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Old May 18, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Squeak came up for me about 500 miles ago. Brought it in to Radley this week for A1 service and mentioned the creak. The tech knew about the TSB and mentioned that he'd tried various fixes without success before the TSB came out. According to the tech the TSB fix is to remove the driver's seat and place a foam pad down between the rail and seat (presumably this has the same effect as ICG's dremelling). Seat rails were NOT replaced. Squeak is gone. The entire process including this fix, oil change, tire rotation, alignment check, hand wash, and touch-up paint on a tiny rock chip, took exactly 2 hours.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jpt
Squeak came up for me about 500 miles ago. Brought it in to Radley this week for A1 service and mentioned the creak. The tech knew about the TSB and mentioned that he'd tried various fixes without success before the TSB came out. According to the tech the TSB fix is to remove the driver's seat and place a foam pad down between the rail and seat (presumably this has the same effect as ICG's dremelling). Seat rails were NOT replaced. Squeak is gone. The entire process including this fix, oil change, tire rotation, alignment check, hand wash, and touch-up paint on a tiny rock chip, took exactly 2 hours.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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Does anyone have a copy of the actual TSB? I'm curious to know if all dealers are using the foam pad or if some are just moving the seat. My dealer didn't mention anything about using the foam pad. Either way, I'm just glad the noise is gone.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by driver centric
Does anyone have a copy of the actual TSB? I'm curious to know if all dealers are using the foam pad or if some are just moving the seat. My dealer didn't mention anything about using the foam pad. Either way, I'm just glad the noise is gone.
Hasn't shown up on Alldata yet, but when it does, it should be available here:

http://www.alldata.com/tsb/Acura/index-post.html
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Old May 18, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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Feb 23rd, got the car back and squeaks were gone. Appears to be back now. First heard 'em last week and now taking those corners a lil' hard and you can hear them. bugger!
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Old May 18, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jpt
Squeak came up for me about 500 miles ago. Brought it in to Radley this week for A1 service and mentioned the creak. The tech knew about the TSB and mentioned that he'd tried various fixes without success before the TSB came out. According to the tech the TSB fix is to remove the driver's seat and place a foam pad down between the rail and seat (presumably this has the same effect as ICG's dremelling). Seat rails were NOT replaced. Squeak is gone. The entire process including this fix, oil change, tire rotation, alignment check, hand wash, and touch-up paint on a tiny rock chip, took exactly 2 hours.
Is the foam between the seat rail and car floor or somewhere else?
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Old May 18, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by helraiser
Feb 23rd, got the car back and squeaks were gone. Appears to be back now. First heard 'em last week and now taking those corners a lil' hard and you can hear them. bugger!
Why not have them perform the TSB? If it wasn't issued until this month, chances are they tried one of the other non-fixes mentioned in this thread.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Just got my TSX back yesterday from a service where I had them address the squeak that had come back. This was my fourth trip. On the third trip they changed out the seat base.

I still love my TSX, it is a fantastic car.

This is what they did this time:

10383 Perform fix #1 from Techline, remove front seat mounting bolts and retighten, road test, still hear some noise, perform fix #2 remove seat, apply wool felt to seat base contact points. Re install seat, road test, noise gone.

Hmmm I wonder what fix #3 will be? Hopefully I won't need it. I am going on a long road trip with some of it on twisty roads. I have my fingers crossed that the noise will stay away for the whole trip.



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Old May 19, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Have the exact problem in my 06 TSX. Have taken it in once and they greased it but the squeak came back next day. Not as bad but still there. Will tell them about it again at the next maintenance.
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Old May 19, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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Still no squeaks...

Had the car serviced under the TSB a week ago today and after almost 500 miles there is still no squeaking. The seat feels very solid too. I will post if, God forbid, the squeaking ever comes back.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ckiggins
Hasn't shown up on Alldata yet, but when it does, it should be available here:

http://www.alldata.com/tsb/Acura/index-post.html
The TSB is out there now. No mention of foam pads: http://www.alldata.com/tsb/Acura/114...018/index.html

They're "carefully" flattening the floor panel where it contacts the seat frame, then torquing the bolts.

I'm picking up my brand-new TSX on Monday (yeah!) and hope I don't hear any seat squeaks in a month!
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Old May 22, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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Many thanks to you. I'm taking my car in Thursday for the dreaded seat squeek (mine occurs every time I go aroudn a corner) and the bulletin will help "educate" the dealer who claimed they had not heard anything about it.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Thumbs up I think this actually works!

