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Old Jul 24, 2013 | 10:50 PM
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Door Ajar (searched and still no fix)

Ive had this problem since i bought the car a few weeks ago soon as i make a sharp left turn or somebody leans on the passenger front door the sensor says its open and i hear that annoying chime. Two weeks ago i removed the door striker (metal part attached to the body of the car) and flipped it upside down and this fixed it for the past two weeks but now its back and it has gotten the best of me because it is driving me NUTS. Its so annoying that im willing to pay big bucks to get it fixed so it never happens again. Anything else i can do to try to fix this door?
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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 01:11 AM
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Instead of flipping "that thing" in the door jam just short wires that attached to it and see if it will cure your problem, if it does than you'll know what needs to be replaced.
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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 01:55 AM
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big bucks huh? :P
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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by paperboy42190
big bucks huh? :P
Yea im actually serious about that, thats how annoying this issue is.
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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 09:48 AM
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The switch in question actually lights your door ajar when it is closed (shorted) and doesn't set it off when it is open.

I had the rear door panels off my car for a while and disconnected the switches to prevent the ajar light from coming on all of the time.

Take a look at your door panel, some photos attached that show where the switch is (inside the rubber piece) and the screw with the rubber piece around it in the door panel that opens the switch when the door is closed.

Are they all in place like in the pics?

Is your door panel maybe slightly misaligned?

Does the door close all of the way?

Check the striker, is it loose?

Maybe the door moves a little when someone pushes on it and the latch isn't catching right anymore. Is it loose, if you push on the passenger door from inside with the door closed does it wiggle a little?

If the door is moving a quick temporary fix would be to put something soft on top of the rubber piece around the screw so it has a little more range to push the switch.

Alternatively you could pull the rubber weather seal out around the switch, disconnect the wires and replace the switch/seal until you can figure out what is wrong and fix it.

If it's the latch you have to remove the door panel, glass and cables to replace the latch.

http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/...All&vinsrch=no

Check #34 & #35 to make sure they're tight.

Oh, if that rubber piece around the screw in the door panel is missing that should be your problem right there.

You can easily test the switch too, open the passenger door and just push the button on the switch in the door jamb, your passenger door ajar indicator should go out. Release and it should turn on. Sounds to me like it's working though.
Attached Thumbnails Door Ajar (searched and still no fix)-img_20130725_041927.jpg   Door Ajar (searched and still no fix)-img_20130725_042000.jpg  

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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 09:21 PM
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The striker is tight because i have adjusted it myself. While im driving if i push the passenger door outwards while its closed the door ajar comes on right away also when i make sharp left turns so clearly the door isnt closing enough. By the way my car has never been crashed and the body is all original. And yes ive pressed the switch and it works perfectly fine.

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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 10:51 PM
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Are the screws in the door for the latch tight (not the striker)?

You could see if the latch in the door is moving back and forth as an assembly, maybe just the screws are loose.

Can you move the striker side to side by hand when the screws are tightened?

Is that rubber piece there around the screw in the door panel? Maybe it's off or something, I've had to replace one before as the plastic clip that it screws into broke.
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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 11:29 PM
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I will check all these things tomorrow afternoon and report back to you please check back in because i really want to fix this and you are giving me some very usefull help which is highly appreciated.
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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mzilvar
Are the screws in the door for the latch tight (not the striker)?

You could see if the latch in the door is moving back and forth as an assembly, maybe just the screws are loose.

Can you move the striker side to side by hand when the screws are tightened?

Is that rubber piece there around the screw in the door panel? Maybe it's off or something, I've had to replace one before as the plastic clip that it screws into broke.
Well i just checked it out and the screw with the rubber piece around it was a little loose so i tightened the screw all the way and that fixed it, or so i think because then again the problem is intermittent so sometimes the door is fine and others its going off the whole day so hopefully that fixed it. The latch also seemed tight from pulling on it a bit.
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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gil'sUA5
Well i just checked it out and the screw with the rubber piece around it was a little loose so i tightened the screw all the way and that fixed it, or so i think because then again the problem is intermittent so sometimes the door is fine and others its going off the whole day so hopefully that fixed it. The latch also seemed tight from pulling on it a bit.
Hopefully thats it, easy fix if it is.
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 01:17 AM
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I had the exact same problem and there are two fixes

