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The dealer said they tested the battery and checked the connections at VSA modulation after the first event.
For what it's worth, Honda/Acura has a long history of battery issues in new Vehicles. They had to replace the battery in my '07 Type-S when it was only a month old. My wife didn't have the problem, but when she got her new Pilot in '18 the Pilot forum was full of electrical issues that all seemed to trace back to the battery.
First wash. Installed the side skirts last weekend, pretty simple. Still debating about getting the matching rear pieces. These wheels are a pain to clean. Can't wait for the Y-spokes to get here!
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Did you have to remove your wheels to install the side skirts?
Nope, just a very small screwdriver. I ended up using a Phillips bit inside of a small socket to fit the gap between the trim and the tire. Also helped pulling the car up on ramps to gain a little extra space under the car to remove the 4 clips holding it in from the bottom.
Nope, just a very small screwdriver. I ended up using a Phillips bit inside of a small socket to fit the gap between the trim and the tire. Also helped pulling the car up on ramps to gain a little extra space under the car to remove the 4 clips holding it in from the bottom.
After 4 months of leasing my TLX, I wanted to do a quick updateon my experience with this vehicle:
I recently had a chance to drive some twisty rural roads in lake country and particularly enjoyed how well this car handles them, especially when powering into the curves. It's my second experience with SH-Awd and AWD in general (15 TLX ) and I would suggest the new version is definitely an upgrade. No doubt the wider tires help;
So buttery smooth and quiet on the highway and in the city, its just a sporty joy to drive;
Everytime I look at this car, inside and out, I smile. So many compliments and so many stares and looks. My fave was a gentleman who was walking by as i parked and got out of the vehicle. He looked and said in an emphatic tone, "That is one great looking automobile". On behalf of Acura, I thanked him I'm glad he didn't use breathtaking;
The car lets me play some and still returns a decent 10.8 Litres/100km average on my refuels, the large majority of use being city.
Being primarily a regular 4 cyclinder owner over the years, I find the torque and additional power to be more than satisfying in all situations. Hwy passing is a breeze in this vehicle, as is getting off the line quickly to change lanes if needed.
The sound system.........hmmmm.....it is utterly fabulous and better than that of any vehicle I have test driven or been a passenger in. i make up errands to drive with tunes.
On the down side.......time to replace another puddle light. They will put some grease around the housing to prevent what is undoubetedly burnt out bulbs caused by moisture sitting there - design flaw. As they pick up my car and drop off a loaner, not a bother under warranty
My USB port occasionally doesn't read my phone for Apple Car Play or a flashdrive. They will replace this week. I really do wish both ports were full USB to keep a flash drive and and my IPhone plugged.
I'll end on a couple of positives. The seats are uber comfy, as expected. Back up camera is sharp and well illuminated at dusk and night.
Not sure why the reviews slammed the use of paddles. They work great for me, as long as you keep the trans in S. I'm usually driving in Sport+ as this keeps the exhaust valves open at all times, better throttle response, and handling. The paddles allow me to keep the rpms at a reasonable level. Sport with the trans in D is fine, but Sport+ runs the engine too high for regular driving. Love the pops on the 1-2, 2-3, and 3-4 shifts. Great sounding car.
Interesting... is there any reason you WOULDN'T want Carplay to start up each time you entered the car? You can always switch out of it by pushing the trackpad home button, I suppose.
I'm interested in hearing if this wireless connection is more stable than the wired one!
Interesting... is there any reason you WOULDN'T want Carplay to start up each time you entered the car? You can always switch out of it by pushing the trackpad home button, I suppose.
I'm interested in hearing if this wireless connection is more stable than the wired one!
100% more stable for me. if the cable wiggled at all it would knock my phone off Carplay and i would have replug it.
Had my first service on the TLX after nearly a year of ownership. Got the inspection report and was curious by the results on the brakes.
Front brakes are in the green at 10 mm. Rear brakes are in the yellow at 6 mm.
Is it typical for brakes to have such uneven wear, especially with SHAWD?
