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Old 03-20-2006 | 09:25 AM
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I'm getting resonance at 1-1.5k (1/4+ throttle) and 4k (light throttle). Same for anyone else?
i don't know what you got but i have 6mt so it rarely goes below 1.5K rpm. but when i used higher gears at lower speed i do get a lil resonance. i haven't noticed anything around 4K tho.
Old 03-20-2006 | 09:37 AM
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what the cheepest price for the S/C i think i need one but i am not putting one in before i get a some type of clutch it's a must on a 6MT
I seen the group buy for around 3900 shipped. Some people say they can get them for 3800 shipped
Old 03-20-2006 | 10:19 AM
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acura of escondido... make them an offer for 3800 on ebay..
Old 03-20-2006 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ttliang
i don't know what you got but i have 6mt so it rarely goes below 1.5K rpm. but when i used higher gears at lower speed i do get a lil resonance. i haven't noticed anything around 4K tho.
Do you have a catback installed? bklyn and againstallodds have the comptech catback. I've got a 6mt w/magnaflow.

Thinking of going with a larger resonator to tone things down a bit. Looking for something more subtle.

BTW, did a road trip through the mountains this weekend and all I have to say is this is a great mod.
Old 03-20-2006 | 09:25 PM
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Taking a trip up to Jersey tomorrow to get mine installed. Can't wait!
Old 03-21-2006 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bTwix
Do you have a catback installed? bklyn and againstallodds have the comptech catback. I've got a 6mt w/magnaflow.

Thinking of going with a larger resonator to tone things down a bit. Looking for something more subtle.

BTW, did a road trip through the mountains this weekend and all I have to say is this is a great mod.
no i'm with stock pipe. it's very smooth and quiet.
Old 03-21-2006 | 08:27 PM
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Procats Installed

Well, I just got back from my trip to Jersey today. Man, it was a long ride. It was well worth it though.
I met Nitro, Mike and his partner (didn't get his name) at E-Shift. They are down to earth people. The E-Shift crew were very professional and informative. They answered all my questions.
They have a lot of sick rides there too! I didn't have my camera or I'd taken some pics.
Anyways, I'll get straight to the point. These things are awsome! No CEL on so far.
They dynoed my 5AT @ 229.4 Hp and 201.6 Trq before install. My only mod is the AEM CAI.
After the pro-cat install, horse power was as expected @241.8hp. I was expecting a bit more, say 18 t0 20, but got only 13.5. I guess the computer is still adjusting.
The up side is the torque gains. The torque after the install was an astounding 21.8 gain @ 223.4!
I can feel the peddle is lighter now.
Overall, it was a good trip.
Old 03-21-2006 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 05TLTony
Well, I just got back from my trip to Jersey today. Man, it was a long ride. It was well worth it though.
I met Nitro, Mike and his partner (didn't get his name) at E-Shift. They are down to earth people. The E-Shift crew were very professional and informative. They answered all my questions.
They have a lot of sick rides there too! I didn't have my camera or I'd taken some pics.
Anyways, I'll get straight to the point. These things are awsome! No CEL on so far.
They dynoed my 5AT @ 229.4 Hp and 201.6 Trq before install. My only mod is the AEM CAI.
After the pro-cat install, horse power was as expected @241.8hp. I was expecting a bit more, say 18 t0 20, but got only 13.5. I guess the computer is still adjusting.
The up side is the torque gains. The torque after the install was an astounding 21.8 gain @ 223.4!
I can feel the peddle is lighter now.
Overall, it was a good trip.
doesnt sound right got a copy of the graph?
Old 03-21-2006 | 10:08 PM
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Old 03-21-2006 | 10:34 PM
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cant see the details of the HP near the top but the printed 223.5 seems more accurate to the new 242,and is on par for what the other guys got ...also if you look at your graph instead of just the number...it's obvious your torque never goes above 215 the 223.4 number it a torque spike you often get at convertor lock up at the very start of the run
Old 03-21-2006 | 10:50 PM
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Thanks TypeR.
Damn torque spike!
Old 03-21-2006 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 05TLTony
Thanks TypeR.
Damn torque spike!
Hey tony no dought the exhaust will give you more. It seems with the stock exhaust it runs very rich. but never the less glad your happy with the Pro cats as the computer adjust it will get better. You can see as i pointed out to you today how rich it runs upstairs look at your graph compared to one with exhaust.
Old 03-22-2006 | 08:03 AM
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I've heard a few ppl talk about problems with the Outlaw theroblock spacers..Is this just after they installed the Pro-Cats. I'm not sure what is goin on with that. Was it an improvement by itself, then after the Pro-Cats it was restraining. I have a number of parts on the way and the Pro-Cats is something i would like to get so should i Not install the Spacers?....Pls help me out and let me know what you guys think...