No need to take to the dealer if you're adventurous, just follow the instructions per the TSB.

-Remove the 2 plastic covers to expose the drivers seat rear frame bolts (you need to wiggle them around to take out without snapping them)
-Remove the 4 seat frame bolts using a rachet wrench with 14mm socket
-Tilt the seat back towards the rear (I used the rachet wrench itself to prop up the seat)
-Hammer away at the spot indicated on the TSB
-I used a small round adhesive felt pad to cover the spot also
-Tighten up the 4 bolts and go for a drive.

This took me 15 minutes -- will report back if the squeaks return.
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Old May 26, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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I picked up my TSX from the dealer (Acura on Brant in Burlington) after they tackled the seat squeek and drove it about 200 kilometers without hearing anything!

I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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Have mine scheduled to go in Friday morning Referenced the TSB and he confirmed (of course I mentioned Acurazine )

We'll see how it works out!

Matt -
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Old Jun 3, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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I have an '04 with the same problem. Anyone else with this squeaking in the earlier model years? The TSB appears to be 06 specific.
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Old Jun 3, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by excited
perform fix #2 remove seat, apply wool felt to seat base contact points. Re install seat, road test, noise gone.



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I just got back from a 7000 km / 4350 mi trip through some twisty, hilly and bumpy roads but the squeak did not return. It's looking like fix #2 is a good one.



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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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My driver seat started making noise at about 1500 miles. Took it to dealer and a new seat base was ordered. The day before new base was installed the passenger seat started. The driver seat base stopped the noise and I was told to have the passenger seat checked at the first oil change. By the time I was ready for an oil change the driver seat was squeaking again, 4500 miles. This time both seats were repaired with new washers or bushings, (I never got the whole story). That fix lasted about four days and now the passenger seat is at it again, it squeaks going around corners, during acceleration, and braking. Very annoying.
I'll post again if the dealer finds a lasting fix.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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Did you see the TSB for this listed higher up in the thread? That hopefully is your lasting fix!
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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I finally took the time to perform the first part of the TSB. I tried messing with the front bolts once before the TSB came out, but that only fixed the problem for a week or so. I'm hoping this latest attempt works for good -- what have other experienced? I might just take the car in and let Acura do the second part of the TSB (that requires the hammering).
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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The squeek is back!

I checked with the dealer and it appears they did the "easy" TSB fix, not the "ballpeen hammer" fix. So, it's going in, again, on Friday.

This is beginning to annoy me.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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The noise showed up in my drivers seat of my 2006 TSX at about 3000 miles. I just went in today for the first scheduled maintenance and the technician performed the seat adjustment per the service bulletin. As of right now the seat is not making any noise and it feels rock solid. I hope it lasts because that noise is extremely annoying!!!
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Update - minor squeak returned & fixed again

Originally Posted by David Muny
No need to take to the dealer if you're adventurous, just follow the instructions per the TSB.

-Remove the 2 plastic covers to expose the drivers seat rear frame bolts (you need to wiggle them around to take out without snapping them)
-Remove the 4 seat frame bolts using a rachet wrench with 14mm socket
-Tilt the seat back towards the rear (I used the rachet wrench itself to prop up the seat)
-Hammer away at the spot indicated on the TSB
-I used a small round adhesive felt pad to cover the spot also
-Tighten up the 4 bolts and go for a drive.

This took me 15 minutes -- will report back if the squeaks return.

Some minor squeaks returned to the driver seat, so I removed it to check. I think I was slightly off on the placement of the adhesive felt pad the first time around, as I could see the rubbing from the seat on the floor. I used a larger felt pad to cover the area, didn't bother to do any further hammering. Squeak free again.

