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Old 09-23-2011, 11:50 AM
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Keep using extremes 80 and read the thread title.

Your wrong, deal with it and move on. You should be used to that by now.

Are you saying Acura never sold a V6 body on frame RWD SUV?

YOU claimed Honda never sold a V8 SUV, and I showed you where they did. So who was WRONG?

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Old 09-23-2011, 11:52 AM
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YES! That's exactly what I'm saying.

Why bother.
Old 09-23-2011, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
YES! That's exactly what I'm saying.

Why bother.
I don't know why you "TRY"!


It's like that goober on TOV complaining that Acura isn't building a Maybach competitor!
Old 09-23-2011, 11:58 AM
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Yes 80Honda, why doesn't Acura have a V12, V16 and V24 RWD cars with 1million and 1 HP.That's what all of us complainers are looking for right? We're never happy, Honda is perfect. Its us who want too much!!!

Hail Honda!!!

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Old 09-23-2011, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Yes 80Honda, why doesn't Acura have a V12, V16 and V24 RWD cars with 1million and 1 HP.That's what all of us complainers are looking for right? We're never happy, Honda is perfect. Its us who want too much!!!

Hail Honda!!!

Still haven't figured out why you were banned from TOV have you?

WHY,
Because I wasn't a whinny little bitch about every single thing Honda does like that kid DCR over there.
Old 09-23-2011, 12:33 PM
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^^ again...?
Old 09-23-2011, 01:33 PM
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Honda is so awesome it hurts sometimes...well most of the time it hurts.

Hyundai, Toyota/Scion, and Subaru will soon all have sports cars again soon. Don't worry guys, Honda will catch on in 2016 or so after the market is saturated and buyers wallets are depleted.
Old 09-23-2011, 01:45 PM
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let's take it ramblings and let the forum vote...
Old 09-23-2011, 02:07 PM
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who says im complaining?i just found it funny how the post was literally originally posted 3 years ago.i actually think a sports car is coming back in 2014 considering there were prototypes made, 1 of which iron man drives instead of an audi in some marvel movie coming out.hopefully acura don't so something stupid like GM did with transformers 2(corvette stingray made strictly for the movie and wasn't even thought of being put into production)
Old 09-23-2011, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by aimtimes100
who says im complaining?i just found it funny how the post was literally originally posted 3 years ago.i actually think a sports car is coming back in 2014 considering there were prototypes made, 1 of which iron man drives instead of an audi in some marvel movie coming out.hopefully acura don't so something stupid like GM did with transformers 2(corvette stingray made strictly for the movie and wasn't even thought of being put into production)
Don't worry about the trolls

Some of us open our eyes to the thin veil of bullshit that automakers call marketing. There are automakers who go above and beyond what is expected (Lexus LF-A, Nissan GT-R) and other manufacturers who simply don't.

I think once the founder Soichiro Honda passed away, the carmaker part of the company has become more conservative. At least going off of what I've seen and read. I do admire their desire to keep manual transmissions in their cars though.
Old 09-23-2011, 04:22 PM
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I think a few have gone full retard
Old 09-23-2011, 04:33 PM
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They went a step too far in the conservative direction

I feel as if alot of the people here who are showing disdain for honda are the honda fans of days past who have been shunned and ignored by a company without a sense of direction

Imagine if the ft-86 was a honda venture? If it were the new prelude or something?

I hope honda gets their shit together in the immediate future.
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Originally Posted by KillerG
They went a step too far in the conservative direction

I feel as if alot of the people here who are showing disdain for honda are the honda fans of days past who have been shunned and ignored by a company without a sense of direction

Imagine if the ft-86 was a honda venture? If it were the new prelude or something?

I hope honda gets their shit together in the immediate future.
Bolded - If only. It's what we would expect Honda to build, and precisely what we didn't think Toyota would build. At least IMO.

