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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Got my TSX on Monday (just hit 100 miles today), but a rattle has started in the area of the armrest/passenger seat. It really sounds more like the seat han the armrest.

People have talked at length about the squeaky drivers seat, but has anyone experienced a rattling passenger seat?

Other than this, I'm loving the car! WAY better than my RSX!
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ckiggins314
Got my TSX on Monday (just hit 100 miles today), but a rattle has started in the area of the armrest/passenger seat. It really sounds more like the seat han the armrest.

People have talked at length about the squeaky drivers seat, but has anyone experienced a rattling passenger seat?

Other than this, I'm loving the car! WAY better than my RSX!
Actually upon further investigation, it sounds like its coming from the seat belt release mechanism on the passenger side (by the center console). Any tips?
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 12:35 AM
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1250 miles on my 2006 TSX and checking in with the seat creaking issue. I was hoping someone would have posted a TSB in this thread. Sigh. I have the windshield creak too. Waiting to bring this up at the first oil change in about 800 miles.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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I brought my TSX in today to get the creak/squeek fixed. I posted this on the RBP thread but this is what they did:

"Repaired and lubed seat track, base and side mount. Operational normal, noise gone."

It is gone, time will tell if it is temporary or not.



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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by excited
I brought my TSX in today to get the creak/squeek fixed. I posted this on the RBP thread but this is what they did:

"Repaired and lubed seat track, base and side mount. Operational normal, noise gone."

It is gone, time will tell if it is temporary or not.



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Trust me when I say it will be back! That's what they did to mine and about 3 weeks later it's back stronger than ever...They did call today and they rails are back in stock. I'm having mine swapped in the morning...
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by shawnypark
It's really annoying. I have brand new 06 TSX. I bought it about 2 weeks ago.
Maybe from a week ago, when I make a turn, my driver seat generate sounds like squeaking. I've tried to suck it up, but it's really annoying. Are there anybody having a same problem or tips for fix?
Thanks and Happy Holidays.
I have 3 week old 2006 tsx with seat noise also.
I just loosened and move the seat rails a bit , as suggested by someone here and all noise was gone. Apparentley the rails are not aligned right or something. When I moved just one rail, the noise was worse, so I knew that is where the noise was coming from. Try if folks, its wasy!
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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I'm having the same problem. It cropped up at about the 1000 mile point. I'm taking it in on Wednesday, and I'm going to print this thread and bring it along. I asked the service guy a nd he claimed he hadn't heard of any problems with the seat, so this should prove useful, besides helping make my case. I'll let you know how it goes Wednesday...
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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My service guy said he hadn't heard of the problem either. Should've printed the thread up for him too!
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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I just got my seat base replaced today. My service guy didn't even ask any questions when I went in last week, just said they'll order a new seat base for me. Got a postcard this week saying the part came in (don't know why they just didn't call me), went in this morning, and came out tonight with a new seat base. No squeak of any kind. Seat kind of feels more comfy too, but that might just be my head playing games.

They said that it took the guy 5 hours to change, cause mine was the first one they had to do, and didn't want to mess up anything. I know the seat base was changed for sure, cause i had some scratches from my boots on the plastic part around where the seat control is, but that entire plastic covering is clean new.

Hopefully the squeak will never come back. There was the part number for the base on the postcard that I got if anyone wants to know, but I left the card at work...
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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 12:10 AM
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I dont have any pictures, but believe me that it couldnt be simpler. Move the drivers seat as far forward as possible. Then, just carefully remove the plastic cover (pry it away easily from the sides; a little clip holds it in place on each side) at the rear end of the outboard seat rail (the one closest to the door) and you will see a single 9/16" bolt that holds the rail to the floor. Just loosen it. The rail appears to have some play in it when loosened. Push it as far as possible towards the outside door and retighten the nut as tightly as possible. Then pop the plastic cover back on. That totally eliminated the creaking from my seat; it may well return if there is some underlying fault with the rail, but maybe the added tension on the rail is enough to fix the problem permanently.

