lscld

Oh, by the way, I asked my dealer about the '07s and he said that the changes were to consist of different head lights and tail lights and an upgraded navi. I didn't ask him about HP changes or a type-s, I'll ask him about that next time I go in. I know this info has been thrown around on this thread millions of times already, but I just wanted to add what I've heard.

jdeec

updated navi as in new software or just new maps/points of interest

beldredge

I'm looking to replace my TSX with a larger, AWD car, so I'd be absolutely thrilled if SH-AWD came to the TL for 2007, but c'mon.

I know I'm just repeating what several others keep on saying here on this thread, but being realistic, I can't see the addition of SH-AWD in the middle of a model cycle. And if they're not going to do that, there is also no practical way to significantly increase the HP on that FWD platform.

I agree with the others - facelift on the headlights and taillights, 5-10 extra horses, and maybe the keyless from the RL. That's it.

Now, I'll be more than happy to put my money where my mouth is if I'm wrong. Sure would beat the cost of a 530xi, M35x, GS300awd, RL......

lembowski

iTrader: (1)

Well that would be just fine for me. I would like to see if I could swap out the lights, front and rear if they are better. I would also like to see if they make any slight changes to the a-spec body kit

acuraz88

buahahah.. that's the craziest one I heard so far.. TL type-R

SGT SLAUGHTER

That is good, this thread keeps on getting better and better!
Type-R

whatjones911

this thread is fun!

TL CHROMETIDE

I just got back from American Honda Motor Co., Inc. in Torrance, California. I have a few secrets and pics.

Just playing!

gainsay

so... what are you waiting for....? Show us the picture please!

gainsay

Dang! got punk'd again!

VelfarreClubber

I call

*edit*
best joke of the thread

lscld

As in new points of intrest/maps. But he's just a salesman, so what does he know? And you also have to remember that he's trying to sell me an '06 now and he doesnt want me to wait till '07 so he's intentionally trying to make the changes sound minor.

Abbass Hassani

300+ HP is a myth...not until 2009 guys...Everything you are all saying is for a complete model change...this is a "refreshening", not a rebirth...

The type S that came out on the Second gen was just a tweaked intake and exhaust system...expect the same to be true for this year IF a type S actually does happen.


I for one am not a fan of putting more than 260 horses to the front wheels...

Hopefully in a week or two we will stop speculating and drewl on some facts

Cheers

Kennedy

iTrader: (2)

Ok, this is gonna lead to another off topic thread... but I'm gonna lead with it.
Even if the TL gets an updated Navi disk that enable the TSX trip computer features and zagat ratings and such... it may be as simple as a new disk to upgrade.

The problem may be, these vehicle specific programs may not accurately work in our older TL's, as the programming is designed with the 2007 platform, it's fuel consumption, yada yada. We've shown you can load the Accord .bin file and get these function to "be enabled", but you lose other functions, and the new functions aren't always accurate, as the algorithms are programmed based on the particular vehicles specifications.

No doubt it will probably workout to get the new disk in hopes of getting the new features, but odds are an upgrade will never be 100% accurate because the software is specified to the engine specs. The new TL has more HP based off different tuning, and I'd suspect that to reflect.

Acura98TL

Do you know when they are gonna make the official announcement of their 07 line-up????

Radcliffe1

Have not posted on Acurazine in months but this is the most insane thread ever.
I look forward to the '07 release but so much talk about so little.
Must be killing everyone.
Only time will tell....

TriniBwoy

brian92873

i believe that is the chinese version right? (this comes from a chinese site)

S L I C K

That better not be the 2007 Acura TL.

Rocura

It's not. It's the Chinese version again. Here's the source of the pics plus more:


http://www.uncars.com/cartest/specialtest/37384.shtml
http://www.uncars.com/cartest/specialtest/37384_2.shtml

dampfnudel

I may be wrong, but I have a feeling the taillights will look just like that.

whatjones911

Me too. And I also feel that the 07 will look exactly just like that which means not much change at all.

Acuraboy7

it will change as much as the honda accord did most people lease theses cars so they don't change them as much

krio

That's right! Why not 500 hp? Or an All+Rear+Front WD at the same time... great

Acuraboy7

I doubt they will do AWD in the TL it will hurt RL sales too much why buy an RL then they are just about the same size anyway, but I'm sure they will do the Type S I called my sales guy today I said don't BS me I want to know he said its going around but hes not totally sure then I told if so put me down for one

ITL

signal mirrors and taillights is what I see in that pic those signal mirrors are

A_UFO

I have already researched what it would take to upgrade the 04 - 06 TL Navi units to the 4.x generation Navi if it is released on the 07 TL. You will have to spend $3,500 to replace the Navi Unit and $200 for the new DVD.