I kind of see it like this.... really loose analogy. Honda is like an adopted child of sorts to many of us, one that we've held close to our hearts at one point or another. Thus, in that same vein you wouldn't yell at or overly praise other peoples' kids, but you'd be more critical of and interested towards your own.

Then there are others who defend their children to the point of insanity. Even if their children were convicted repeat sex offenders or murderers, they would still sing praises about them
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Lightbulb Acura: AcuraLink news **App Launched (Page 1)**


The new AcuraLink Owner's Mobile App introduced today is available to all owners of Acura automobiles. Initial features for the AcuraLink Owner's App will mainly support Acura's Roadside Assistance Program, to assist Acura owners whose cars are in distress. In general, services include towing, lockout assistance, battery jump-start, tire change and fuel delivery.

Under this initiative, Acura owners can instantly access roadside-assistance services through this new iPhone app.

"Roadside assistance is now available at the push of a button with this user-friendly application. This is another example of the flexibility, speed and expertise Acura clients have come to expect from our products, services and our brand," said Charles Kendig, Acura Division's assistant VP for National Fixed Operations.

The Apple Inc. iPhone app was produced in conjunction with Acura's roadside assistance partner, Cross Country Automotive Services. Specific service options are articulated by the car company to Acura owners via its sign-and-drive program.

"Acura owners highly value design and engineering innovations within their vehicles, and Cross Country is excited to provide technology that enables Acura owners to easily obtain dependable roadside assistance service and related information when they need it," said David Ferrick, Cross Country's senior VP and general manager of Insurance Services and Automotive Markets.

Acura owners can use the new AcuraLink Roadside Assistance app to view scheduled time of arrival and contact information for the tow truck being sent to help them, as well as an assigned reference number so a dispatcher can look up what's going on on the computer, an Acura spokesman said. The app also offers the driver a priority emergency button for urgent situations.

Acura owners can use the app to seek roadside service at any time of the day or night, including weekends and holidays.

The AcuraLink Owner's App is available for download at the App Store or through Acura.com at http//owners.acura.com/acuralink/roadside.

Acura sells its cars in America from a network of 271 dealers. The 2012 Acura lineup includes the RL luxury performance sedan, TL luxury performance sedan, TSX sports sedan and Sport Wagon, RDX luxury crossover SUV, MDX luxury SUV and ZDX sports coupe.

Cross Country Automotive Services manages roadside-assistance programs for car companies and others in the U.S. It manages at least 6 million service calls per year.

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Old 11-21-2011, 06:31 PM
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^^^^^ "Transmission Failure" - a term the 2G TL/CL owners are very familiar with.
Old 11-22-2011, 12:25 PM
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Exclamation dont forget about Drrrrooooiiiiiiiiddddd...

what about Android...?
Old 11-22-2011, 12:45 PM
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I'm with VeNeNo... don't have/want i-phone. Android coming soon?
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Very cool !!!!
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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
Very cool !!!!
It would be doubly cool if they could add a tab that could take clients to the 'how-to' videos to assist with the tech features in the cars.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:36 PM
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Am I correct at saying the Iphone still doesn't connect with Acura Link in the car? I know When I first got my 2010 MDX they told me the Iphone would link up by bluetooth but it wouldn't connect to Acura Link because they didn't support the Iphone. I told them at that time Acura must be pretty stupid for not working out something for the Millions of Iphone users.
Old 11-23-2011, 10:49 PM
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Am I correct at saying the Iphone still doesn't connect with Acura Link in the car?
I probably should know this for sure, but doesn't AcuraLink connect through XM?
Old 11-26-2011, 10:18 PM
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I just got my wife an RDX and we are having some difficulty with connecting to Acura link and loading the iPhone address book

I don't know if it's because the dealer selected AT&T rather than previously Cingular during setup. Does anyone know how to go back to that screen? We deleted the profile but it somehow is retaining my phones info?
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Question Ax2


I got an Anonymous tip that the spied sub-TSX sedan will be the Acura AX2.

ACURA AX2
By: Honda Motor Co., Ltd.


