6 speed conversion, 2nd problem 9/2/17
06-25-2006, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ResidualFreedom
So Kris, if someone was to get the front clip from the CL-S that should cover everything right? What would you think the price range for that would be? 2500-4000 depending on milage? I'm just guessing here, they might add on a ton for the fenders, windows, etc...
06-28-2006, 02:41 PM
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Well in the effort to find out why the car is in a saftey mode i discovered that teh cam pulley and backing cover are different on the manual vs the the auto.
Auto on left manual on right.
I wont have time to know if it works because im heading to the USGP in a bit, but when im back ill get them installed and hopefully that will make the car work.
Auto on left manual on right.
I wont have time to know if it works because im heading to the USGP in a bit, but when im back ill get them installed and hopefully that will make the car work.
06-28-2006, 04:57 PM
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Hey Kris.. there is a thread in the CL board right now about installing RL cams into the CL-S auto engine.. I'm curious what you would think about that thread? they are battling with the rod legnth right now.. I'm just wondering if our cam pulley might work where their cam pulley doesn't ..that would be a great mod for the TL-S engine... RL cams!!! I'll get the link to the thread and post it here...
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...2&page=8&pp=25
since you are knolegable and you have you engine at this point I'm intrested in your opinion... could we work it in the TL-S engine?
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...2&page=8&pp=25
since you are knolegable and you have you engine at this point I'm intrested in your opinion... could we work it in the TL-S engine?
06-28-2006, 05:14 PM
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well the thing is is teh pulley isnt any different in size, just the pickup points for the sensors.
06-28-2006, 06:09 PM
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So the manual cam gear sensor teeth are wider... I wonder why the ECU needs to see a longer TDC pulse than the auto... 
This must be the work of Honda engineers chuckling somewhere right now as they read this thread. Those bastards.
This must be the work of Honda engineers chuckling somewhere right now as they read this thread. Those bastards.
06-28-2006, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Well in the effort to find out why the car is in a saftey mode i discovered that teh cam pulley and backing cover are different on the manual vs the the auto.
I wont have time to know if it works because im heading to the USGP in a bit, but when im back ill get them installed and hopefully that will make the car work.
I wont have time to know if it works because im heading to the USGP in a bit, but when im back ill get them installed and hopefully that will make the car work.
06-29-2006, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ThinJim
I'll bet you've found the solution. did you order both 6spd sensors and the wiring harness for them?
06-29-2006, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cl8trr
im searching for one myself and would appreciate the number and name of where u purchased it? thanks
http://www.car-part.com/index.htm
06-29-2006, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cl8trr
im searching for one myself and would appreciate the number and name of where u purchased it? thanks
here you go.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-...mZ230002470853
06-29-2006, 11:18 PM
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fsttyms1....man, you're somethin' else !!! What a fantastic job on the conversion...I am speechless....you're gettin' close....wish I could help, but can't.....thanks for your help on my tranny issue earlier in the week...will keep you posted on a different thread...I saw this 6 speed conversion for the first time and was totally taken aback by your work !!!! MR. HONDA NEEDS TO SEE THIS !!!
06-30-2006, 07:32 AM
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fsttyms1, sure are a lot of variables to consider for this swap. Did you know about most of them, or are you finding out along the way. Can't wait to see the final conversion 
06-30-2006, 10:55 AM
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random....I am sure it's not about the money ; fsttyms1....has made it a hobby....some people could think of fishing as a lot of wasted time, but some others love it....I wish I had the time, money & talent like fsttyms1 to be able to do something this challenging...and I would welcome the headaches that came along !!!
06-30-2006, 04:55 PM
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I paid 800 for my motor with 32k on it. and have less than a grand converting it to a manual motor. thats kinda pricy
Dont know about you but 5k is alot cheaper than 35k on a new car! And i dont see it as a headace, but more of a challange since no one else has done it
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I paid 800 for my motor with 32k on it. and have less than a grand converting it to a manual motor. thats kinda pricy
Originally Posted by randomwalk101
man, seemed like a lot of work, money and headache...should have just sell the car and bought a manual and enjoy it.
06-30-2006, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
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I paid 800 for my motor with 32k on it. and have less than a grand converting it to a manual motor. thats kinda pricy
Dont know about you but 5k is alot cheaper than 35k on a new car! And i dont see it as a headace, but more of a challange since no one else has done it
I paid 800 for my motor with 32k on it. and have less than a grand converting it to a manual motor. thats kinda pricy
Dont know about you but 5k is alot cheaper than 35k on a new car! And i dont see it as a headace, but more of a challange since no one else has done it
I think once he gets her tweaked properly she will bring joy for quite a few more years.
06-30-2006, 10:38 PM
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Yeah and especially doing something like this, you will be proud knowing you built a 6-speed 2G TL. Theres a certain sense of accomplishment when you do crazy things like this.
07-01-2006, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
Yeah and especially doing something like this, you will be proud knowing you built a 6-speed 2G TL. Theres a certain sense of accomplishment when you do crazy things like this.