Thanks so much docray1, my drivers seat creak started at about 1500 miles. Tried your fix and it seems to have reduced it by 80% or so. I'll continue to monitor it in the meantime but way better than before.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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Thanks so much docray1, my drivers seat creak started at about 1500 miles. Tried your fix and it seems to have reduced it by 80% or so. I'll continue to monitor it in the meantime but way better than before.
David,

You are welcome; I am glad the 'fix' worked for you, too. Its great to be able to share these sorts of problems and fixes with other owners!
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Fixed mine too

Have an 06 WDP and noticed the creaking noises around 3000 miles. It got worse aound 4000 and at 4500 I discovered yor fix. Went out to the car, loosened the bolt closest to door, moved and retightened. Pushed on seat and noise was gone from that side, but still there on rail beside center console. Did the same on the other side. Went for a 20 minute drive around corners and such and can say I HAVE NO MORE CREAKING. Will it come back? We will have to wait and see. All in all took less than 3 minutes for each side. THANKS.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mobidutch
Weeeell guess what. It's baaaaaaaack! Dealer replaced entire motorized bottom half of the seat about a month ago. It's been rock solid since (granted, I was gone for 75% of that time). Anyway, I drove my car earlier this morning and there was no squeak whatsoever. Got in an hour ago, and I must have gained like 200 pounds since this morning, because my seat was creaking and moaning as it if was about to die in severe pain. Guess I'll be calling the dealer again..
TRY docray1's fix, it worked for my 06
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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UPDATE - Unfortunately docray1's fix was short lived as the creaking came back. I've been moving the left rail around a bit and tightening it down but still getting some creaks. Pretty annoying as I hate going to the local dealership.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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I just printed out this whole thread - muchos pages - and am taking it to the dealer tomorrow (Wed). Hopefully it will prove useful. Stay tuned.....
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by David Muny
UPDATE - Unfortunately docray1's fix was short lived as the creaking came back. I've been moving the left rail around a bit and tightening it down but still getting some creaks. Pretty annoying as I hate going to the local dealership.
David,

Sorry to hear the noise is back; mine has stayed quiet now for nearly 3 weeks. Keep us updated if you find a more permanent fix.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Seat Fixed Using docray1 Method

Thank you to docray1 (Post #75) for posting his fix. I used his method last night and the creaking noise has been eliminated! Having recently purchased my '06 TSX after 4 years of problem-free ownership of a 2002 TL, I was alarmed to have to take the vehicle in for service so soon because of the seat noise problem. I mentioned this on the Product Quality Survey from Acura and await their response. Apart from this minor annoyance I really love this car! My impressions of it are posted on if you are interested. /forums/showthread.php?t=66129

Thanks again! Hopefully the problem has been rectified permanently.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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Taking mine back in to the dealer on Monday for a second try. I love this car, but that creak is loud enough to really take the fun out of it. This blows.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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Spoke too soon. Went for a drive at lunch and the squeak is back!! Taking it in to the dealer tomorrow morning, along with a printout of this blog. Will post the outcome on Friday.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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My working theory is that the rails are not stiff enough and if they are installed in a manner which is slightly out of alignment then the inner, moving segment creaks against the fixed, lower rail. If the rails are in good alignment, all is quiet, but any deviance results in the creaking. I must have just gotten lucky with mine, but I've got to believe that most of the noises can at least be minimized. Perhaps adjusting the front side of the mounting rail might help?