Automobiles and structural parts therefor
Perfect for these industries

Words that describe this logo

Vehicles and Products for locomotion by land, air or water

automobiles structural parts therefor

This is a brand page for the ACURA AX2 trademark by Honda Motor Co., Ltd. in Tokyo, , 107-8556. Write a review about a product or service associated with this ACURA AX2 trademark. Or, contact the owner Honda Motor Co., Ltd. of the ACURA AX2 trademark by filing a request to communicate with the Legal Correspondent for licensing, use, and/or questions related to the ACURA AX2 trademark.

On Friday, April 08, 2011, a U.S. federal trademark registration was filed for ACURA AX2 by Honda Motor Co., Ltd., Tokyo 107-8556. The USPTO has given the ACURA AX2 trademark serial number of 85290733. The current federal status of this trademark filing is NOTICE OF ALLOWANCE - ISSUED. The correspondent listed for ACURA AX2 is ANTHONY L. FLETCHER of FISH & RICHARDSON P.C., PO BOX 1022, MINNEAPOLIS, MN 55440-1022 . The ACURA AX2 trademark is filed in the category of Vehicles and Products for locomotion by land, air or water . The description provided to the USPTO for ACURA AX2 is Automobiles and structural parts therefor.

Word Mark: ACURA AX2
Status/
Status Date:
NOTICE OF ALLOWANCE - ISSUED
10/18/2011
Serial Number: 85290733
Filing Date: 4/8/2011
Registration Number: NOT AVAILABLE
Registration Date: NOT AVAILABLE
Goods and Services: Automobiles and structural parts therefor
Mark Description: NOT AVAILABLE
Type Of Mark: TradeMark
Published For Opposition Date: 8/23/2011
Last Applicant/Owner: Honda Motor Co., Ltd.
Tokyo 107-8556

Mark Drawing Code: Standard Character Mark
Design Search: (NO DATA)
Register Type: Principal
Disclaimer: (NOT AVAILABLE)
Correspondent:
ANTHONY L. FLETCHER
FISH & RICHARDSON P.C.
PO BOX 1022
MINNEAPOLIS, MN 55440-1022

Classification Information
International Class Code(s): 012
US Class Code(s): 019, 021, 023, 031, 035, 044
Primary Class: Vehicles; apparatus for locomotion by land, air, or water.
Class(es) Status: Active
First Use Anywhere: NOT PROVIDED
First Use In Commerce: NOT PROVIDED

Source: MyTradeMarkia.com

Thanks Anonymous!
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:03 AM
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Acura's lawyers are in Minn?
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The AX2, I thought that was the designation for the new NSX after it got the axe for the second time...
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i would laugh so hard if it was a SUV/CUV or a hybrid!
Old 11-29-2011, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX69

I got an Anonymous tip that the spied sub-TSX sedan will be the Acura AX2.
[CENTER]
ACURA AX2
By: Honda Motor Co., Ltd.

Source: MyTradeMarkia.com

Thanks Anonymous!
Recall there were rumors (2 months ago?) that the TSX was getting the axe after it's current run is done. At first, I gave this little credence but then I started hearing about a new naming convention for Acura's . This information jibs with what I've been hearing. There is one factor (IMO) that could make it a reality... or at least closer to reality.

What if Acura decided that they wanted to lower the prices of it's sedan product across the board? If they were to introduce a new 26K TSX and 32K TL, it could significantly disrupt the resale values of the current cars in the marketplace.

If they were to introduce a 'new' model with a new name, it could fill the role of the TSX at a lower price point, and not hurt the resale of the current ones coming off lease. Then, in 2014 when its cycle is done, the TSX fades away and the AX2 or whatever continues on and the AX3 (TL replacement) joins the family.
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Ax2 Ax3 are kinda cool names, maybe the nsx will be called AXX
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TOKYO, Japan, November 30, 2011 - Honda Motor Co., Ltd. today announced the outline for a revolutionary next-generation technology for automobiles called "Earth Dreams Technology."

