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Old 05-18-2012, 01:43 PM
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^^^

i apologize man....i posted that up from the top of my head....i didnt have the orders excel open in front of me....

now that I have it open, you will be getting yours, along with Feji and Justn
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Well i recieved my "package" today but it was only a fuel Pump assembly pictures below... Texted Rodney and he said the Injectors were shipped but in a different box that i did not get a tracking number for... This is getting too out of hand.. The ECU was not shipped... I could've bought the injectors and pumps back in December but instead i decided to buy it throw Rodney cuz I was already buying the ECU... This is just bullshit... I wanted my ECU months ago...

The box was shipped from P2R and the Aeromotive 340lph (11142) pump was installed in what looks like a used assembly.. I know this was all tested but theres no reason the assembly should be dirty and still had gas that spilled out on me when i took it out... And the pump is just held in by ZIPTIES... Wont the gasoline eventually eat the ziptie??











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Can you hold off on dropping that pump in the tank until I see it?
Not because I wanna get one, but because I wanna take a look at that FPR, and the unit as a whole.
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The FPR should be a stock one but yea I'll hold off installing it...
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Originally Posted by FCVadi
thanks Anil!

For those who have the ECU how are you guys setting it up in the cabin? is it under the passenger foot well? or some folks keeping it up against stock ECU?

Pictures would be great

I have mine mounted under the passenger seat. I had to remove the little plastic hook that keeps the carpet in place to get the ECU far enough under the seat. My thinking was that the stock ECU is on the passenger side and it was a straight shot. I would have mounted it where KN and Libert did in the passenger footwell, but I asked for the extended harness before I knew how it would fit. I think the footwell is the better location especialy if it doesn't stick out. Here are some questionable pics I took and better ones from another members install.





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^^^ so do you have the ECU under the seat or in the passenger footwell ???

Alex,
I feel you bro....I am getting a little tired of waiting as well, but am hoping everything comes as I expect....
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Originally Posted by swoosh
^^^ so do you have the ECU under the seat or in the passenger footwell ???

Alex,
I feel you bro....I am getting a little tired of waiting as well, but am hoping everything comes as I expect....
No fuck that. I barely drive my car. Its almost june already and I've had it torn apart waiting for these parts for a few weeks.. if I don't have everything by june 1st, ima just forget about this shit get a refund... its not fun anymore so I just dgaf about it. Its getting to be a pain in my ass instead of enjoying. The AEM FIC could do the shit I need to run my s/c and its almost 1000 cheaper and I WOULD'VE HAD IT BY NOW
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Alex: Listen man. Just give up.....and sell all your parts to me!

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Originally Posted by InFaMouSLink
No fuck that. I barely drive my car. Its almost june already and I've had it torn apart waiting for these parts for a few weeks.. if I don't have everything by june 1st, ima just forget about this shit get a refund... its not fun anymore so I just dgaf about it. Its getting to be a pain in my ass instead of enjoying. The AEM FIC could do the shit I need to run my s/c and its almost 1000 cheaper and I WOULD'VE HAD IT BY NOW
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LMAO @ opel... I was gonna call you on the way back home but shit got busy at home real quick lol. ima call you tomorrow morning
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Opel and Alex,

What are the things you gotta look for in a fuel pump ??? I ordered the same fuel pump but just wanted to make sure I can check it as Alex did....
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OK i so played a little more with the fuel assembly and the Zip tie that is holding the fuel pump in horizontally is preventing the 2 "plungers" to go down.. Right side next to thumb...

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Oh and as a FYI, this isn't a whole assembly with the sender unit. You must reuse the one in the vehicle..

http://estore.honda.com/acura/parts/...=&b=B++03&dl=#

tomorrow im am goingto finish wiring up my fuel pressure gauge and get some test PSI readings before adding this in my tank...
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just installed my ecu, works great, but can someone please send me the .ini file for the ecu definition please. rodney is on a road trip right now.
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^^^ Alex, can you please make a DIY or some like that ?
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Very easy anil but I'll def take pics
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hi speed - thanks for the info and pics, gives some good ideas
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just unplugged my j&r ecu, afr was saying i was running too rich. maxing out my aem uego gauge. was reading 11.1, car was gettin way too much fuel. maybe the wrong basemap?
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i have yet to receive/install the egr block off plate, could that be causing the afr issue?
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^ no to your EGR block off. Is your AEM Uego Calibrated properly?