-Replace the door sensor ( the black spring that gets pushed in when you close the door

- OR moisten the tip of the sensor and close the door, now open the door and look for the wet spot on the door. Grab a double sided tape and install a small piece, u might have to install a few on top of each other. Voila, its a ghetto fix but its been almost 2-3 weeks, no problemo
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mohsinkhan35
I had the exact same problem and there are two fixes

-Replace the door sensor ( the black spring that gets pushed in when you close the door

- OR moisten the tip of the sensor and close the door, now open the door and look for the wet spot on the door. Grab a double sided tape and install a small piece, u might have to install a few on top of each other. Voila, its a ghetto fix but its been almost 2-3 weeks, no problemo
If you press the door sensor in with your finger and the door reads that its now closed then the sensor doesnt need replacing, replacing a normally functioning sensor is a waste of time and money.
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 06:24 PM
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The problem is back just a few days after i fixed it and ive noticed that it only comes back when its raining.
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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Well not that it ONLY comes back when its raining but its MUCH worse, the door ajar stays on almost the whole time while im driving when it rains. This is driving me NUTS.
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 07:14 PM
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Anything wet in the door jamb? Maybe some water is leaking past the weather seal and shorting that switch.

The light comes on when the switch is shorted (closed) so water somewhere shorting it could cause the problem.

Could swap the switch between sides and see if the problem follows since they're all the same. Just one screw holding it in, pretty easy to remove.

http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/...All&vinsrch=no

Number 13 in that diagram.

Could see if the contacts are wet as well while you're in there if you decide to try swapping the switch with a different door.

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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 09:51 PM
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Going to try that this week since it'll be raining a lot. As a last resort, would there be any way to completely get rid of the switch so the computer doesnt realize when the door is open or not?
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 10:00 PM
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If you remove the switch, disconnect the wires, stuff the connector/wires back inside the door then just replace the switch.

If the wires are disconnected from the switch that ajar indicator will never go off, even when the door is open.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gil'sUA5
If you press the door sensor in with your finger and the door reads that its now closed then the sensor doesnt need replacing, replacing a normally functioning sensor is a waste of time and money.
With all due respect, stop spreading the wrong idea. It is not waste of time and money. Learn how the switch works. With the time spring that gets pushed in loses its resistance. So when I said you can install a double sided tape and it fixes the problem, trust me it does and you may ask how? because it helps push the spring so that the switch engages. Or what you can do to test it out is, grab passengers side switch and install it in drivers side, see if that fixes your problem. I know its annoying as f**k.

Your call mate, do as you please.

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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 06:40 AM
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Also wanted to add that my car used to go nuts on hot days.

Here is the original thread I posted
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-problems-fixes-114/door-sensor-problems-890293/

And another user suggested fix
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-problems-fixes-114/doors-randomly-unlock-leaning-door-765600/

Cheers!
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mohsinkhan35
Also wanted to add that my car used to go nuts on hot days.

Here is the original thread I posted
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=890293

And another user suggested fix
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=765600

Cheers!
I appreciate your help, I went at it again today and first I cleaned the sensor off because it was dirty and then I realized the grommet on the bottom of the door that makes contact with the sensor is actually adjustable so i unscrewed it a bit which made it longer so it now sits deeper into the sensor when the door is closed. I pushed the door outward from the inside and the door ajar didnt come on, again everytime i do something that seems to fix it it comes back but hopefully this did it. This is the part I adjusted...

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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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I do hope it fixed your problem, looking forward to the results. if it works, imma do the same
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Old Aug 1, 2013 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mohsinkhan35
I do hope it fixed your problem, looking forward to the results. if it works, imma do the same
Today here in Jersey it finally rained and the door ajar did NOT come back on so i fixed it with the steps i described in my last post, i am EXTREMELY happy that i no longer have to worry about this and hopefully it stays that way.
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Old Aug 2, 2013 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Gil'sUA5
Today here in Jersey it finally rained and the door ajar did NOT come back on so i fixed it with the steps i described in my last post, i am EXTREMELY happy that i no longer have to worry about this and hopefully it stays that way.
Sweet!
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Old Aug 3, 2013 | 09:59 PM
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Welp, i spoke too soon it rained yesterday and its been back since then but ive narrowed it down to the sensor just not being pushed in enough by the door when the door is closed because from the inside when i pull the door towards me its fine but as soon as i push it out a bit while its closed the chime comes on. So im wondering if the sensor just might be bad or if i should put something on it that'll make it go further in when i close the door?
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Old Aug 3, 2013 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gil'sUA5
Welp, i spoke too soon it rained yesterday and its been back since then but ive narrowed it down to the sensor just not being pushed in enough by the door when the door is closed because from the inside when i pull the door towards me its fine but as soon as i push it out a bit while its closed the chime comes on. So im wondering if the sensor just might be bad or if i should put something on it that'll make it go further in when i close the door?
Hmm, in my very first post i wrote a little procedure. Wet the tip of sensor and close the door. open the door and look for the spot where the sensor touches the door, install a thick felt tab, or double sided tape.