"Earth Dreams Technology" is a next generation set of technological advancements which greatly enhance both driving performance and fuel efficiency at a high level, using as its base advanced environmental technologies to pursue the joy of driving unique to Honda. It is a series of measures in which efficiency of internal combustion components including engine, and transmission, as well as electric-powered motor technology, is further improved.

Through its implementation 1st in the mini-vehicle N BOX and gradually onto other vehicle models, Honda aims to achieve top-of-industry fuel efficiency for every category within three years, while simultaneously setting a timeline of 2020 to reduce by 30% CO2 emissions for all products sold worldwide, relative to emission figures for 2000.

Inspiration of the "Earth Dreams Technology" name:
"Earth Dreams Technology" is an expression for a set of technologies which takes into account both our need to protect the environment and our desire to provide a joy of driving.

•Key features of “Earth Dreams Technology”
1. A gasoline engine which realizes top level driving performance and fuel efficiency.
2. A compact diesel engine which realizes the world's lightest body*1, top-of-class*1 acceleration performance and fuel efficiency.
3. CVT which combines at a high level the fun of driving and fuel efficiency.
4. A 2-motor hybrid system which realizes top-of-industry efficiency*1.
5. A high-efficiency, high output electric SH-AWD hybrid system which combines superior driving and environmental performance.
6. A compact, high efficiency electric powertrain for EVs.

•Summary of key features

1. Gasoline engine which achieves top-of-industry driving performance and fuel efficiency


By enhancing Honda's original VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control System) technology to thoroughly improve thermal efficiency and minimize friction, a combination of high output and fuel efficiency was achieved. Further, a new engine series employing a new structure for higher expandability was developed.
By gradually renewing the engine starting with the mini-vehicle N BOX, Honda aims to utilize this technology to achieve top-of-industry output and fuel efficiency in every vehicle class within three years.
A wide range of engine classes including the 660cc, 1.3L, 1.5L, 1.8L, 2.0L, 2.4L, and 3.5L classes will feature the technology.

[ 660cc class engine ]

Employs DOHC and VTC (Variable Timing Control) to improve intake efficiency. Further, the compact combustion chamber realizes high thermal efficiency.
By shortening the bore pitch compared to the present engine models and reducing the thickness of the cylinder block and camshaft, engine weight is reduced by 15%*3 and fuel efficiency is improved by 10%*3.

[ 1.3 to 1.5L class engine ]

Employs VTC, direct injection technology and the Atkinson cycle using the DOHC, VTEC technologies as the base.
Extensive friction reduction measures are implemented.

[ 1.8 to 2.0L class engine ]

Employs direct injection technology and the Atkinson cycle using the DOHC, VTEC technologies as the base. Further, implementation of VTC and high-capacity EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) to both the intake and exhaust ports realizes significantly reduced friction.
For the 2.0L class hybrid vehicle engines, use of an electric water pump eliminates the need for a belt in the auxiliary device and contributes to a reduction in friction. The VTC system allows fuel-efficient driving in various driving styles.

[ 2.4L class engine ]

Based on the DOHC and VTEC technologies, it employs VTC and direct injection technology and implements extensive friction reduction measures.
Standalone engine features 5%*3 improvements in fuel efficiency and output as well as a 10%*3 improvement in maximum torque compared to the previous engine.

[ 3.5L class engine ]

Employs new valve train mechanisms and direct injection technology in the SOHC, VTEC, VMC systems to improve by over 10%*3 of fuel efficiency and 5%*3 of output, relative to the present standalone engine model.

2. A compact diesel engine which realizes the world's lightest body*1, top-of-class*1 acceleration performance and fuel efficiency.

