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Old 05-08-2008, 04:14 PM
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There should be a way to lock the thread until actual pics of the car come out...until then.....

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There should be a way to lock the thread until actual pics of the car come out...until then.....

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Funny, I thought this was supposed to be a DISCUSSION forum. You wouldn't know it from all the lockdown demands around here.
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If I see that photochop TSX one more time I'm going to .

When was the last time there was any useful information in this thread??
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King of Pain...*laughing* Funny how people posts things over and over isn't it! You should have seen how many times I saw pics of an 2005 Accord as the 2009 TSX!! I was just as frustrated as you, some people don't think before posting. There will be 3 trim with the TL, 2 of which will be SH-AWD...
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Bad News

I think if the New TSX is better looking than the 09 TL then it is bad news, i was holding my breath for 09 TL, but have decided to go with 2005 BMW 745 i, 33K miles for $34K, is that a good buy, any thoughts?.



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prashants17.....I have actually seen it. In my opinion, from the pics, i wouldn't say its nicer than the A4(6). As far as BMW, I find their design a bit bland and feel you need to spend too much to get the luxury feel (leatherette seats sucks). I was debating to hold off on the TSX to see the TL because I like the design of the current TL over the TSX but after seeing the pics, I went with the TSX afterall.
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Originally Posted by prashants17
I think if the New TSX is better looking than the 09 TL then it is bad news, i was holding my breath for 09 TL, but have decided to go with 2005 BMW 745 i, 33K miles for $34K, is that a good buy, any thoughts?.
Did you seriously just ask if a bmw you found is a good buy in the "2009 Acura tl/cl thread?"
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Originally Posted by prashants17
I think if the New TSX is better looking than the 09 TL ....
How in the WORLD can you know that? There are NO pictures of an '09 TL yet.





Originally Posted by prashants17
.... have decided to go with 2005 BMW 745 i, 33K miles for $34K, is that a good buy, any thoughts?.

So I guess you missed the whole "Stay on topic" thing on the last page or 2.


It's posts like this that get me in trouble. I make a smart-ass remark and then people call me names.
Old 05-10-2008, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by prashants17
I think if the New TSX is better looking than the 09 TL then it is bad news, i was holding my breath for 09 TL, but have decided to go with 2005 BMW 745 i, 33K miles for $34K, is that a good buy, any thoughts?.
OK I'll make the smart-a@@ remark.

My thoughts are that this thread is about the 09 TL and any useful information people may have about it, not about a BMW.
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c&d's render is pretty off other than the grill. looking at the closeup of the grill, it has the same style as the old tl where there are rectangular "vents" on each side leaving the middle solid for the license plate.

honestly, modify the grill and the ugliness will go away. but seriously, the grill would probably look the "best" on the tl... not saying its a pretty sight, but it'll still look decent from that stupid close up.

just my opinion, but again modify the grill and it'll look pretty good.... people will still buy it..

the rl and tsx have jdm parts to "fix" the grill as well.
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Am I just being a wistful thinker when I ask if there is a possibility of there being a CL based on the 4g TL?
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There has been a lot of speculation and/or hope for TL-based coupe ever since they killed the CL.

There is a nice Photoshop of what a 3G coupe might have looked like on page 1 of this thread.

IMO, there is a slightly better chance in the 4th Gen just because of the 335i Coupe and the G35/37 coupe.

Somewhere there was also speculation of an Acura based on the S2000.

IF (BIG, BIG IF) it happens, I'd expect a launch a year or two into the model; maybe the same time as a Type-S launch.
Old 05-10-2008, 08:06 PM
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hmmm type-s sedan or a base coupe. that would be a hard choice lol. I'd guess around 2011 a coupe would come out
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
There has been a lot of speculation and/or hope for TL-based coupe ever since they killed the CL.

There is a nice Photoshop of what a 3G coupe might have looked like on page 1 of this thread.

IMO, there is a slightly better chance in the 4th Gen just because of the 335i Coupe and the G35/37 coupe.

Somewhere there was also speculation of an Acura based on the S2000.

IF (BIG, BIG IF) it happens, I'd expect a launch a year or two into the model; maybe the same time as a Type-S launch.
Yeah, I've seen that Photoshop. Nice, but looks kinda weird.

There haven't been any coupes tested though. At least, not one that was presumed to be a TL coupe/CL.
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Originally Posted by mista.huynh
hmmm type-s sedan or a base coupe. that would be a hard choice lol. I'd guess around 2011 a coupe would come out
My guess would be 2012, to correspond with the release of the Type-S, maybe?

Let's hope.
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from what i've read... the cl is based on the 4th gen tl... just like the 2nd gen cl/tl
Old 05-10-2008, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TL1999
man with comptech closing at this moment, i think i am get another ride........
What! Are you saying Comptech is going out of business?
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I went to the Acura service center and had to go on a test drive to see what's wrong with my car.

During the test drive I asked if the service guy knew anything about the TL and oh man.. he blurted out the most disturbing things
- tl convertible
- tl coupe
- v8
- turbo
- awd

I took everything with a grain of salt. The only thing likely is the awd option.. can we get a sneak peak at it already.. geez.. they are keeping their mouth shut tight on the looks of the TL. My bet is that it'll have that ugly grill though. I really wish they make it look like the MDX grill..
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Originally Posted by scottsan
I went to the Acura service center and had to go on a test drive to see what's wrong with my car.