07-01-2006, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SSMTL01
Yeah if you think about it he's actually saving money. Fstty is the car paid off?
I think once he gets her tweaked properly she will bring joy for quite a few more years.
I think once he gets her tweaked properly she will bring joy for quite a few more years.
07-01-2006, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
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I paid 800 for my motor with 32k on it. and have less than a grand converting it to a manual motor. thats kinda pricy
Dont know about you but 5k is alot cheaper than 35k on a new car! And i dont see it as a headace, but more of a challange since no one else has done it
I paid 800 for my motor with 32k on it. and have less than a grand converting it to a manual motor. thats kinda pricy
Dont know about you but 5k is alot cheaper than 35k on a new car! And i dont see it as a headace, but more of a challange since no one else has done it
BTW, 35K is a "new" car with all the lastest and greatest goodies. But anyhow, this will be my last Acura. My next one is Mercedes SL500 or may be the AMG version, SL55. I'm done with Acura.
07-01-2006, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by randomwalk101
Don't get me wrong...DIY is a great thing if one enjoy doing it (and learning)...But for ME, that's too much work and time...5K for parts is cheap but all the tools (which I don't have and would have to purchase), along with time invested and labor is too much. If I were to do it, it'll be wayyy too much (adding up all the time/tools/labor). I can just work and pay someone at $50/hr and still save money.
BTW, 35K is a "new" car with all the lastest and greatest goodies. But anyhow, this will be my last Acura. My next one is Mercedes SL500 or may be the AMG version, SL55. I'm done with Acura.
BTW, 35K is a "new" car with all the lastest and greatest goodies. But anyhow, this will be my last Acura. My next one is Mercedes SL500 or may be the AMG version, SL55. I'm done with Acura.
Good luck with benz.
07-01-2006, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by randomwalk101
Don't get me wrong...DIY is a great thing if one enjoy doing it (and learning)...But for ME, that's too much work and time...5K for parts is cheap but all the tools (which I don't have and would have to purchase), along with time invested and labor is too much. If I were to do it, it'll be wayyy too much (adding up all the time/tools/labor). I can just work and pay someone at $50/hr and still save money.
BTW, 35K is a "new" car with all the lastest and greatest goodies. But anyhow, this will be my last Acura. My next one is Mercedes SL500 or may be the AMG version, SL55. I'm done with Acura.
BTW, 35K is a "new" car with all the lastest and greatest goodies. But anyhow, this will be my last Acura. My next one is Mercedes SL500 or may be the AMG version, SL55. I'm done with Acura.
say hello to electrical problems ..i see them all the time with my s500 and also my c32 I had previously.
07-02-2006, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by randomwalk101
Don't get me wrong...DIY is a great thing if one enjoy doing it (and learning)...But for ME, that's too much work and time...5K for parts is cheap but all the tools (which I don't have and would have to purchase), along with time invested and labor is too much. If I were to do it, it'll be wayyy too much (adding up all the time/tools/labor). I can just work and pay someone at $50/hr and still save money.
BTW, 35K is a "new" car with all the lastest and greatest goodies. But anyhow, this will be my last Acura. My next one is Mercedes SL500 or may be the AMG version, SL55. I'm done with Acura.
BTW, 35K is a "new" car with all the lastest and greatest goodies. But anyhow, this will be my last Acura. My next one is Mercedes SL500 or may be the AMG version, SL55. I'm done with Acura.
07-03-2006, 03:47 PM
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should i spend more in
I said that ebay auction is too much b/c I had found that before it was posted on this site. And the seller said he is just selling the motor, no tranny, ecu's, etc. So his price is too much for just an engine IMO. I think this project that fsttyms1 has undertaken is great, and I plan to follow in his footsteps shortly. But that was just a ridiculous price.
07-10-2006, 07:45 PM
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Ok this time its ALIVE
The cam gear worked!!! No codes and daym i forgot what VTEC sounded and felt like!!!! Today made all the
"s pay off 
The cam gear worked!!! No codes and daym i forgot what VTEC sounded and felt like!!!! Today made all the
"s pay off
07-10-2006, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Ok this time its ALIVE
The cam gear worked!!! No codes and daym i forgot what VTEC sounded and felt like!!!! Today made all the "s pay off
The cam gear worked!!! No codes and daym i forgot what VTEC sounded and felt like!!!! Today made all the
"s pay off Can't wait for that vid Kris!!!
07-10-2006, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JPTL-S
:gheywave:
Can't wait for that vid Kris!!!
Can't wait for that vid Kris!!!
07-10-2006, 08:38 PM
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Man VTEC is awsome. and the sound
...Spins the tires very easy. (still have snows on though) Still dont know if the radiator fans work yet. I havent heard them run yet, but the temp gauge is at the normal spot. Ill have to test it out this week yet
on the video
07-10-2006, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by blk2001tlon19s
video man, video man ....
who cares about the windows and locks! You have a garage! lol
who cares about the windows and locks! You have a garage! lol
Plus i dont have a passenger seat in to have any one sit in it to tape it, and im too lazy to put my camera mount in toooo 
