Sonnick

I'd assume the 'Yute Log,' all day kind of wood.

pass427

this ill say is more than talk ,Vato allowed us to prove power isnt an issue neither is Tuning where we are at now is what will be next weak link ,Vato car made 560whp pump gas on relatively low boost and 500lb tq ,motor recieved pistons ,rods ,valvetrain ,ecu ,turbo kit ,twin disc tilton clutch kit and with that said just to think we didnt even get a chance to put full 3" inch exhaust on ,or even a race gas tune ..
On next hand when Tuning these cars upwards to these high horse power close attention and a good tuner with a keen ears for motors is important ..

DecaFe1

someone sponsor me this turbo :P

flexer

What turbo was on the car when it made those numbers? The GT35R? GTX35R? a 6262?

JR

Skier4lyfe303

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Do you know the part number for this? Ill be running E85 also.

bmeyer

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No clue what it is off the top of my head. If you just google "GM flex fuel sensor" it'll be one of the first hits. You'll also see a link regarding flex fuel with the MegaSquirt.

Skier4lyfe303

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just thought id ask to compare, but it looks like it is GM part number:
12570260. There are some on eBay for $330 shipped item number 150677688768

libert69

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2 more weeks then a 1300 mile road trip

swoosh

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am thinking of getting my ass to meet Rodney as well....~1800 miles for me....

Inaccurate

Thanks for the update Bert. I have been wondering what your status was.

Best of luck to you buddy

Godspeed !

KN_TL

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Sweet! I've been thinking about a vacation down there too. It's about 1600 miles for me.

Majofo

:theghey:

I was expecting a j turn (reverse 180) peel out.

I hate cars

I hate to say it but it would be nice to see what it would do at the track instead of FWD burnouts and lots of noise or videos of the speedo. The car in the video could be a 13 second car or an 11 second car, you just can't tell.

Good luck Bert. I hope everything goes well on your trip.

Majofo

13 second and 11 second are both good in my book.

Inaccurate

In my opinion, the drag strip is Not a good measure of a street car's performance.

Drag racing is all about the start (aka, "from a dig" and "coming out of the hole"). It is extremely common to see a true 11.0 second car to only do 13's because the car could not get traction. Once it hooked-up, it pulled like a true 11.0 sec car. But too late, the damage has been done to the ET already.

Now apply this to real world racing. How often does a stoplight race happen requiring you to nail it from the green light? In my experience, practically never. All of my races commence from around 20-30 mph at the earliest. It takes this long to entice the opponent or for both parties to realize that the "game is on".

I hate cars

Well over half of my random races were from a dead stop. A 20-80mph roll takes a little over 2 seconds so I want to at least get the fun of trying to launch it. Plus it's harder to figure out what it's going to do from a roll than from a stop.

The 1/4 shows the mph which indicates the power so even if the car runs 14.0 but traps 130mph you know it has high 10 second power if it could hook.

Nothing measures real world performance better than a 1/4 run. The car must hook on the street, if it doesn't, it loses, just like at the track. It's already hard enough to run a 600rwhp, 3,000lb car on the street somewhat safely, I'm not about to start doing 100mph roll ons just to satisfy traction requirements or a traction disadvantage of the other car. If it doesn't hook make it hook, that a huge part of racing. You don't change to race to suit your car's shortcomings.

I mean, what else are we supposed to do, post videos of the car doing burnouts or racing through a couple gears toward a camera which gives no perception of speed? Sure, it sounds neat but we have no idea how quick it is.

Inaccurate

It is good having you back IHC. I missed you buddy.

I suppose my comments were more geared toward 12.5-13's sec type of cars. Yours is a 9 sec monster trying to run on the street. All I know is that if I nailed it from the start, I would never have any races because they would never attempt to run me down.

BTW.....

"post videos of the car doing burnouts or racing through a couple gears" YES PLEASE

Hi speed

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I don't see the point of being part of a race where I am at the type a disadvantage a drag race poses for a hi HP FWD car. Just like you don't bring a drag car to the twisties to race canyon carvers. I am happy to race from a stop but just because I have 100+ HP on most fast cars I encounter which allows me to run them down hard and show the real potential the car has. This would be a different story if the cars were evenly matched WHP wise. I completely agree with inaccurate that most races I am in are started at around 20 MPH instead of revving at a light.

Majofo

Whose TL is this?.. apparently it ran 13.7.. no other info.

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swoosh

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username on youtube says StreetKA....i know we have that user on Azine as well....his car ? maybe he can find out whose car ?

Majofo

Steet's a member but that's not his ride..

I hate cars

There are plenty cars with the same and more power. Why would you only want one part of the performance envelope? The first time you run into a RWD car that hooks you're going to need a lot more than 100 more hp to run it down by 100mph.

But this was not my argument, others turned it into this. My argument is why not measure the car's actual performance instead of theories and calculations? Why worry about the car's potential performance when you can see it's actual performance. The drag strip tells the truth, no excuses, and theories are just that. It's either quick or it's not. It hurts a lot of feelings and egos so most won't take their car out there. My first run with my "10 second" combo barely went 12s. It's an eye opener. I see tons of people who have never been to the drag strip that are ok with an estimated time or what it should run. I could never be happy with that. So again, why not run it, don't look at the ET, just look at the mph. MPH is unaffected by traction.

I should just put what my car should run in my sig since we're doing it this way. 602rwhp, 3,000lbs= 9.9@137 according to the calculator. Now how bad would it look if I posted potential performance?

KN_TL

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I'm pretty sure this is libert69.

Majofo

Bert went to the track and kept us in the dark?

KN_TL

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He definitely went. It's probably in this thread somewhere.

I hate cars

I think Bert might have been having torque converter issues. Not sure if he ever got to the bottom of it.

I hate cars

Last post about this.... I WANT to see a TL turn in mid 120mph traps. IMO, this would validate that it can run with the 7.0 Z06, kill an M5, and 99% of the other cars out there. While I don't race my TL, I always like to see them win, we're all on the same side here. It just gets frustrating not knowing what the they run. At this point, even some video racing another car would be nice. I understand, not everyone carries a camera around, I never had a camera when I used to race all the time but at some point, isn't anyone curious how the turbo TL actually compares against other cars?

Majofo

fuck yes.. lol.

libert69

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thats my car. 13.7 @ 108 with a laughable 2.7 60' this run was also when i was sitting around 350 whp.

i cant wait to destroy that time with the new motor and launch control

libert69

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just a little more time my friend and ill be back with vids, stories and some track runs

I hate cars

I know you will. Can't wait to see it. I have a feeling you're going to run a higher trap than me once it's all over with.

Majofo

libert69

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Inaccurate

The time has come

spade0698

Hey guys, just cheacking in...Rodney has my car for the next several months till I return to the states. Build 2 is underway. I'm coming for you Libert....beware..LOL

KN_TL

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Are you there? I talked to Rodney and he said he was getting ready for your arrival.

Whatcha doing?

phee

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I know that Bert must have had some converter issues on that run. My 2g ran a 13.9@104 with ~260whp so Bert should have run a way faster time.

BostonSilverTypeS

congrats Bert, keeps us posted and show us some dyno run videos is possible!!! Breaking boundaries....enjoy the Ride back to NY!

swoosh

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bert dont be shy....post it up

libert69

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real quick. long dyno day. car running good. tuned up to 450whp. dyno day #2 tmrw. a little welding, alignment and a few other things. i have vids and there will be more tmrw. stay tuned