c of this I could not stand to watch the entire video. I did watch it hoping to get info... but I felt like I was in a meeting at an MLM company and not one of the most important automotive launches to get Acura back on the map. The best part of the video was near the beginning when it was just sitting on the turntable revving its engine. But once the "presentation" started, all excitement quickly turned to boredom.

Also, and I have not looked at the styling very carefully... but I would have thought there would be more nods to the original NSX in its design. Other then part of the taillight running the width of the rear, I'm not seeing anything. I always thought car companies would pay homage to a previous model when they resurrect it with some design elements, but I could be missing it...

Rockstar21

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they're on the same planet too, whats your point?

there wasn't exactly an international automotive competition during WWII

MeehowsBRZ

Can we expect full specs at Geneva? Its kind of weird to me that they showed basically the same car we've seen since 2011 (with nice wheels and a real color for once!) and still no actual performance numbers.

fsttyms1

As long as they dont market it as "Its that kind of Thrill" then give us something average ill wait to pass overall judgment. Styling, doesnt look bad, wish the rear had a little more something. Power, i can see why they didnt release actual figures. They have some time to up them, lets see what some of the upcoming competition starts releasing. Sounds like there is some room to bump the figures up. Curb weight would have been nice to know to give a little indication of its possibilities. I hope by them bench marking certain cars, they far exceeded them so that they arent trailing the upcoming models being released.

fsttyms1

Oh im sure they will take that color off the boxes to check when buying. Just like they did with the TLX

Rockstar21

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im just excited they didn't go full derp on the wheels like they do on most cars these days.

FamilyGuy

Luv the exterior and interior design, though the seats' shoulders look a bit large and bulky on the photos, and performance numbers look solid. What's up with the wheel design? That style's been around for a while. New wheels and this car will look even better.

$150k price tag

Rockstar21

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somebody made the GTA V version.

FamilyGuy

Bring back the concept's steering wheel please - at least do perforated leather on the sides and a CF piece up top. And maybe the black plastic grill pieces' design too, this one looks a bit chicken wire.

This car will look butter with just a few touches.

Now, if only Acura would carry this ideology / performance to other models...

RPhilMan1

Why did they include the silver beak? It would look much better with just the black grille there.

Just curious, but why is that so?

Rockstar21

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radiation I hear

Ken1997TL

Lack of children. Too much hentai.

kurtatx

Please. A halo car is no good if they don't borrow pieces of it for the lower models.

savage

I've got to disagree with you. It should define the direction of future models. Lower models should inherit the design traits and advancement of the halo car.

This is Acura's opportunity to be a bit risky and try some new things, rather than dig into the existing parts bin.

Lexus used the LFA to drive their new look and direction. Audi did it with the R8. BMW is doing it with the i8.

ttribe

It was a pointless response to your pointless statement. They deserved one another.

TacoBello

There are some other things, such as, the "NSX" badge on the side glass of the car... It's more or less in the same place the 1G had. Also, with the side rear windows, the whole glass section (at least from the side) has that fighter jet look to it like he 1G had. Beyond that, yeah, it's pretty much all new.

03sixer

If you're correcting someone you should have all the facts straight. And, the auto DID only have 252HP so he could've been talking about that one. The later 3.2 bumped it to only 290 not 300.

MeehowsBRZ

I think the GT looks way more like an NSX successor than the actual NSX.


For once in my life I actually like the stock wheels on an Acura more than aftermarket ones.

Ken1997TL

The original statement was correct, please re-read it.

VTEC was added before final production to increase the power from about 250 hp to 270 hp.

srika

nice list.

also not sure it was mentioned the oddity of unequal half shafts at the rear..
Yeah pretty happy with the wheels on the final version. One thing I hated on the concepts were the wheels. While the final version is similar to today's popular designs, I don't have a problem with that because it works with the car.

Rockstar21

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oh.... so its like dividing 0

iforyou

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NA1 came out with 270hp. the 4AT model had 252hp. And the NA2 6MT had 290hp in North America. All of that is true.

But I wasn't talking about that. Like Ken is saying, VTEC wasn't in the 1989 NSX prototype, and that limited the output to 250hp. However, in response to the rumours that Ferrari would upgrade its 270hp 328GTB to 300 hp 348tb, VTEC was eventually carried over from the Japan-bounded CRX and Integra, hence adding 20 more horses.

Does that sound familiar? Ferrari is upgrading (replacing) the 458 Italia with something else that makes 650hp, and if the original goal of the NSX is 580hp, then Acura might need to respond with upping the output too. If Acura had announced 580hp yesterday, and the 458 Italia comes with 650hp, then Acura would have to FOLLOW Ferrari. Apparently, "FOLLOW" is not what people here want.

I think if it was NA, the ideally 90 degrees would be good for lower CG.

But with TT, 75 degrees allows for better packaging to go 75 degree by providing more room for the two turbos and piping between the heads and the floor. Going to 60 degrees would mean higher/worse CG.

The Honda/HPD Indy HR22t and HR22tt have the same 75 degree angle.

I think the tradeoff is smoothness. But that's fine since this is a sports car, not a luxury sedan.