Through optimizing engine rigidity and combustion pressure, an aluminum open deck for the cylinder block was enabled in this top-of-industry lightweight*1 1.6L class diesel engine.
By downsizing from the present 2.2L engine and extensively reducing mechanical friction in each section, a friction level equivalent to present gasoline engine models was achieved.
Optimized thermal management system thanks to improvements in the cooling system reduces CO2 output by over 15%*3.
Employment of a compact, high-efficiency turbocharger and weight reduction in the reciprocating sliding section realizes a sporty and nimble ride.

3. CVT which combines at a high level the fun of driving and fuel efficiency.


3 CVT structures for mini, compact, and mid-size vehicle classes are newly developed to be adopted for a variety of engine models.
Reinforced belt is used to realize a structure for which a wide ratio range can be set.
Implementation of analysis technology over the contact behavior between the belt and pulley, and a high-precision hydraulic control system allows for continual optimization of hydraulic pressure to the pulley under a variety of driving conditions, contributing to improved fuel efficiency.
Use of an electronic oil pump to realize an idle stop system with high response contributes significantly to improved usability and fuel efficiency.
"G-Design Shift", a new coordinated control system for shift transmission, throttle, and hydraulic control responds quickly to driver demands and realizes an exhilarating, sporty drive with superior acceleration.
In the mini-vehicle class, a control mechanism and innovations in axle placement to reduce the engine size lengthwise, while a reduction in parts by simplifying the transmission casing structure helps realize a lightweight and compact body.
For the compact and mid-size classes, in addition to the reductions in size and weight, transmission efficiency was greatly improved by expanding the ratio range to achieve fuel efficiency improvements of 5%*3 and 10%*3 compared to the conventional CVT and comparable 5ATs, respectively.

4. A 2-motor hybrid system which realizes top-of-industry efficiency*1.


A 2-motor hybrid system featuring top-of-industry efficiency*1 enhancing driving performance and reduced CO2 emissions has been newly developed.
Special lithium-ion battery and charger is employed to enable mounting on plug-in hybrid vehicles.
Mid-sized vehicles equipped with this system are scheduled to begin production, starting with the plug-in hybrid model in 2012 and the hybrid model in 2013.
Three driving modes allowing for top-of-industry efficiency*1 for various driving environments were developed; an "EV driving mode" for urban environments, a "hybrid driving mode" using electricity generated by the motor, and a "engine-connected driving mode" where the engine and tires are mechanically connected during high-speed cruising.
Combination with a high-output 120kW motor allows for superior environmental performance and driving enjoyment.

5. A high-efficiency, high output electric SH-AWD hybrid system which combines superior driving and environmental performance
.

A new hybrid system, electric SH-AWD, was developed for large-sized vehicles. By combining a 3.5L, V6 engine with this hybrid system, acceleration equivalent to V8 engines, as well as fuel efficiency equal or superior to in-line 4-cylinder engines were realized.
An electric 4WD system with independent 20kW+ motors on both sides for the rear wheels combines a 7-speed dual clutch transmission system with a built-in 30kW+ high-efficiency motor with the engine.
By mounting a high-performance lithium-ion battery and optimally controlling the front and rear motors, a new hybrid system with high fuel efficiency and output was realized.
By mounting two independent motors in the rear and employing a newly developed bilateral torque adjustable control system, incredibly tight cornering just like driving "on-the-rail" is realized. With this mechanism, Honda strives to provide a stable ride for various driving environments.

6. A compact, high efficiency electric powertrain for EVs.


Thanks to the high efficiency coaxial motor, low-friction gearbox and electric servo brake system, the system realizes the highest electrical consumption capability in the world*1, meeting the required AC consumption rate of 29kWh/100mile(116MPGe) as set forth by the United States.
A traveling distance of 123 miles*2(LA-4mode: unadjusted) or 210km*2(JC08 mode) was achieved thanks to the mounting of a high capacity lithium-ion battery.
When using the 240V U.S. electric source, a full charge takes less than 3 hours. (From the time a low-charge signal is lit till full charge)
By offering three driving modes (SPORT, NORMAL, ECON), the driver can freely select from a number of options to meet the needs of various driving styles such as power-saving or sporty drive.