I am going to try to find out if the replacement rails being provided by Acura are a different part; I have been told that they come from the Ohio factory. For our Japan-built cars this seems odd. Maybe the US built parts are from a different vendor or are of better quality (wouldnt that be something!)
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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docray1 - Did you try the same adjustment on the console (inside) rail as well? Maybe by adjusting both it will put extra tension on the mechanism.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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Fisher,

I didnt need to adjust the inside rail; mine didnt make any noise from that side at all. I was also wondering about that for some of the more difficult cases, though. It would be worth a try since it is so easy to do. When my seat made the noise I was able to replicate it by reaching under the seat from the drivers door and liffting up on the rail. This helps when experimenting with rail alignment so you dont have to keep road-testing the car, by the way.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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They kept my car overnight to replace the seat rail (and install the cargo net). They gave me a TL as a loaner. It's nice, but not all that much nicer than my TSX. They were also surprised at what was involved with installing the cargo net. And they found the print-out of this thread to be very helpful....
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by docray1
I dont have any pictures, but believe me that it couldnt be simpler. Move the drivers seat as far forward as possible. Then, just carefully remove the plastic cover (pry it away easily from the sides; a little clip holds it in place on each side) at the rear end of the outboard seat rail (the one closest to the door) and you will see a single 9/16" bolt that holds the rail to the floor. Just loosen it. The rail appears to have some play in it when loosened. Push it as far as possible towards the outside door and retighten the nut as tightly as possible. Then pop the plastic cover back on. That totally eliminated the creaking from my seat; it may well return if there is some underlying fault with the rail, but maybe the added tension on the rail is enough to fix the problem permanently.
this is probably true......cuz my squeak started after i move my seat forward and take out all my all season to clean them...
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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Just dropped my baby off at Downtown Acura. They said that because it is raining it is a slow day so they'll put all their resources into fixing the squeak. Also gave them a printout of this thread. Head mechanic drove me back to my office in my car and agreed that the problem is REAL. Will let you know the outcome this evening. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by docray1
I dont have any pictures, but believe me that it couldnt be simpler. Move the drivers seat as far forward as possible. Then, just carefully remove the plastic cover (pry it away easily from the sides; a little clip holds it in place on each side) at the rear end of the outboard seat rail (the one closest to the door) and you will see a single 9/16" bolt that holds the rail to the floor. Just loosen it. The rail appears to have some play in it when loosened. Push it as far as possible towards the outside door and retighten the nut as tightly as possible. Then pop the plastic cover back on. That totally eliminated the creaking from my seat; it may well return if there is some underlying fault with the rail, but maybe the added tension on the rail is enough to fix the problem permanently.
Nice post on the fix, but that bolt, whatever size it is, shouldn't be 9/16." It should be a metric size. I'm sure the 9/16" will work but there's always the risk of stripping.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by docray1
I dont have any pictures, but believe me that it couldnt be simpler. Move the drivers seat as far forward as possible. Then, just carefully remove the plastic cover (pry it away easily from the sides; a little clip holds it in place on each side) at the rear end of the outboard seat rail (the one closest to the door) and you will see a single 9/16" bolt that holds the rail to the floor. Just loosen it. The rail appears to have some play in it when loosened. Push it as far as possible towards the outside door and retighten the nut as tightly as possible. Then pop the plastic cover back on. That totally eliminated the creaking from my seat; it may well return if there is some underlying fault with the rail, but maybe the added tension on the rail is enough to fix the problem permanently.
Nice post on the fix, but that bolt, whatever size it is, shouldn't be 9/16." It should be a metric size. I'm sure the 9/16" will work but there's always the risk of stripping.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Just picked up my car from the dealer. They removed and re-installed the seat. Apparently they lubricated the mechanism and installed some foam tape and tightened everything. No squeaking was apparent on the drive back to my office so hopefully it has been permanently fixed. Time will tell!
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by waTSX
Nice post on the fix, but that bolt, whatever size it is, shouldn't be 9/16." It should be a metric size. I'm sure the 9/16" will work but there's always the risk of stripping.
The metrics wouldnt fit mine. It is definitely 9/16" in my car. I thought exactly as you did at first and was surprised, but that is the case, at least for me.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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The dealer left me a message today that they'd ordered new rails and needed to keep the car another day. That means I get to drive the TL loaner car another day. It's definitely nicer and faster, but I'm not sure I'd take one over the TSX as I like the latter's smaller size a bit better. A friend who used to work at this dealership said their strategy was to use the next model up as a loaner to give the customer a de facto extended test drive. I'm not complaining, since many other dealers wouldn't provide a loaner at all....
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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Okay the new seat track was definitely an improvement but not the complete answer. No noise for about a week. However, I'm starting to notice a faint noise when turning left - although it's very diminished from before the fix. If it stays at this level I can cope until Acura comes out with the real fix. The dealership says still no bulletin from Acura.
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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Mine actually started creaking again a bit when stopping this morning. Previously, it had occured when turning left. This time, I loosened the bolts at the front of the seat rails on their inboard and outboard sides and pushed the rails as far to the outside as possible. Again, my noises are gone. I have to believe they will reoccur though. It clearly is an issue of the seat rails not being stiff enough or being improperly aligned. It is likely going to take rails of a new, thicker steel to exact a permanent fix, I think. Hopefully, Acura is listening!
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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The dealership called today and said that the rail(s) was on backorder and they'd call when it comes. So I went to get my car and was somewhat amused to note that the charge for installing the cargo net was $130 !

