WRXtranceformed

This is one of the best summary posts I've seen so far. I've followed this thread off and on. And while I think that a good supercharger setup would be really cool and unique on a Type-S, the fact that the aftermarket support is just not there to do it reliably and to make it worth the investment is what would steer the majority of people away from it.

If the tuning does, in fact, get sorted out, meth or no meth the next steps would be to beef up the engine internals and really push the block for all it's worth. Otherwise, if I personally was going to dump money into power mods for this car I would feel a heck of a lot more comfortable doing proven & safe NA mods to get comfortably near those power levels.

ssmtl2nv

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you think they will level out the lean situtation during vtech, or maybe a set of rsx type s injectors???

NBPacuraTL

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i thought installing pre-cat deletes will make it more lean, not less?

Kennedy

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That's correct. Lean is when your A/F is to high, as in you have too much air per the volume of fuel applied. Lean is bad.

Mods which unrestrict the intake/exhaust allow more air to consumed, thus usually leaning out the A/F ratio, but not usually enough to hurt anything.

4 lbs of compressed air is enough to hurt something if more fuel isn't added, hence tuning to add fuel, retard timing etc...

Excelerate

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I've read a number of your denigrating posts to members including Kennedy, who actually is a very informative poster, and honestly if I were a customer or member on this forum I would never do business with you. You may have worked something out with CT's ACM and that is great but you are a very poor businessman. You might want to reconsider some of your posts and actions because you're isolating yourself on this forum.

The way that most members on here are installing the water meth may not lead to substantial gains. In these cases adding the water meth is a security blanket since it effectively acts like an octane booster (something to the tune of 108 octane) so you can try and stave off detonation. But if you tune for water meth you can advance timing and see gains of 10-20%.

stillhere153

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this forums all about helping members and I haven't read anything by the aforementioned member doing any sort of help

greco9885

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^he wants us to buy a s/c and have him install and tune it for us. its a secret

Kennedy

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Thanks Josh...
As Elegant type S said... I come of as a cocky prick, well unfortunatly because I am, but I wasn't born last night, and I do know a little bit about what I post on. If I don't know something, I keep my mouth shut and try to learn... but 99% of the time, and especially here, my posts are more oriented toward dry humor and screwing with forum veterans. Why folks like to get all riled up on the internet is such a trip. All i can think of is "don't wrestle with a pig adage...".

To your point regarding meth... Agree 100%, it's the trivial task of advancing the timing to get that gain that seems to be the impossible task.
I know little of how to accomplish this with no ECU tuning options, but has anyone ever considered a mechanical timing advance as a way to try to boost a meth's SC output? Is that even possible on the J series engines?

subsonicman

First off, I don't sell Superchargers on line, and I don't sell anything on this forum.

As for the secret, I have said over and over again that we upped, the injector pulse length. we also modified some brackets to fit, and made a supercharger fit. the are pictures in S_Hengs photo bucket. I asked many forum members for help, and I know of some vendors that wanted nothing to do with this project. It was a very easy install, more research, and legwork then actual work.

And Yes I am a poor businessman. I only work on cars because I love it. I love the industry, and Hobby, and the sport of it all, I love the originality of it all. I want to do nothing more then make awesome cars. Using of course my trusty Dremel tool, and some Tin Snips.

And as for the Meth, I too agree with Kenny. which is rare.

as for drive ability, Its only 4 pounds! 4 pounds is not going to end the world as we know it.

subsonicman

When you add up the $ for a fully modded Car, you will spend more then 5k, this car as an Exhaust, and that's it. it has a cold air intake now, but that sort of already came with the kit form CT< so, personally, I feel it is like compairing Apples to Oranges (go Blazen). in one hand you have a fully modded car, with every aftermarket part you can buy making ALMOST 300hp and on the other you have one part, put on a car that is making 321 before the changing of the pulley. Thats why the statement of 23 HP is so upsetting to me

anx1300c

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But you're also forgetting the fact the S/C car in question is a 6MT and Blackura's is an auto. There's ~12 whp difference in the two cars when stock. All else being equal, Blackura's car would be slightly over 300 if it was a 6MT.

CarrieLynn

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Fuck all this thread BS it's subsonicman's b-day

HAPPY
BIRTHDAY
CHRIS!!!!

stillhere153

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well since I got my integra... I've been hanging around another forum... and there... when there's a discussion about a cars potential... someone simply writes

LOCK IT UP... meaning time for a good ol' street race

subsonicman

HIN is at English Town TOO!!!!!

subsonicman

And Blacks Car is cool as hell too..... But I think he will agree the SC is wicked cool....

Slightly over 300hp is still not 321hp before the smaller pulley

the car is around 335-345hp currently.

subsonicman

Thanks!!!!

And I am Still Working on my car today!!!!!

ZOOM_ZOOM_ZOOM

MobTownTL

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wtfack o_O where did this 14-24 extra hp come from? or is that base hp?

subsonicman

Smaller Pulley, which brought the car from 3.5 pounds of boost to 4.8 pounds of boost, and custom cold air intake, and that is just a guess, because we have no real reason to go back to the dyno

CarrieLynn

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NOT TRUE! just because it is not posted in this thread does not mean subsonicman does not help azine members....
Have you or has anyone else specifically asked for his help at any point? No, I don't think so because if you had you would know him well enough that you would not make that comment.