Edit.. My bad. I think only the Innovate LC1 does this...
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calibrated with tuner studio i assume? there is no way to "Free air Calibrate" the AEM UEGO 30-410. i have yet to run tunerstudio, rodney was saying i needed the new .ini file for the ecu definition, if anyone would like to kindly e-mail it to me please

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Maybe you guys need to dump the AEM stuff and pick up an Innovate MTX-L or LC-1 .

I read nothing but problems with AEM, yet everyone's still on the bandwagon
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^ how about lets fix yours lol. Oh and my FPR is already crushed by Rodney for more PSI. We'll talk tomorrow.
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wait, u can actually calibrate the aem gauge. my wide-band sensor is welded on the 10 o'clock position. but the gauge is set to the 2 o'clock position(default). i hope changing that helps,
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Originally Posted by InFaMouSLink
^ how about lets fix yours lol. Oh and my FPR is already crushed by Rodney for more PSI. We'll talk tomorrow
Ive been staying off boost for a year, so I don't really care for it, yet. Im gonna take out the thermostat one day, and go boosting....see what happens lol
I haven't found the motivation to drop the heads, bcs if I do, then I'm gonna wanna tune right after.


Thats why i tried to stop you from installing it, just yet! lol.... its hard to see stuff like that in the pics, but thats what I wanted to look at bcs i thought I saw something funny, and then find out WHY?
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Originally Posted by laosthaha
wait, u can actually calibrate the aem gauge. my wide-band sensor is welded on the 10 o'clock position. but the gauge is set to the 2 o'clock position(default). i hope changing that helps,

??? gauge or sensor.. The sensor should be at a minimum of 10degree angle from the 3 o'clock position( or 9) and gauge should be on P0... read page 7 and 8 of this >
http://www.aemelectronics.com/Images...%2030-4100.pdf
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...To add some more to the FPR...why does this need to be crushed? This was done to archive a bit higher pressure off the stock pump with the S/C application, which is very primitive. But now, having a pump able to supply more pressure, and still do this?
Is there any numbers/specs on this pump vs. stock pump?

I think my FPR has gone bad. I never used to smell my exhaust through normal driving, but now I do. I'm running rich down low. On that note, now maybe I'll fix my LC-1 lol
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Originally Posted by InFaMouSLink
??? gauge or sensor.. The sensor should be at a minimum of 10degree angle from the 3 o'clock position( or 9) and gauge should be on P0... read page 7 and 8 of this >
http://www.aemelectronics.com/Images...%2030-4100.pdf
my bad, i changed it from 3 o'clock(default p0) to 9'o'clock(p4) on the back of the gauge. seems to be better now on the stock ecu. i hope this will solve my issue when i plug in the j&r ecu. will update tommorrow morning
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which setting do you guys recommend ?

Configuring Calibration Outputs
If a different O2 sensor calibration is desired, the AEM calibration can be changed to
one of three available. The AEM default position is (P0) if an AFR Gauge was
purchased and (P1) if a Lambda Gauge was purchased. These settings implement a
linear calibration with the most useful voltage range possible (0-5V). The AFR
calibration (P2) is linear and similar to (P1) with a slightly smaller voltage range (1-2V).
The AFR calibration (P3) emulates the Autronic Wideband O2 Sensor calibration (0-1V).
The AFR calibration (P4) emulates a non-linear Nernst Cell calibration (0-1V). Refer to
the Table and Graph for specific calibration details.
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Do you have the ms3 connected to the afr? If so, see what's it set at in the ms3. Kn showed how to check and modify a few pages back. It should be on AEM 0-5v iirc
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https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=43
Originally Posted by swoosh
once he has the payment, he will start shipping the unit....i see people on the list having the ECU by like end of Feb (latest) if we have enough interest by the end of December....so a 1.5 month turn around time....
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...4&postcount=45
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Once he has payment he still needs to buy the actual components, assemble them and get your harness put together. These are made to order and not sitting on the shelf.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...7&postcount=58
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and thats why i said he will need 2 months from the time payments are made
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Seems like a lot of people were mislead.
I, for one, expected to be the guinea pig.
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Libert_ are you just late with that response our are you trying to say something else?
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@laosthaha

If you are concerned about your wideband reading way out of range, unplug the ECU and run it stock. What do you get? The AEM's are factory calibrated so unfortunately there isn't anything you can do about that. I left the jumper on the factory setting and just use the 0-5 AEM selection in the AFR/EGO control config under the Fuel tab.