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Old 03-22-2006 | 08:13 AM
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hey man don't feel bad, i only gained 12 hp and 7lb torque and i'm supercharged !
Old 03-22-2006 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BaltimoreAce
I've heard a few ppl talk about problems with the Outlaw theroblock spacers..Is this just after they installed the Pro-Cats. I'm not sure what is goin on with that. Was it an improvement by itself, then after the Pro-Cats it was restraining. I have a number of parts on the way and the Pro-Cats is something i would like to get so should i Not install the Spacers?....Pls help me out and let me know what you guys think...

thanks
i am not sure i called mine "a problem". i just felt the low-end tq wasn't as good. againstallodds1 had some loose bolts "problems" but that could be a lot of other factors.

bottom line is that this is a very ez put-on/take-off cheap mod. if you already have it, try it to see if you like it. if you don't like it, take it off. it will keep your intake super cool i can tell you that. relax, if you follow the acura service manual's remove sequence/install sequence/tq down, it's not like it's gonna blow ur engine or whatnot.
Old 03-22-2006 | 04:07 PM
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Wasnt too worried about it. Just didnt wanna waste time and money but the spacers just came in the mail, so thats out of the question.haha. I was just wondering if other users felt the same way with the mods. thanks for the input. I wonder if there is some science behind the two mods together not working out. hmm....
Old 03-22-2006 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BaltimoreAce
I've heard a few ppl talk about problems with the Outlaw theroblock spacers..Is this just after they installed the Pro-Cats. I'm not sure what is goin on with that. Was it an improvement by itself, then after the Pro-Cats it was restraining. I have a number of parts on the way and the Pro-Cats is something i would like to get so should i Not install the Spacers?....Pls help me out and let me know what you guys think...

thanks
Got em installed on my car and they work flawlessly? I think truely...there is only one or two people that EVER talked about this not working out for them? And one of them was already explained.... Too many others that are having no problems>
Old 03-22-2006 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BaltimoreAce
Wasnt too worried about it. Just didnt wanna waste time and money but the spacers just came in the mail, so thats out of the question.haha. I was just wondering if other users felt the same way with the mods. thanks for the input. I wonder if there is some science behind the two mods together not working out. hmm....
the only possibility of these not working is if it were to interfer with teh hemholtz resonance of the intake manifold ...i cant imagine that lengthening the runners less than half-an-inch would cause appreciable high rpm loss
Old 03-22-2006 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bklynpanman
hey man don't feel bad, i only gained 12 hp and 7lb torque and i'm supercharged !
based on the same dyno same day?
Old 03-22-2006 | 11:11 PM
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well went to the track tonight and i will say wow the E-SHIFT PRO CATS are helping alot i need a clutch slipping bad and no traction and was able to still get a decent time. when i get a clutch 13's are a fact for 6mt at least the mph is killer. i believe this is the highest mph for a N/A 6mt


here is the link i am car 7026 the other was an evo as you can see he could not launch the car

http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?im...acktime9kw.jpg
Old 03-22-2006 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitrotiger
well went to the track tonight and i will say wow the E-SHIFT PRO CATS are helping alot i need a clutch slipping bad and no traction and was able to still get a decent time. when i get a clutch 13's are a fact for 6mt at least the mph is killer. i believe this is the highest mph for a N/A 6mt


here is the link i am car 7026 the other was an evo as you can see he could not launch the car

http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?im...acktime9kw.jpg
Nice Get that 60' down, and you'll def. be seeing some mid-high 13's with that mph.
Old 03-23-2006 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Nitrotiger
well went to the track tonight and i will say wow the E-SHIFT PRO CATS are helping alot i need a clutch slipping bad and no traction and was able to still get a decent time. when i get a clutch 13's are a fact for 6mt at least the mph is killer. i believe this is the highest mph for a N/A 6mt


here is the link i am car 7026 the other was an evo as you can see he could not launch the car