Fortunately, I didn't have to pay that since I got it when I bought the car. Since it was out of stock, they weren't able to install it at the time I got the car, so I had to wait. However, there's NO way I'd pay that sort of money for a damn cargo net! To say that's a bit excessive is definitely an understatment.....
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Squeaky drivers seat showed up at 600 miles this weekend. Am going to try and holdout until first maintenance to get it fixed unless it drives me crazy first!
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 05:48 AM
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I left my car at the dealer last night - the seat rails came in. It should be ready today, although I'm not sure I'll be able to get it. This time I got an '05 TSX loaner. The differences are fairly noticeable - I'm glad I held out for the '06, although the seat in the loaner doesn't creak....
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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JohnnyCNote - Apart from the squeaking, what changes (dynamic - not equipment) did you notice? I drove a 2005 a long time before getting my 2006 so it was difficult to make a comparison. Incidentally, my seat squeaks were repaired last week at the dealer and, so far, haven't returned.
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 06:55 AM
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Okay the new seat track was definitely an improvement but not the complete answer. No noise for about a week. However, I'm starting to notice a faint noise when turning left - although it's very diminished from before the fix. If it stays at this level I can cope until Acura comes out with the real fix. The dealership says still no bulletin from Acura.
Two weeks after rails were replaced the creaking is coming back in my 06 as well. This is really getting old having to take the car back in again and again for this particular problem

I never had one problem with my 05-Other than it was a 5AT and had no NAVI
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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I have to believe the rails are defective; they probably are not stiff enough and exhibit enough flex so that the inner, movable segment creaks along the outer part. Until a newer, stiffer design is available I think this will be a recurring problem that can be lessened by adjusting the mounting points to apply more tension to the rails. It has worked well for me, anyway.
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Took mine back in to the dealer this morning. After replacing the entire seat last time, this time they backed out, and don't want to mess with it until Acura issues a service bulletin. Apparently only 7 people have called in seat issues, with only 1 describing the exact same problem.

This blows. Don't know about you guys, but in my case the creak is really loud and very pervasive. If I so much as wiggle in my seat, or steer the car slightly left or right, it creaks.

When I produce the creak manually by pushing sideways on the seat from outside the car, it doesn't sound to me like the noise is coming from the rails though, but more from somewhere under the botton seat pad.

BTW...I was a bit surprised by the "loose assembly" of the plastic parts around the side...I can easily make them snap out of place. Same for the bottom seat pad, I can easily lift up an entire corner. There's these little white plastic "hooks" attached to the seat cover that look like they are supposed to grab on to something to hold the pad in place, but they're just hanging loose. Seems wrong...
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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after a month (1500 miles), i started experiencing the dreaded creak as well -
exactly as some of you describe: on turning, going up/down inclines, even going
over bumps. i took the car to the dealer on monday and was told i was the first person to complain about this?!

in any case, all they did was "remove track bolts, seat bolts, applied shin-etzu grease to reduce noise". and amazingly,
the noise is gone (for now).

i just don't want the creak to come back; it is very, very annoying!!!
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