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Old 03-27-2015, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
4.6 miles per fkng gallon?

Murrica fk yeah!

but still...
I've gotten 3
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3 miles per gallon = 300 smiles per gallon (rounded up to the nearest sh*t stained underwear).

I know the feeling though...when you get done doing something really awesome and you didn't jump a curb or flip the car and for a split second as the adrenaline is leaving you finally try and decide if you just had fun, got really fuking scared...or both.
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My heart was pumping extra heavy the other day sitting in my cube just thinking about lighting up the tires. #cardio
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You're gonna be so skinny.
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BTdubs.. I hit reverse the other day and put my foot into the throttle because the the TL was sluggish AF in reverse. I think I got small kine whiplash.. and almost pulled a spacejam and hopped the curb.. I think it accelerates in reverse faster than the TL going forward.
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Your car is awesome. Stop bashing your ex biatch.
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Justn.. if we did j turns in the 24 hour parking lot.. this might be the result.

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Your car is awesome. Stop bashing your ex biatch.
I miss her.. I want to stick her on the low.
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@spacejam.
I was like that's gotta be me.


be safe out there Joe! we dont wanna hear about any 24 hourparking lot stories!!
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Originally Posted by Majofo
BTdubs.. I hit reverse the other day and put my foot into the throttle because the the TL was sluggish AF in reverse. I think I got small kine whiplash.. and almost pulled a spacejam and hopped the curb.. I think it accelerates in reverse faster than the TL going forward.
The AT takes a whole freaking 3 seconds to switch to reverse, that shit always make me go :|
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The AT takes a whole freaking 3 seconds to switch to reverse, that shit always make me go :|
Gives you just enough time to prepare for dat VTEC.
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Originally Posted by Franchise1124
Gives you just enough time to prepare for dat VTEC.
Oh yes, like the glass Honda transmission wouldn't rip apart instantly.


What's up with Honda and their trannies?
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Originally Posted by polobunny
Oh yes, like the glass Honda transmission wouldn't rip apart instantly.


What's up with Honda and their trannies?
You get what you pay for

Oh, you meant the 5AT. That thing has been garbage for quite some time.
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
@spacejam.
I was like that's gotta be me.


be safe out there Joe! we dont wanna hear about any 24 hourparking lot stories!!

I'm getting too confident at this point.. I'm trying to be chill.



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The AT takes a whole freaking 3 seconds to switch to reverse, that shit always make me go :|
That's not normal..
I meant it was a dog in reverse.. not slow to engage.

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Gives you just enough time to prepare for dat VTEC.
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Iunno, mine is perfectly fine *knocks on wood*

In fact shifts in sport mode are surprisingly quick given all of the hate it gets

We'll see what it feels like after I go with Redline Type F + change the 3rd and 4th pressure switches
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Originally Posted by Franchise1124
You get what you pay for

Oh, you meant the 5AT. That thing has been garbage for quite some time.
5AT mated with the V6... and even the 6MTs aren't that fantastic. S2000 diff anyone?

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I'm getting too confident at this point.. I'm trying to be chill.





That's not normal..
I meant it was a dog in reverse.. not slow to engage.



In slow in both terms. The slow engage is my pressure switches, obvs, from my 2nd to 3rd being harsher than normal. Still, 5AT on the V6 Hondas... god.
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Originally Posted by Majofo

I'm getting too confident at this point.. I'm trying to be chill.





That's not normal..
I meant it was a dog in reverse.. not slow to engage.



Yeah mine engages instantly ...
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Yeah mine engages instantly ...
Used to be mighty fine, then... well it wasn't fine. I blame winter. I'm keeping it soft until I get to do the switches. Then I'll 3x3 this mofo. Don't have access to a garage though unless I bug my uncle about it and CBA rolling around in slushy snow to do shit like this obviously.
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Originally Posted by polobunny
5AT mated with the V6... and even the 6MTs aren't that fantastic. S2000 diff anyone?



