The motor mount thread
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I don't think it will feel like a pos car, but it will definitely take any luxury out of the drive. You will feel the vibrations through the steering wheel for sure.
Has anyone tried a combo of XLR8 and OEM? Like XLR8 front and side mounts, with OEM rear mount. Using an OEM rear mount significantly helped the excessive innovate mount vibrations, maybe it can help this setup too.
Seeing that the OEM rear doesn't fail until the front and side aren't able to handle their load, it should hold up pretty well too.
Has anyone tried a combo of XLR8 and OEM? Like XLR8 front and side mounts, with OEM rear mount. Using an OEM rear mount significantly helped the excessive innovate mount vibrations, maybe it can help this setup too.
Seeing that the OEM rear doesn't fail until the front and side aren't able to handle their load, it should hold up pretty well too.
I'll probably keep this setup until the rear one craps out. I re-installed the Ingalls Stiffy as well. I don't see any engine movement when shifting the gears + holding the brake pedal down, but I sure feel it.
#1003
Another setup I am thinking of that would be the best compromise would be: Innovative front mount(vertical design), XLR8 side, and oem rear.
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INSPIRE 32V (03-30-2012)
#1006
If my XLR8 front starts getting play in it, then my next step is replacing with innovative.
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FwC (04-27-2012)
#1015
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I've only driven on these for one week, but would recommend them to anyone having problems with a shaky engine. BUT the amount of vibration throughout the cabin is a bit annoying. I have the 74A bushings. I find it helpful when sitting at idle for long periods of time to put the car in neutral or park.
I was going to write to XLR8 and give an opinion of two but since I'm already writing about it I'll just do it here.
1. The powder coat/paint on the upper mounting bolt for front and rear mount made it excessively hard to screw on the nut when securing the engine to the mount. It was at the point where I turned the nut a few turns and removed the nut to find it super hot from the friction. This could cause a few problems as my torque was at 40 before the nut even made contact with the engine mounting bracket. I think you should recommend to buyers a way to remove that stuff from the bolt or have your manufacturer not powder coat/paint that bolt.
2. The factory bolts to secure the mount to the subframe are too short. The base plate of the front and rear mounts are about 1/4" thick which I would estimate to be about 3 times thicker than the OEM base. This means the securing bolts aren't threading all the way through the nuts on the subframe. Perhaps you should include longer bolts or recommend to buyers to buy them from a local parts store. They are M10 1.25 bolts.
I was going to write to XLR8 and give an opinion of two but since I'm already writing about it I'll just do it here.
1. The powder coat/paint on the upper mounting bolt for front and rear mount made it excessively hard to screw on the nut when securing the engine to the mount. It was at the point where I turned the nut a few turns and removed the nut to find it super hot from the friction. This could cause a few problems as my torque was at 40 before the nut even made contact with the engine mounting bracket. I think you should recommend to buyers a way to remove that stuff from the bolt or have your manufacturer not powder coat/paint that bolt.
2. The factory bolts to secure the mount to the subframe are too short. The base plate of the front and rear mounts are about 1/4" thick which I would estimate to be about 3 times thicker than the OEM base. This means the securing bolts aren't threading all the way through the nuts on the subframe. Perhaps you should include longer bolts or recommend to buyers to buy them from a local parts store. They are M10 1.25 bolts.
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civicdrivr (08-25-2012)
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So, after having all 3 mounts installed for a little under a year, I'm probably going to buy a new OEM rear mount and install it. I find myself getting annoyed/aggravated from the vibrations when stopped (redlight, drive-thru, etc.) and I only have the 62a ones...guess I'm not hardcore enough lol Everytime the seasons change, I get a different area and type of vibration noise.
If I still get annoyed, then I'll just get a new OEM front one as well since the side-mount doesn't affect the engine load that much.
If I still get annoyed, then I'll just get a new OEM front one as well since the side-mount doesn't affect the engine load that much.
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So, after having all 3 mounts installed for a little under a year, I'm probably going to buy a new OEM rear mount and install it. I find myself getting annoyed/aggravated from the vibrations when stopped (redlight, drive-thru, etc.) and I only have the 62a ones...guess I'm not hardcore enough lol Everytime the seasons change, I get a different area and type of vibration noise.
If I still get annoyed, then I'll just get a new OEM front one as well since the side-mount doesn't affect the engine load that much.
If I still get annoyed, then I'll just get a new OEM front one as well since the side-mount doesn't affect the engine load that much.
RockAuto.com - Beck Arnley rear engine mount:
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...218&cc=1364925
I was able to drive on it without any noticeable vibrations, but then I put the Ingalls TQ damper on and it brought a little bit of vibration back but not enough to be irritated about. I have the 74A bushings on my mounts.
LOL You'll be happy when you use the AC too. The vibrations with AC was scary before.
-Frank
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Neejay (12-31-2012)
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I just did this last week. And I'll tell you that it makes it night and day. I got XLR8 front and side with a Beck Arnley rear that doesn't have the hydraulic line. Since this was available I removed all that tubing and the little actuator for the hydraulic lines and plugged up that little hole on the intake manifold.
RockAuto.com - Beck Arnley rear engine mount:
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...218&cc=1364925
I was able to drive on it without any noticeable vibrations, but then I put the Ingalls TQ damper on and it brought a little bit of vibration back but not enough to be irritated about. I have the 74A bushings on my mounts.
LOL You'll be happy when you use the AC too. The vibrations with AC was scary before.
-Frank
RockAuto.com - Beck Arnley rear engine mount:
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...218&cc=1364925
I was able to drive on it without any noticeable vibrations, but then I put the Ingalls TQ damper on and it brought a little bit of vibration back but not enough to be irritated about. I have the 74A bushings on my mounts.
LOL You'll be happy when you use the AC too. The vibrations with AC was scary before.
-Frank
#1022
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is there a big difference in the automatic and manual mounts? i was wondering if i can fit the manual mounts on my auto for now im planning on doing a 6 speed swap soon...my tranny is slipping i have 150,000 miles on my car
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termo001 (06-03-2013)
#1024
Just thought I would chime in here.....
My front and side mount finally bit the bullet at 118+K. These were the original mounts that came on the car. I elected to replace them with stock mounts as I do not drive my car aggressively. The car is nice and smooth now with no noticable issues. shifting seems to be much firmer on the auto and the engine does not move around like it used to.
If you are hard on your car, get stiffer mounts, if you use it as a DD with some occasional spritited driving OEM should be fine.
My front and side mount finally bit the bullet at 118+K. These were the original mounts that came on the car. I elected to replace them with stock mounts as I do not drive my car aggressively. The car is nice and smooth now with no noticable issues. shifting seems to be much firmer on the auto and the engine does not move around like it used to.
If you are hard on your car, get stiffer mounts, if you use it as a DD with some occasional spritited driving OEM should be fine.
#1029
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Okay so my mounts are shot and its time to do a swap. I drive my car pretty hard but I also daily it. I don't think I will have a problem with vibrations as long as I know its not vibrations from the mounts being broken. I just need the basically cheapest way to get the power back to the wheels so is that xlr8 or rock auto mounts? Its a 6mt.
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