Trew

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CarrieLynn, why are you posting in this thread... The thread title is not what you think it is!










(boy, am I gonna get it for this )

CarrieLynn

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HAHAHAHA
Trew, you are crazy! You just want me to post more random, ridiculous shit about you!

I am all over this thread, someone has to come in here and defend these guys, they are good people. Subsonicman drives a Mazda but we shouldn't hold that against him.

And yes, I am still ahead in the joke war, you are catching up with the above post but you will never beat me....NEVER! and we are all waiting for your HIN pics in the other thread, get it together, you said you were gonna win for me...how'd that go??

MobTownTL

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what do you mean by smaller pulley? sorry for the noobiness. i think i might have missed it maybe? but do you mean a crank pulley or the hbp?

Trew

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smaller crankshaft pulley means more rpms on the blower since the pulley spins faster.

Kennedy

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That's completely incorrect.
A smaller crankshaft pulley would actually SLOW the rpms of the blower pulley, reducing boost pressure. This is why Unorthodox Racing does NOT reccomend the underdrive pulley on SC's cars.

The smaller pulley is reffereed to here as the "high boost pulley" or HBP. The HBP installs on the end of the blower shaft. Smaller means it spins faster at the same input speed. In some cases, spinning faster adds more boost, which can be better... but in the case of the this blower, it pushes the RPMs in the blower too high, as the speed osf the paddles adds more heat than the additional speed provides. It 'effeciancy' of the blower is not optimal, it's pushing in more air, but at the same time, heating it up, thus reducing the air charge density... Therefore, not accomplishing much.
There's a reason Comptech doesn't ship these blowers with the HBP installed, and why installing them will void your blower warranty.



... So let me get this straight, as I read the postings above... you've arbitrarily decided you got 15-25 more HP by installing the HBP and a noisemaker CAI...
Wow.

Trew

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Kennedy... That was a very educating post. You just taught me (and some others, i bet) something!

I guess I should not have assumed... Thanks for clarifying.

CarrieLynn

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Trew, posts like that are exactly why you are not allowed out of the garage. When I get home you will be tied back up. No more azine for you!

MobTownTL

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that's what i was thinking... he said he already installed the hbp when he installed the blower, and i've heard here that a UR pulley actually decreases performance on the sc, so i was thinking... whoaaa how did he get that kinda increase outta no where?

kneedragger87

Kennedy schools us quite frequently.

subsonicman

I help S_heng all the time. He Infact does most if not all of his own work

subsonicman

Dude, you really need to relax. And get a hobby, You spend way to much time hating on this car. the fact is this car is FAST. The Car is 100% Safe. If you would like to come by and see it, play with it what ever, take a trip to CT, my door is always open, S_Heng is always at the shop, and you can see the car. I would really enjoy meeting you. I will even take you to EMS

the car came with a pulley form a kit for a 3.2L the supercharger is on a 3.5L. the HBP, smaller pulley is to give you a real/better boost level. the kit was good for 4-5 pounds of boost, we were getting 3.2 pounds. Now we are getting 4-5

I look forward to meeting you someday, we should form a meet just so you and I can meet. Who Knows, we might even become good friends

subsonicman

I own a shop, A very small shop, In real life it is like a Tuner consignment shop, and I often help people work on there cars. Just Sunday, I am in helping S_Heng, And johnny Rocket put on rear struts, and eibach springs. (it was my birthday) carrielynn was the drink bicth too. So thats 3 A-ziners I have helped, I have also fixed Tint for Azine members, I am putting A K20 in for a Azine member. I am always more then willing to help people out, Often times I dont even make money on the help..... Damn bad bussiness again

The Truth is I am not a vendor on this site, nor will they let me be a vendor. That being said the vendors on this site have an issue with me helping people with my input. I helped a kid with a question about springs, and gave him my input, next thing you know I got a warning from a moderator. I helped a kid with a radio question, (radios and dremels are at the heart of my bussiness) I got my final warning, and so now I dont help people, because I dont want to get kicked off the site, so I dont list my friends by name any more, and i dont list parts by name. So, if you ever want help, you can PM me, or you can call me. My real email is on my website (which has very parts listed) because I dont have any time to list them.

CarrieLynn

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^ SEE told you guys he helps!!
that is ALL truth!

subsonicman

Even the part about you being the drink Bitch

MobTownTL

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ok, so this is where i get confused... he said the hbp went on the same day as when you dynoed at 321, right? so what pulley are you talking about? the ur crank pulley supposedly gives you worst gains than the stock pulley with the s/c on from what another member has said. so i'm still just wondering where that extra 14-24 hp came from as stated before?

subsonicman

same day as dyno, just after we got back to the shop after the dyno was finished

MobTownTL

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ahhh. ok that makes sense noww lol

CarrieLynn

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yea, I was the drink bitch, I don't care, I gotta keep my azine men happy! HAHAHA, but I did help though I fixed Sean's door sills but you weren't there then and I did other stuff too, I fixed Johnny Rocket's door....

do you know Sean is the the beach right now? HATE HIM!

CarrieLynn

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Sean, this is for you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExsQQ...eature=channel

NBPacuraTL

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LOL @ phone call, but should do it outside of a crowded parking lot next time.

CarrieLynn

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hahaha, that was me and that was at the CT meet thats why it was crowded and I didn't wanna get kicked out