In slow in both terms. The slow engage is my pressure switches, obvs, from my 2nd to 3rd being harsher than normal. Still, 5AT on the V6 Hondas... god.
It's interesting because while the shift from 2nd to 3rd when using sport mode is definitely noticeably more "firm", its 100% smooth in auto for me - in fact its not really all that noticeable even when I'm looking for it. Now manually downshifting from 3rd to 2nd ... definitely harsh
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I personally have no qualms with the 6MT aside from needing GM's MT fluid
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Originally Posted by polobunny
In slow in both terms. The slow engage is my pressure switches, obvs, from my 2nd to 3rd being harsher than normal. Still, 5AT on the V6 Hondas... god.
That's not how this works.. that's not how any of this works.

Reverse and 2nd to 3rd doesn't involve pressure switch. It could be actuator, otherwise it's fluid and mechanical effort. Don't mix fluids.. what fluid are you on now and when did you change it?
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Originally Posted by polobunny
Used to be mighty fine, then... well it wasn't fine. I blame winter. I'm keeping it soft until I get to do the switches. Then I'll 3x3 this mofo. Don't have access to a garage though unless I bug my uncle about it and CBA rolling around in slushy snow to do shit like this obviously.
I keep on putting off doing the 3x3 myself but it needs to get done for my own peace of mine - I just recently did my first oil change after picking the car up in November and in all honesty I think I just got very lucky with my purchase because like my mechanic said, the maintenance records check out like an A+ student's transcript, but seeing as the ATF stuff and the switches aren't listed as regular maintenance at the dealership, I'm sure its still riding on Honda ATF.
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That's not how this works.. that's not how any of this works.


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Originally Posted by Majofo
That's not how this works.. that's not how any of this works.

Reverse and 2nd to 3rd doesn't involve pressure switch. It could be actuator, otherwise it's fluid and mechanical effort. Don't mix fluids.. what fluid are you on now and when did you change it?
Maj I'm curious as to what the pressure switch change does then? I get that it wouldn't do anything for reverse being slow to engage (that one seems like a no-brainer to me at least) but lots of people have said that their shifts from 2nd to 3rd were significantly smoother with an ATF swap and new pressure switches... or would that be primarily from the new ATF?
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frantz is being the funny one today.
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1-2-3 is actuator + accumulator + mechanical, no switch engagement. 3-4-5 engages switches at a certain line pressure, you change the switches because the spec on switch activation gets sloppy. There's nothing wrong with Honda ATF. Just don't drive 100k miles on it without changing it. Change it at least every 25-30k miles.
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Just be careful with the ATF fill plug when popping it. I believe crabs had an issue with his fill plug at some point.

Otherwise changing your ATF is easier than changing your oil IMO.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
1-2-3 is actuator + accumulator + mechanical, no switch engagement. 3-4-5 engages switches at a certain line pressure, you change the switches because the spec on switch activation gets sloppy. There's nothing wrong with Honda ATF. Just don't drive 100k miles on it without changing it. Change it at least every 25-30k miles.
Gotcha, so the fluid change would be what is contributing to overall better performance in the low gears
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Just be careful with the ATF fill plug when popping it. I believe crabs had an issue with his fill plug at some point.

Otherwise changing your ATF is easier than changing your oil IMO.
my friend had an auto TL and came to me because of my garage..
he did the work, i was just supervising (like always ) and he broke the fill plug...cracked the threads to the tranny case by using a breaker bar.

wasnt able to screw the plug back in because the threads were missing on the tranny case.
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Well.. that's a loaded question. If it's old ATF.. it might only be running because the fluid is nice and thick. datass.jpg

Honda ATF is fairly thin. So.. if there is a mechanical issue already, the thin stuff will polarize it. If your car has a history of ATF changes, you shouldn't worry. If you have +100k miles on it with no record of change.. might want to just let it run into the ground. Otherwise do a change and fill, drive around for a while just to make sure it's not problematic before doing further change and fills.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
my friend had an auto TL and came to me because of my garage..
he did the work, i was just supervising (like always ) and he broke the fill plug...cracked the threads to the tranny case by using a breaker bar.

wasnt able to screw the plug back in because the threads were missing on the tranny case.
ah, I thought that was you.

was his name Murphy?