You can read the the details of my research in the thread below.

07 TL Hopefully have 4.x Nav Version; 04 - 06 Force Upgrade

havenlock

I don't think yo'ure wrong. I don't know if they'll be identical (okay pretty darn close) but they're going to be similar. I bought my Honda Pilot in 04 and by 05 they had the JDM tail lights on it. Fugly IMO.

Kennedy

iTrader: (2)

I've read that thread... That's not my point. Not only that, you can pick up used Navi's off autopart salvage for $500+ as 2007.

If you were to buy said equipment/disks and install it in your TL many function still may not be accurate (as those function are based of algorithms around certain vehicle specs), as the equipment was designed to run on a different platform... That would be like, well, running the Accord or TSX software in the TL. It might work, but it'll probably break other things, and not be accurate.

SatinSilverTypS

iTrader: (1)

i like RWD as much as the next guy but they need to think of us people in the north/northeast who get snow 5 months a year. we need some front wheel drive sleighs we can get around in and still eat up mustangs with. this is mainly why i'm turned off from infiniti and lexus. if you get AWD you have to take the smaller engine choice. it's BS.

SSTS

GenXY2k

the term " Type-R " does not exist in the US anymore..... it died couple years ago when they stop importing integra type-R ..... it was the only type-R we ever had
TL-Type-R ??? what's acura gonna do ?? put a M3 engine in it ???

123456SPEED

The current TL has been a big seller for Honda, they are not gonna spend much money upgrading a car that is selling well and at the top of it's segment. (If it ain't broke...)

Tail and headlight tweaks, maybe a button to start it, some technical upgrades. They are not gonna move the TL closer to the RL in any serious way, esp since the US RL is such a low volume seller. (I've heard and seen used RLs going for mid 30's already). Now there's a car needing some major tweaking at least in styling, and some features, but I hear they're gonna offer a decontented (cheaper) version.

I prefer coupes but with Acura's coupe drought I'm starting to look at sedans, thought I never would.

Acuraboy7

Yeah RWD sucks, my BMW 330 was crap in the snow, and if get the AWD it slows it down too much the reason I got it was my 02 Type-s had that trans problem and not just once but, Twice! they gave me my money back. But sometimes ya got to bite the bullet and try again.

AltecBX

I know is little, but is confirmed that the '07 TL will have different tires.

whatjones911

Maybe standard 18" wheels?

Bianca TL

Well that's small but good news, as the tires that came with my TL only lasted 20,000 miles and were low-performers anyway. They were the worst thing about the car. Have a new set of Pirelli's and they're great.

Acuraboy7

I agree, but what Acura/Honda needs to build is a larger car then the RL. i think others look down on Acura a little cuz they don't have a Full size car in their line up, they also don't have a V8 which is fine with me cuz they know how to squeez the power out of an egn but, people that are not car buffs don't know that. Also there is nothing wrong with up grading the TL, all the other car co's do it BMW 3,5, have a M3 and M5, benz has the C55 and the E55 and Audi S4 , S6 and lexus makes a GS 430 "V8" along side the GS300 and so on. People are going to buy what fits their needs having other egn opts would be better cuz their are people out there that want an E-class size without the gas guzzling V8.

Acuraboy7

P-Zero's ??? thats what I got....I love em!! they do tramline a little tho

Drunkenmunky23

why couldn't those ppl just get a e320, which is a 6cyl.....?

beldredge

Certainly Acura needs to differentiate the TL and RL, but holding the TL back by denying it more power and AWD shouldn't be the way to do it.

I was thinking about this last night - BMW, for example, has the 330xi and 530xi. Both share the same engine and drivetrain, but that alone doesn't mean the 3-series incringes on the 5-series' sales. There are other, more fundamental, differences, such as a significant size difference and perhaps some extra luxury feel to the 5-series that meets certain buyers' needs.

Hopefully by 2009 when the TL is made-over, presumably with AWD, Acura will start figuring out how to better differentiate the RL without sacrificing the advancement of the TL.