Usually its the front brakes that go first. My V6 TL, 6MT, Brembo was two sets of front to one set of rear. Most everything I owned followed the same pattern.
Had my first service on the TLX after nearly a year of ownership. Got the inspection report and was curious by the results on the brakes.
Front brakes are in the green at 10 mm. Rear brakes are in the yellow at 6 mm.
Is it typical for brakes to have such uneven wear, especially with SHAWD?
I forgot if you had sh-awd. Some cars though with use of the traction control will engage the rear brakes to maintain stability and that can cause them to wear faster than the front. Frankly I think I read this in the Audi forums so may not apply to Acura at all. Just mentioning it as it may be a possibility. Typically the fronts wear quicker but I know I have read some forums where the back were wearing down faster. The rear pads on a tlx are a pretty easy do it yourself change and even if you opt to change out the rotors not much more effort. Can usually be done in less time than just the round trip driving time to the dealer. Rock Auto usually has decent prices and great selection of pads/rotors.
Had my first service on the TLX after nearly a year of ownership. Got the inspection report and was curious by the results on the brakes.
Front brakes are in the green at 10 mm. Rear brakes are in the yellow at 6 mm.
Is it typical for brakes to have such uneven wear, especially with SHAWD?
Originally Posted by jhb31
I forgot if you had sh-awd. Some cars though with use of the traction control will engage the rear brakes to maintain stability and that can cause them to wear faster than the front. Frankly I think I read this in the Audi forums so may not apply to Acura at all. Just mentioning it as it may be a possibility. Typically the fronts wear quicker but I know I have read some forums where the back were wearing down faster. The rear pads on a tlx are a pretty easy do it yourself change and even if you opt to change out the rotors not much more effort. Can usually be done in less time than just the round trip driving time to the dealer. Rock Auto usually has decent prices and great selection of pads/rotors.
An independent BMW shop told me that rear brakes on BMWs wear faster than expected sometimes because the 3-series I had would use the rear brakes to reduce the amount of nose dive or otherwise keep the car more flat while braking under various conditions. Anyone know if that's the case in these cars? Just a theory, at least.
Otherwise I agree that the traction control and stability control systems also have something to do with it. There were lots of threads in BMWs forums with people discussing rear brakes wearing more quickly than the fronts because of these systems. Though does the TLX's traction/stability control and/or SH-AWD use the brakes to essentially simulate a limited slip differential? I thought SH-AWD at least transferred power more via the mechanical parts of the system rather than using the brakes (the newer version in the 2021 TLX anyway).
Could happen with BMW, Just have not seen it on my cars. Change my own brakes & drive without the nannies at full power. My TL had Brembo's & were about the easiest pad changes of any braking system.
If you are reasonably handy look to do your own change.
Tap out two pins pull the pads, replace pads tap the two pins in.
Disk change requires the caliper to be removed (two bolts) Original disk will have a screw in it going into the hub. If frozen drill it out. Its an assembly line holding device & not necessary to replace.
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Had my first service on the TLX after nearly a year of ownership. Got the inspection report and was curious by the results on the brakes.
Front brakes are in the green at 10 mm. Rear brakes are in the yellow at 6 mm.
Is it typical for brakes to have such uneven wear, especially with SHAWD?
Yes, it is normal. I've owned many Acuras. Fronts wear longer. Sh-Awd is a mechanical torque vectoring system, about the best out there. and does not rely on
applying brakes to control the AWD system, like many do. So, brake wear is NOT increased due to Sh-Awd. My fronts always wore better than rears.
And the pads tend to be softer too.
Had my first service on the TLX after nearly a year of ownership. Got the inspection report and was curious by the results on the brakes.
Front brakes are in the green at 10 mm. Rear brakes are in the yellow at 6 mm.
Is it typical for brakes to have such uneven wear, especially with SHAWD?
Did the Acura tech indicate all four rear pads or was that the worst measurement?
Reason being, the rear brakes (like the front on non-Type-S TLX) are single piston sliding calipers.