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^^^Perhaps I'm being pessimistic, but I see no room in that discussion for a worthy successor to the NSX. Honda (true) Performance - RIP.
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Finally getting Direct Injection. And a 7 speed dual clutch.

Didn't see anything about a turbo though. Oh well.

Things are finally starting to get interesting.
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Originally Posted by KillerG
Ax2 Ax3 are kinda cool names, maybe the nsx will be called AXX
FWIW, the (assumed) AX3 name was my invention and not any inside info. The interesting thing is there is no mention of new 4 cylinder transmissions (ie 6AT) I wonder if we'll see CVTs for future small cars, and the 6AT and 7DCT as the larger transmissions?
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Maybe a 6AT for Honda (i.e. Accord) and 7DCT for Acura (i.e. TL, RL)?


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Known for its technology innovations, Honda’s R&D efforts have been somewhat lackluster as of late. The Japanese automaker appears to have turned a corner, however, announcing a long list of new engines and technologies.

Easily the most revolutionary is an electric SH-AWD system that will be paired with a new V6 hybrid powertrain and 7-speed dual clutch transmission. Essentially an evolution of the current mechanical Super Handling all-wheel drive found in models like the Acura RL and TL it uses two independent electric motors at the rear wheels, each producing 20 kW, operating independently of the front gasoline engine and hybrid system. Like the current SH-AWD system it can deliver more power to the outside wheel in a corner for maximum cornering performance – but there’s more. Rather than simply limit the power sent to the inside wheel in a corner, the system actually generates electricity at that wheel, sending it to the outside wheel. A car fitted with this new two-mode hybrid system would also be capable of an electric only acceleration at speeds of up to 40 km/h (25 mph).

Honda claims this setup delivers V8-like power and acceleration at fuel economy levels as good as or better than current four-cylinder engines. When questioned, engineers on hand at a demonstration event at Twin Ring Motegi commented that we should expect fuel economy to be roughly 30 percent better than a similar V6. Taking the Honda Accord as an example, the current model achieves a 20/30 mpg city/highway rating, so we can expect a a future product equipped with this system to deliver roughly 26/39 mpg – although that number is likely optimistic as a future product would most certainly weigh more than an Accord (this technology is destined for an Acura model), plus there’s the all-wheel drive factor.

The real focus, however, is on delivering performance with reduced fuel economy, a hybrid philosophy similar to that of Lexus. To emphasize this fact, Honda has developed it’s own 7-speed dual clutch transmission. Prototype models available to drive were absent of any self-shifting feature (be it with the gearshift or paddle shifters) but the use of such setups in a production model is highly likely.

So where will we see this impressive new technology? As usual, Honda was coy on specifics, but representatives present did indicate that the new E SH-AWD will arrive in a future Acura model – with the next-generation RL an obvious choice.
Old 11-30-2011, 12:39 AM
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^^I like what I'm reading. Though I hope they make these new transmissions, I hope they can keep 6mt on many of their models, even if the uptake is low.
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
^^I like what I'm reading. Though I hope they make these new transmissions, I hope they can keep 6mt on many of their models, even if the uptake is low.
I hope so too. But because of the stupid fuel economy rules (that can be easily gamed) I think you're stuck with maybe the TL SH-AWD. We haven't seen a RL/Legend with a manual transmission in 17 years. There will hopefully be a halo sports car with the system too. The Acura entry level vehicle balancing that one out with its excellent fuel economy.

It's all a silly numbers game.
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The best news in the last few years from Honda:
there is a strategy for the future of the brand, there is technology (new engines, new transmissions)...
And they are already working on it: not only dreams but reality.
I like it very much.
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Is it just me or does a lot of this sounds a lot like "market speak"? DI, CVT, DCT, diesels - stuff that other makers have had for years now - and now Honda makes this annoucenemnt that - hey look at us, we're doing it too but we'll do it better, stay tuned. Seems just a bit


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