I apply a certain pressure with impact extensions and breaker bar.. if it feels too tight, I tighten a bit then take a hammer to exert quick pressure to pop it.
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funny enough, his name is Justin. we worked together at some point in time and I didnt know he bought a TL.

he Dumped the TL shortly after that and picked up a G8.
dont know if it's the GXP in six speed or not, we lost contact.....probably because of fill plug incident.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
That's not how this works.. that's not how any of this works.

Reverse and 2nd to 3rd doesn't involve pressure switch. It could be actuator, otherwise it's fluid and mechanical effort. Don't mix fluids.. what fluid are you on now and when did you change it?
Honda DW1, never changed it myself. Danger zooooone

3rd gear pressure switch engages at a much lower pressure because it's fucked. Car flicks to 3rd gear when it shouldn't. Grabs when it shouldn't, pretty much. Or at least that's what I heard.

Either way, I need to do both because this shit breaks apart. It's not a the slipping stage yet, but I imagine it would soon be. Used to be fine prior to winter, isn't so fine now.

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I keep on putting off doing the 3x3 myself but it needs to get done for my own peace of mine - I just recently did my first oil change after picking the car up in November and in all honesty I think I just got very lucky with my purchase because like my mechanic said, the maintenance records check out like an A+ student's transcript, but seeing as the ATF stuff and the switches aren't listed as regular maintenance at the dealership, I'm sure its still riding on Honda ATF.
Probably is.

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1-2-3 is actuator + accumulator + mechanical, no switch engagement. 3-4-5 engages switches at a certain line pressure, you change the switches because the spec on switch activation gets sloppy. There's nothing wrong with Honda ATF. Just don't drive 100k miles on it without changing it. Change it at least every 25-30k miles.
Will run Red Line Racing + D4 mix (à la 65% as in the thread floating around here).


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Just be careful with the ATF fill plug when popping it. I believe crabs had an issue with his fill plug at some point.

Otherwise changing your ATF is easier than changing your oil IMO.
What did he do with the ATF fill plug?
Edit: Nvm, well lol, yeah ain't gonna do that.
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Now the G8 GXP is a real unicorn...
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Now the G8 GXP is a real unicorn...
Seen 1 in my life. We totally don't have any of these in Canada.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Well.. that's a loaded question. If it's old ATF.. it might only be running because the fluid is nice and thick. datass.jpg

Honda ATF is fairly thin. So.. if there is a mechanical issue already, the thin stuff will polarize it. If your car has a history of ATF changes, you shouldn't worry. If you have +100k miles on it with no record of change.. might want to just let it run into the ground. Otherwise do a change and fill, drive around for a while just to make sure it's not problematic before doing further change and fills.
At 60k miles right now, regularly maintained at the Acura dealership (not that it counts for much) prior to me buying it, and no mechanical issues with the tranny (again, knocks on wood) so I think I'm just going to go with the Redline Type F + D4 combination when I do my pressure switches in the next week or so
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Originally Posted by justnspace
funny enough, his name is Justin. we worked together at some point in time and I didnt know he bought a TL.

he Dumped the TL shortly after that and picked up a G8.
dont know if it's the GXP in six speed or not, we lost contact.....probably because of fill plug incident.
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Seen 1 in my life. We totally don't have any of these in Canada.
Its a shame really because I think its an awesome car - I was considering one before the TL, but just couldn't find a V8 G8 with low mileage in Ontario or Quebec.


Honestly, would rather own a G8 versus a vette - same engine but all the creature comforts of a sedan
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Redline and D4 mix bullshit. Everyone do yourself a favor and use D4 or stick with Honda ATF.
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