During the test drive I asked if the service guy knew anything about the TL and oh man.. he blurted out the most disturbing things
- tl convertible
- tl coupe
- v8
- turbo
- awd

I took everything with a grain of salt. The only thing likely is the awd option.. can we get a sneak peak at it already.. geez.. they are keeping their mouth shut tight on the looks of the TL. My bet is that it'll have that ugly grill though. I really wish they make it look like the MDX grill..
wait...how is that disturbing? Although it most definetely won't happen, it would be fun having a V8 TL, or one with a turbo, convertible, or a 4g-based CL.
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I figure it's disturbing because the Tech is so clueless about the cars his company makes/is planning on making.
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Ventitlated seats?

Can one of the dealers who have seen the 09 TL confirm or deny whether the 09 TL will have ventilated seats as part of one of the package levels? I'm hoping so - the ES350 does.
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bigred123...it will have ventilated seats....
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bigred123...no more gated shifter either....very similar to the 09 tsx....
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Originally Posted by 09TSX
bigred123...it will have ventilated seats....
does this mean i won't have to smell my own farts anymore?
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09TSX where are you getting this info from? Do you work for Acura?
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Will the new auto have 5 or 6 speeds?
Is the TL in Car And Driver (once and for all) the real TL?
Will there still be a manual transmission?
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Okay if it has ventilated seats, why would any one buy a RL now. The TL is gonna be bigger, same engine, same features(maybe even more).
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Okay if it has ventilated seats, why would any one buy a RL now. The TL is gonna be bigger, same engine, same features(maybe even more).
RL will get bigger as well, right? I mean the RL IS the largest car in the Acura fleet and it is simply no match AT ALL to it's competitors (Lexus, Mercedes and BMW all have TRUE "full sized" cars in the LS460's, S-Class and 7-series). I have always wondered why Acura neglected that market segment...
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ok, so my step dad said that he saw a TL commercial today. he said it had a dude using a computer and adding all the features he wanted to the car, and then at the end you saw the back of the car with the dude driving away in it. he said it was "for sure" a TL commercial, and he said the only time he saw the car was at the very end, and it was really quick.


now i dont want to flame him, but i am pretty sure he either saw a TSX commercial or a 3G TL commercial. my internet is running really slow tonight so i am having trouble searching youtube or the web in general. can anyone confirm my thoughts ,and or, has anyone seen this commercial recently? i want to say i have, but i cant be sure.
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Originally Posted by Fyre Man
wait...how is that disturbing? Although it most definetely won't happen, it would be fun having a V8 TL, or one with a turbo, convertible, or a 4g-based CL.
V8 TL would be cool for sure. But i can't see Acura deciding to randomly take on the M3, C63, ISF and RS4 at the drop of a hat like that. As cool as it would be, i just can't see it.

Although it would be cool for a TL coupe, TL sedan and then to have the Type S variant of each and then the Type R variant of each with the V8...it could go directly with M3 in that sense as it'd be sedan and coupe.

TL - 280
TL SHAWD - 305
TL Type S - 340
TL Type R - 410


There's a 99.999% chance it won't happen, but we can dream!
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Originally Posted by ndabunka
RL will get bigger as well, right? I mean the RL IS the largest car in the Acura fleet and it is simply no match AT ALL to it's competitors (Lexus, Mercedes and BMW all have TRUE "full sized" cars in the LS460's, S-Class and 7-series). I have always wondered why Acura neglected that market segment...
Actually, to it's competitors, the RL only lost to the M35x and M45. That's because the RL's competitors SHOULD have been the TRUE full sized cars, but it's actually a class lower...As you said. Acura has no car in the segment. It looks like the TL will either take over the RL spot and the RL will go to a higher segment, or they'll slot the car in between TL and RL.



Edit: If a mod can merge this with my post above, that'd be helpful, i took too long to edit.
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Originally Posted by ndabunka
RL will get bigger as well, right? I mean the RL IS the largest car in the Acura fleet and it is simply no match AT ALL to it's competitors (Lexus, Mercedes and BMW all have TRUE "full sized" cars in the LS460's, S-Class and 7-series). I have always wondered why Acura neglected that market segment...
If the accord got larger, the TL will as well, now this is how acura will compete:
TL - 5 series, Infiniti G, Audi A6 and the like

The TSX can't even compete with others as it has a 4cyl motor and doesn't rank at all with the competetors, but in size it will.

For the RL, if it is still around, you can count on being bigger, maybe to the size of a 750i, but defenatly not to the size of the elongated ones.
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Originally Posted by Brown Chaos
V8 TL would be cool for sure. But i can't see Acura deciding to randomly take on the M3, C63, ISF and RS4 at the drop of a hat like that. As cool as it would be, i just can't see it.

Although it would be cool for a TL coupe, TL sedan and then to have the Type S variant of each and then the Type R variant of each with the V8...it could go directly with M3 in that sense as it'd be sedan and coupe.

TL - 280
TL SHAWD - 305
TL Type S - 340
TL Type R - 410


There's a 99.999% chance it won't happen, but we can dream!
Never say never. Lexus just randomly through the IS-F at us. I actually see acura making an evo/sti competitor out of the TSX before they'd take on the M3/RS4
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no concretes, only gossip, this tread makes me crazy...
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Originally Posted by 09TSX
bigred123...no more gated shifter either....very similar to the 09 tsx....

If you know that much detail, do you happen to know if a 6mt will available with sh-awd?
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Every rumor in this thread = BS until proven otherwise.
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Talked to the CEO for acura...09 TL is AWD 501 hp. 2010 TL Type-S is Twin Turbo AWD 704 hp.
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Originally Posted by VtecTL
Talked to the CEO for acura...09 TL is AWD 501 hp. 2010 TL Type-S is Twin Turbo AWD 704 hp.

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^+1 Easily the funniest info we have gotten from any "insider" lol
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Originally Posted by VtecTL
Talked to the CEO for acura...09 TL is AWD 501 hp. 2010 TL Type-S is Twin Turbo AWD 704 hp.


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