While a bit of a nuisance I would much rather do this than take it to a dealer.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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Got my car back and the squeaks are gone. Hopefully they followed the TSB and it's gone for good. Next week, I take it in to have them look at the windshield rattle.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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I got my car back Friday and the dealer indicated that they had received a Honda Canada TSB that had a different fix than the US TSB (involving felt pieces - sounds like David's post above). So, at this point, no squeek.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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Got mine back after the TSB was done. Squeeks are gone...but now I can hear my seat pad creaking. And I am not a heavy person by any means. I think when I first got my seat base replaced before the TSB was out, they must have messed something up because since then I could pretty much lift up my entire seat pad. Sometimes these little white plastic "hooks" would pop outside the seat frame. With this TSB, they put those back in place...but my seat pad moans like an 80-year old granny with arthritis :-(
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Got mine back and I doubt the TSB was done cuz I can still hear the squeaks and the pads are just as bad.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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I sometimes hear a creaking noise when making turns or sometimes hitting a bump. I really haven't bothered to track down the cause but I wonder if it is indeed the seat. I'm going to clean the car up this weekend so I might take a look to see if I can reproduce it.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Got mine back again after taking it in today, squeaks are gone and they supposedly followed the TSB. We'll see...
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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just got car back, dealer retorqued seat track and applied insulation (pad??). no squeaks so far. looks like the US TSB is different from CAN TSB. anyone has a copy of CAD TSB
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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unfortunately they never gave me a copy of the papers - said they'd mail 'em. I'll give them a week and then go after them for the paperwork.
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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Seat Fix

Mine does the same thing. Does anyone know if you have to take this back to the Acura dealer or can a Honda dealer do this? Only reason I ask is Honda dealer is 5 minutes from my house, Acura dealer is 1 hour.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 01:20 AM
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i had it service for four times and dealer still didn't do anything!!! isn't this consider lemon law??
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 01:23 AM
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Give the DIY a try. I know it should be a warranty issue but not worth the time and hassle to go back and forth to the dealer.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JFCIII70
Mine does the same thing. Does anyone know if you have to take this back to the Acura dealer or can a Honda dealer do this? Only reason I ask is Honda dealer is 5 minutes from my house, Acura dealer is 1 hour.
I am pretty sure you have to go to an Acura dealer to get warranty work done, but Honda can do normal maintenance. I'm in the same boat as you. That is why I did the TSB myself (the first non-hammer part of it) because it wasn't worth my time to drive an hour to the Acura dealer. So far so good...
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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i did the ballpeen hammer fix and it hasn't squeeked since... did it myself to save myself a trip to the dealer...

i didn't use the felt (cuz i forgot to buy it...) but the squeek hasn't returned...

it's fairly easy and it works, i'd say try to fix it yourself.. .really it's 4 bolts, and application of a hammer... it doesn't get much easier than that
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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ya, the squeaking is beginning to get very annoying. i'll try doing it this weekend.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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Do you guys have your seats at the lowest setting? i had the squeaking when it was at the lowest then I raised it up a lil bit and there has been no squeaking.

anyone else try this? I was going to take it to the dealer until I realized the squeaking was gone and since i prefer the seat a lil higher i figured i would just leave it as is.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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So I was gonna try and wait it out until there was an "ultimate" fix for the creaking, but today it finally got to me.... Was driving a friend around and had to turn the radio on to try to cover the noise---unfortunately you could still hear it w/o blasting the volume to an obnoxious level... So I'm going to go get some self-adhesive felt to cover all the contact points (as shown in the TSB) in hopes of solving the issue. My question is: How important is it that I torque the bolts to 25ft/lbs.? I read up on torque wrenches and it seems that the most accurate readings are for the mid range settings (i.e. 20-100ft/lb wrench would be around 60, or a 50-250ft/lb. wrench would be 150). Therefore the 25ft/lb setting may not be very accurate and either under/over which worries me b/c i don't want the seat to give way in the event of an accident due to lack of sufficient tightening, or the bolts to strip from over-tightening.... I'd be buying a torque wrench (with the appropriate range) specifically to do this unless it's not going to make much difference in terms of whether the reading is correct as opposed to just tightening the bolts until they are secure...
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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Thumbs up

did my fix today.... easy and straight forward..... i did not hammer down or flatten the contact points as shown in the TSB--- instead I purchased sheets of black self-adhesive felt (from a crafts store: 2 firm pads, 2 softs pads) and covered all bare-metal mounting points.... The only areas not covered were the holes for the mounting bolts..... I used the firm felt for a base layer and then put the soft felt on top of that.... works really well and not a single creak/squeak/noise..... I noticed that when I began loosening the 2 front bolts on the seat bracket that the same creaking noise could be heard and found it interesting that the front mounting points were the main areas exposed for metal to metal contact. The rear mounting points were covered by the interior carpeting (but not where the bolts are secured to the base)..... hopefully i won't have to post in this thread again unless it's to say that i'm still noise-free....

Sorry, i totally forgot to take pics.... oh well, if you do the TSB yourself, just cover everything with a couple layers of felt leaving only the mounting bolt holes exposed and you'll be good to go
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