What can happen is the caliper can hang or not slide freely. This is typically caused by the caliper slide pins having too much stiction.
Those pins get greased (high temp brake grease) but even brake pad wear is not common on single piston calipers so perhaps one caliper is sticking slightly and causing greater brake pad wear.
I just replaced the rear pads on a friend's 2004 Pilot and left rear outer pad was metal on metal, inner pad ~4mm left. The caliper guide pin/bolts were bone dry.
Next time how even the pads are wearing.
FWIW, this happens on virtually any sliding caliper (single or dual piston like on the TLX 4 cylinder) which is the most common type of caliper used for consumer cars
Did the Acura tech indicate all four rear pads or was that the worst measurement?
Reason being, the rear brakes (like the front on non-Type-S TLX) are single piston sliding calipers.
What can happen is the caliper can hang or not slide freely. This is typically caused by the caliper slide pins having too much stiction.
Those pins get greased (high temp brake grease) but even brake pad wear is not common on single piston calipers so perhaps one caliper is sticking slightly and causing greater brake pad wear.
I just replaced the rear pads on a friend's 2004 Pilot and left rear outer pad was metal on metal, inner pad ~4mm left. The caliper guide pin/bolts were bone dry.
Next time how even the pads are wearing.
FWIW, this happens on virtually any sliding caliper (single or dual piston like on the TLX 4 cylinder) which is the most common type of caliper used for consumer cars
Both fronts were at 10 mm and both rears were at 6 mm.
FWIW, I use the Brake Hold feature daily and find it very convenient to take my foot off the brake at a light.
I use the dynamic cruise control and that may have been active when I was rear-ended earlier this year. Could that be the cause of additional rear brake wear?
I believe if you use the AAC often it uses the rear brakes to stop the car. Same goes for "brake hold". Might explain the increased wear to the rears?
You talking about the cruise control system? ACC. Vehicles use the engine by backing off the throttle....brakes only come in when it's really bad situation...but, also
the cruise would kick off before.
I forgot if you had sh-awd. Some cars though with use of the traction control will engage the rear brakes to maintain stability and that can cause them to wear faster than the front. Frankly I think I read this in the Audi forums so may not apply to Acura at all. Just mentioning it as it may be a possibility. Typically the fronts wear quicker but I know I have read some forums where the back were wearing down faster. The rear pads on a tlx are a pretty easy do it yourself change and even if you opt to change out the rotors not much more effort. Can usually be done in less time than just the round trip driving time to the dealer. Rock Auto usually has decent prices and great selection of pads/rotors.
Acura's Sh-Awd does NOT use braking for it's system. It uses a mechanical system to over drive or under drive as needed to direct power where needed. Best system out there.
Many use applied braking to try and do the same thing...But...it is not even close to the sophistication that Acura has built in to theirs. Approx 90% of vehicles use the braking technique.
It's a cheaper way of configuring an AWD system. Acura has been perfecting it's system over many yrs and the current one is the best so far. They are not doing it the "cheap way."
Acura's Sh-Awd does NOT use braking for it's system. It uses a mechanical system to over drive or under drive as needed to direct power where needed. Best system out there.
Many use applied braking to try and do the same thing...But...it is not even close to the sophistication that Acura has built in to theirs. Approx 90% of vehicles use the braking technique.
It's a cheaper way of configuring an AWD system. Acura has been perfecting it's system over many yrs and the current one is the best so far. They are not doing it the "cheap way."
That’s what I thought, thanks for confirming! I prefer a fully mechanical setup that doesn’t rely on braking. I feel like such setups are generally more robust and consistent.
That said, I also don’t mean to say that systems that use braking are necessarily terrible. The couple of xDrive BMWs I’ve had were amazing in the snow. I drove one of them in an actual blizzard on all season tires without any issues.
I’m looking forward to trying SH-AWD more this winter, as long as the tires that come with the TLX from the factory are at least decent in the snow anyway.
You talking about the cruise control system? ACC. Vehicles use the engine by backing off the throttle....brakes only come in when it's really bad situation...but, also
the cruise would kick off before.