http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?im...acktime9kw.jpg
a CL guy got a 103 in his 6mt ...but my 106 all motor will be tough and in an auto no less
Old 03-23-2006 | 02:22 PM
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a CL guy got a 103 in his 6mt ...but my 106 all motor will be tough and in an auto no less
Tuff indeed but remember my clutch is slipping all gears and don't you have a 3.5 conversion
Old 03-23-2006 | 05:19 PM
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Hey Nitro,
I was meaning to check out your suspension setup, but I forgot and headed to 711 cause I was so damn hungry from the long ride.
Old 03-28-2006 | 10:50 AM
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so are these ehaders worth it? i wont have any problems after installation if i got an aem intake would i? sorry, but what the hell is this outlaw thing causing problems. i jsut wanna get them and get the gains im suppsoed to without worrying.
Old 03-28-2006 | 11:26 AM
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so are these ehaders worth it? i wont have any problems after installation if i got an aem intake would i? sorry, but what the hell is this outlaw thing causing problems. i jsut wanna get them and get the gains im suppsoed to without worrying.
  • no problem with aem
  • outlaw is a separate issue. see here.
  • worth it or not that's too subjective. it's a good mod with good power increase thru-out the band.
Old 03-28-2006 | 01:21 PM
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so are these ehaders worth it? i wont have any problems after installation if i got an aem intake would i? sorry, but what the hell is this outlaw thing causing problems. i jsut wanna get them and get the gains im suppsoed to without worrying.
Dude, asked and answered many times already in this forum.
Old 03-28-2006 | 02:55 PM
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so are these ehaders worth it? i wont have any problems after installation if i got an aem intake would i? sorry, but what the hell is this outlaw thing causing problems. i jsut wanna get them and get the gains im suppsoed to without worrying.
As far as I am concerned....outlaw is not an issue whatsoever? But I think Ttlaing gave you the best link you can get to that "issue"....been used too many times sucessfully and written up too many times as success stories both here and in national publications for there to be a problem. This was an issue with about 2 people here.....and really not worth rehashing at this point. As far as the Pro-Cats; yes....they are definately worth the cost. There is no denying that it increases power and torque across the board...and no...I dont think anybody has reported problems whatsoever with these cats hands down! I have an AEM installed....fact is...I recommend it! So no worries there either!
Old 03-29-2006 | 07:05 AM
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just look at my increase in mph form the Pro cats that should tell you not to mention the tq gain is awesome for everyday use.
Old 03-29-2006 | 07:57 AM
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Nitro, have you looked into chutches yet for your car? I also have a 6mt but I think I want to go ahead and do a clutch before I boost it. What have you found for our cars? will the Comptech clutch for the 6mt CL work?

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Old 03-29-2006 | 08:09 AM
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Nitro, have you looked into chutches yet for your car? I also have a 6mt but I think I want to go ahead and do a clutch before I boost it. What have you found for our cars? will the Comptech clutch for the 6mt CL work?

D.
yes i have been looking and nobody makes clutch for us yet. and comptech clutch will not work our tranny is defferent and besides comptech clutch was only a clutch and flywheel. you need the presure plate that s the main part. the stock clutch plate is fine as long as we get a stronger pressure plate
Old 03-29-2006 | 08:14 AM
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Gotcha, I have been looking all over and am glad to hear I'm not crazy. My clutch had a decent amount of slip from time to time and I'm sure it will get a lot worse under boost. Keep me posted if you find anything and I'll do the same

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Old 03-29-2006 | 08:22 AM
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Gotcha, I have been looking all over and am glad to hear I'm not crazy. My clutch had a decent amount of slip from time to time and I'm sure it will get a lot worse under boost. Keep me posted if you find anything and I'll do the same

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I will im am working with E-shift trying to figure it out. our tranny is very complex system on it
Old 03-29-2006 | 05:22 PM
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So just to confirm, everyone that installs these E-Shift ProCats should not change the sensors and would gasket will be best to use with ProCats? A whole lot of reading, just need to reconfirm, thanks
Old 03-29-2006 | 05:32 PM
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Put my order in today!!! Sweet. Have a plan for the cat back. Hope for the right sound the 2nd time.
Old 03-30-2006 | 05:48 AM
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When are these procats going on sale?? Can we do a groupbuy to bring the price down?
Old 03-30-2006 | 06:30 AM
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I believe the group buy was for the 1st time out only it's worth every penny
Old 03-30-2006 | 03:30 PM
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^ I second that! It also sounds pretty nasty when you stomp on the gas! My friend had his stock next to mine and when I stomped it, he gave me a thumbs up and said it sounded pretty good!
Old 03-30-2006 | 04:39 PM
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When are these procats going on sale?? Can we do a groupbuy to bring the price down?
I think the only real time you could have realized a savings on these is if you got on the boat BEFORE it was proven technology over and over again! That wouldnt make sense would it>penalize the guys who got in up front based on theory and then give it out at a sale price later on to the rest of the people who didnt invest and waited? That wait ALWAYS costs you more money man....the puddin' is in - and the proof is in it now!
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ok.. well when its time for them to go on sale. PM me. No reason for E-Shift to not make a couple extra bucks again with a true savings group buy.

I'll be waiting...


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