On another, door sensor related, thread i read that the sensor is like $5 and takes few minutes to replace?
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Old Aug 4, 2013 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mohsinkhan35
Hmm, in my very first post i wrote a little procedure. Wet the tip of sensor and close the door. open the door and look for the spot where the sensor touches the door, install a thick felt tab, or double sided tape.

On another, door sensor related, thread i read that the sensor is like $5 and takes few minutes to replace?
Yea the sensor just screws off and disconnects extremely easy. I know how to fix the sensor by just unscrewing it a bit and putting something behind it then tightening it up again so it sits further out and gets pushed further in when the door is closed. My problem wih that is i dont feel i should have to do something "ghetto" like that for it to work normally and i dont like doing things like that on my car so off to the dealer i go to buy the sensor. I'll check back in in a week or so.
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Old Aug 5, 2013 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Gil'sUA5
I appreciate your help, I went at it again today and first I cleaned the sensor off because it was dirty and then I realized the grommet on the bottom of the door that makes contact with the sensor is actually adjustable so i unscrewed it a bit which made it longer so it now sits deeper into the sensor when the door is closed. I pushed the door outward from the inside and the door ajar didnt come on, again everytime i do something that seems to fix it it comes back but hopefully this did it. This is the part I adjusted...


Just fyi I'm pretty sure you adjusted it the wrong way.

For reference the one you photo'd hits the metal frame, not the door sensor. If you unscrewed it a little it should hold the door open, away from the sensor, more than it previously did. Screwing it in would make the door close more.

Here's a pic for reference, showing which hits the frame and which hits the sensor.
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Old Aug 5, 2013 | 02:57 AM
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Just fyi I'm pretty sure you adjusted it the wrong way.

For reference the one you photo'd hits the metal frame, not the door sensor. If you unscrewed it a little it should hold the door open, away from the sensor, more than it previously did. Screwing it in would make the door close more.

Here's a pic for reference, showing which hits the frame and which hits the sensor.
Yup you're right i noticed that a couple days after so unscrewing that part only made it worse so now i screwed it all the way in. Btw the other rubber piece with the screw in the picture doesnt make contact with the sensor at all it lands a bit higher than the sensor when i close the door so the only thing that actually touches the door sensor when the door is closed is the door panel itsself.
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Old Aug 5, 2013 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Gil'sUA5
Yup you're right i noticed that a couple days after so unscrewing that part only made it worse so now i screwed it all the way in. Btw the other rubber piece with the screw in the picture doesnt make contact with the sensor at all it lands a bit higher than the sensor when i close the door so the only thing that actually touches the door sensor when the door is closed is the door panel itsself.
haha you're right, all this time I thought that was what hit it

I just checked mine with a small dab of grease, it hits the panel as well.

Looks like the other rubber grommet w/ screw hits the film thats right above the switch.

Here that should be about right .. haha

I guess that just leaves the switch, unless something is holding the door open too far.
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Old Aug 5, 2013 | 03:57 AM
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haha you're right, all this time I thought that was what hit it

I just checked mine with a small dab of grease, it hits the panel as well.

Looks like the other rubber grommet w/ screw hits the film thats right above the switch.

Here that should be about right .. haha

I guess that just leaves the switch, unless something is holding the door open too far.
Yea the switch is next on my list and ive done all the tests and adjusted everything so theres nothing holding it out too far. If the switch doesnt work like i said im just going to put something behind it so it sits further out even though i wanted to avoid that.
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