Did Rodney tell you what version is loaded in your ECU? You can get the INI from the ms3efi site. If you post up a screenshot of the mismatch error, I can point you in the right direction.
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Originally Posted by InFaMouSLink
Libert_ are you just late with that response our are you trying to say something else?
late? no...just stickin it in swoosh's face since he thought he knew/knows everything about everything

cant find my other post (probably another thread back in decemeber) where i told you guys dont be pissed when your deadlines come and go
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went to a car meet yesterday, they had a dyno available...so i took the opportunity to see what a $1400 ECU would do for me.

one of the main reasons why i made the 2 hour drive was to dyno my car. it's a 07 TL-S fully bolted...(aemV2, UR pulley, v3 pcds, v3 jpipe, xlr8 quad exhaust, JnR ECU)...and i was hoping to be somewhere close to 300whp.

after the dyno, final numbers were 186.3 whp and 156.4 torque. i expected 100 more whp, so...either the JnR ECU is jacked up, and/or their dyno was WAY off base. i don't know what to think. but i am disappointed to say the least...and i'm searching for answers. plenty of other cars dyno'd that day and put down great numbers. like a turbo g35 put down 404whp...so how the hell do i put down what a base AT TL with NO modifications puts down stock? makes no sense...and i'm thinking the JnR ECU is to blame. i wish i would have did a run or 2 with it unplugged, but we ran out of time. i think the base map i was supplied with is nowhere near where it should be for my car. my suggestion, anyone running the JnR ECU...get it professionaly tuned for YOUR CAR. don't just plug in and go. get it tuned safely. i have unplugged mine for the time being until i get my AFR guage mounted/knock monitor hooked up and then i'm going to get it tuned at a shop. i'm done with this BS. the tuner behind the wheel said my car was pulling A LOT of timing and he is pretty sure he heard knock during the high RPM wot runs. <-that has JnR written all over it. i am starting to regret my purchase...and feel as tho i was mislead during the group buy. i hope to put my mind at ease after i get everything tuned responsibly. but for now, i'm pissed i wasted $50 and got bunk numbers.

i'd like to see what my car would do without the JnR ECU hooked up.



i am waiting for the videos to upload to YouTube and then i'll post them. shit is taking forever this morning.
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^ i think that dyno was completely out of wack... even for a turbo g,404 seems low... they didn't set something up properly... you would've felt the difference just connecting the ECU. RWD/FWD/gear done at... waiting for video...
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That dyno is missing a lot of info too. What was the temperature?
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Originally Posted by libert69
late? no...just stickin it in swoosh's face since he thought he knew/knows everything about everything

cant find my other post (probably another thread back in decemeber) where i told you guys dont be pissed when your deadlines come and go
so where is your TL Bert ??? aaah i thought so

I communicated on the forums what Rodney told me to....

did i mislead anybody ?
HELL YEAH....including myself....

If i had my ECU back in Jan and kept telling people ohh another 2 days, i would be at fault....I have made a payment before anyone else on the GB (except Alex) and I am still waiting on my stuff....to an extend I told Rodney to ship out my ECU to someone else who cant wait....do i need my stuff, FUCK YEAH....but do i come on the forum flaming people ? NO !!!

Bert, you gotta know better than this....I told Rodney to say a turn around time of 3 months (to avoid any problems) and he was adamant to put it 3 weeks.....i really asked him to put 1.5 months.....as if you ship it before the ETA, everyone is happy.....if you ship it after the ETA, people like you come flaming the messenger....

Either way, i can understand your frustration....you might be waiting for your car to get back from Rodneys....Good luck with that and dont blow the engine this time.....

Originally Posted by SharksBreath
went to a car meet yesterday, they had a dyno available...so i took the opportunity to see what a $1400 ECU would do for me.......i am waiting for the videos to upload to YouTube and then i'll post them. shit is taking forever this morning.
Aaron,

gonna post exactly what i posted in your thread

Originally Posted by swoosh
Aaron, sorry i cudnt help you more on text....but i gaurantee something was messed up with the dyno....as i remember you posting that you felt a lot more power through out the power band with the ECU installed....i know that was the butt dyno but hey i think you would have felt a difference if you lost 50HP....

Chad, Base MT dyno's around 220-ish and base AT dynos around 210-ish

I def think there is something wrong with the dyno....you should have been closer to +100 (on the figures) on the dyno....

EDIT: what gear did they run in, i wont be surprised if they ran her in 4th as compared to 3rd....


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