Yes ACC not AAC
It doesn't feel like engine braking when it suddenly slows/stops in my car. There's no way engine braking is stopping the car all the way to zero. It is most definitely applying the brakes at least some of the time. The "cruise would kick off before"??? No the TLX has ACC with low speed follow. It literally stops the car when traffic in front stops, it sounds like you've not used it before. The ACC doesn't just turn off because a "bad situation" arises.
I would imagine they have since changed the design so this may be irrelevant but just in case: the rear brakes on my TSX were wearing out faster than the front which is odd with it being a fwd vehicle and much sooner than I would have expected I needed to have them replaced, but due to a class action settlement Honda eventually paid for half of the work. So maybe they changed the design but it's still having similar issues?
You talking about the cruise control system? ACC. Vehicles use the engine by backing off the throttle....brakes only come in when it's really bad situation...but, also
the cruise would kick off before.
There are two modes for ACC, high speed (IIRC >35MPH) and low speed (IIRC <25MPH). Low speed mode uses the brakes to slow down the vehicle in Honda/Acura cars, it's very useful in stop/go traffic but it uses the brakes.
Originally Posted by norsairius
That’s what I thought, thanks for confirming! I prefer a fully mechanical setup that doesn’t rely on braking. I feel like such setups are generally more robust and consistent.
That said, I also don’t mean to say that systems that use braking are necessarily terrible. The couple of xDrive BMWs I’ve had were amazing in the snow. I drove one of them in an actual blizzard on all season tires without any issues.
I’m looking forward to trying SH-AWD more this winter, as long as the tires that come with the TLX from the factory are at least decent in the snow anyway.
IDK, but brakes are most probably still used to control wheel slip in the TLX as there are no limited slip differentials. A brake would control the slip wheel(s) in very slippery conditions (ice/snow/...) as it's part of the overall vehicle dynamic control (ABS, SBS, TCS)
IDK, but brakes are most probably still used to control wheel slip in the TLX as there are no limited slip differentials. A brake would control the slip wheel(s) in very slippery conditions (ice/snow/...) as it's part of the overall vehicle dynamic control (ABS, SBS, TCS)
You're right - Makes sense that other systems like traction control or stability control would use the brakes. I like that SH-AWD seems to be built such that it doesn't use the brakes to shift power around compared to how other systems might though, at least based on my understanding of how it works.
I really enjoy how transparently SH-AWD works in shifting power. The power shift much smoother compared to other systems I've driven and I'm not sure how to really articulate this, but it's like the car is doing it so quickly and smoothly it's like it's instinctual. Other systems feel noticeably more reactive and "rougher" if that makes sense. Powering out of corners is pretty addicting and I wish I could watch that dash display showing the power distribution more easily while cornering .
I'm really interested to see how the car feels in much more slippery conditions this winter and how it compares to other AWD vehicles/systems I've driven. I've otherwise driven the TLX in the rain plenty and it was as good as I could have expected or asked it to be.
find a great deal after looking for months and bought instead of lease
Originally Posted by ELIN
Congrats!
Did you pay MSRP? MSRP+?
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I managed to find a great deal states away from me and had to have the car delivered! I got an outstanding deal! $37,500 for a 21 tech package with SH AWD. It was a used car with only 2350 miles on it. I bought it instead of lease....
I managed to find a great deal states away from me and had to have the car delivered! I got an outstanding deal! $37,500 for a 21 tech package with SH AWD. It was a used car with only 2350 miles on it. I bought it instead of lease....
Congrats! There are a lot of used ones popping up around me now and many are cheaper than the 1G which boggles my mind...this market is wild.
woah does that suggest people prefer the 1G over 2G or something else I wonder
I can't figure it out. I thought at first it may be the options, as in some cases I have seen a 1G Advance vs a 2G Tech so that kind of/sort of makes sense depending on how you look at it. But I have also seen some identical trim match ups and the 2G was actually cheaper or if not very close in price.