jiseboogie

I've been lurking around here for about three months and finally pulled the trigger tonight. Got a ASM automatic with ebony interior for 25655 including, wheel locks, trunk tray, and splash guards. Purchased at Power Acura in Torrance, CA. With tax, title, etc came out to 28087 otd. Wanted the manual but since my car was wrecked and considered a total loss last week i could go another month without a car. Thanks for all the great info.

Jeff The Pianist

this is what i paid for my car...2006, TSX, Navi, 5AT
Car: $26,733.60
Accessories (mud guards, wheel locks, car cover, spoiler): $838.26
Tax: ~$2600

Grand Total: $30,171

IrishT

My final negotiated price was $27,300 at Spitzer, before anything taxes or fees. Tax was 6%, tags were $100. All other fees were waived. All accessory costs were waived.

Todd

Slashdotted

You got a good deal, congratulations!

Mockenrue

Yeah, Pittsburgh appears to be pretty rough (I bought from Spitzer as well). I probably could have done better if I had more time, but my previous car's transmission was messed up and I was on borrowed time - I couldn't even put it in park and you had to start it in neutral. Given that, I was pretty happy with the trade. After a lot of negotiation and time (calling wholesalers), they ended up giving more than blue book "good", which was better than I expected given the condition. I got less movement on the TSX price... I think MSRP for my CGP AT with Navi was $30,500 (including destination), and they came down to $29,200 (with protection package thrown in). They *claimed* they were taking a $500 loss on the trade, so I like to think of my price as $28,700 + TTL. Yours was non-navi, right? Sounds like we got similar deals. Not like California...

Chris

rza49311

iTrader: (1)

I posted my price with the car pics but here's a breakdown of what i paid.
06 ASM 6spd w/ Navi, wheel locks and splash guards

Car Price = $28,390
Dealer Fee = $399
Tax, Tags & Title = $969.95

OTD Total = $29,758.95

jiseboogie

You know what? I suspect I would enjoy the ride of my new car a lot better if my asshole wasn't still bleeding from the CA sales tax.

Mockenrue

What is the California sales tax? I konw I had to pay 7% and that's in the seller's market here in Pittsburgh. There's only one dealer close to where I live, and there is very little TSX stock around here (and therefore, not that much room for dealing). I got one of the most common combinations (CGP, Ebony, 5 AT, Navi) and they had to get it from Maryland.

Chris

kolodzie240

I just picked up a 2006 with 2,500 miles on it for 26,125 after tax and tags! Is that a deal?

rza49311

iTrader: (1)

how bout tell us what all you got for 26,125

6spd or auto? navi ?

Apexlvr

Bought 04/30/06

'06, 11 Miles on ODO, Milano Red/Parch Sportronic/Auto Non-Nav

$500 over Invoice --$26,500(includes Tags/Registration) + Tax

I'm so happy w/ my purchase after looking for months at different vehicles. . .

Slashdotted

8.5% in San Francisco, rumored to go up to 8.75% in December.

kolodzie240

Sorry 2006 6 speed no Navi
What do you think

Jeff The Pianist

no one wants to common on my price...

Ronin317

My comment would be that it sounds like a good deal.

mokiavelli

Jeff, I am not too aware on prices for accessories but that is a great price on a Navi car. Which dealer did you get it from?

mokiavelli

The only bad thing is the mileage on it. It's ahrd to know how people drove those 2,500 miles.

It might not be a bad deal, considering you probably paid about 23.5-24k before tax and fees. A brand new would go for about 25.5k before tax and fees.

Jeff The Pianist

haha...sorry for the spellings. I got it from Keyes Acura!

Ronin317

25.5? That is the "best case scenario" for a west coast deal, where there are a few more dealers in any given area and more competition. As mentioned above...East Coast dealers are simply not dealing on these cars as much as the west coast dealers are. So 25.5 is more of an opinion rather than actual reality...

lucid-dream

OK, I got an offer yesterday for the following:

2006 TSX, ABP, Auto, Navi
Accessories: Spoiler, Wheellocks, Trunk Tray, Splash Gaurds, Cargo Net

Offer: $29,200 for above + $125 document fee= $29,325 before TTL.

Does this sound like a good deal? I countered with $29,000 but they would not go any lower. I am on the fence whether to go ahead or not.

Please let me know.
Thanks!

jwhite4

I'm not sure I'd say that. I live in Philadelphia, and there are at least 8 Acura dealers within 50 miles. When I bought my 5AT non-nav 06 TSX last month, I got the car for $25777 (though the dealer made some money on the accessories). By comparison, while I was doing some research out in Las Vegas a month ago, the dealership out there is the only one within 160 miles. I'm not sure what discount (if any) they were selling the cars for, and every accessory was at least double the MSRP.

Jeff

ninjamyst

what about removing some of hte accessories to lower the price?

lucid-dream

Yes, that is my next option. i wanted first to understand if the price that they are offering (with the accessories) is reasonable.

Mockenrue

I just looked up average bying price data for the TSX on edmunds.com. Apparently, they calculate it by pulling retail sales numbers from various geographic areas. Obviously the posts we see here are not indicative of the averages. According to their True Market Value "what others are paying", my car (2006 Carbon Gray Pearl 5A w/Navi) sells for $29,625 here in Pittsburgh (includes destination charge but not tax or any other fees). LA and SF were only a little cheaper at $29,514. There must be a lot of dealerships out there that don't move at all and still sell 'em. I guess those people don't want to post here. Either that or the Internet crowd has shrewd negotiators!

Ronin317

Bingo. Competition.

Philly, eh? How about them cryers, I mean Flyers? They choke every year like a Briggs & Stratton Lawnmower engine.

jwhite4

At least we weren't expected to win the series. Can't say that about Detroit, best team in the league (based on total points) lost to the 8th seeded team that hadn't be in (or won) a playoff series in the last 8 years.

Was really hoping Calgary would have won in the West, and Montreal in the East, getting down to an all-Canadien final 4. Would have been interesting.

For all the pricing information, I wonder if maybe those that don't have as many dealers around them are the ones that need to do more research on invoice price, holdbacks, etc, in hopes of getting a good price. I didn't bother doing that for my purchase, because I figured dealers competing against each other would give me a decent price.

Jeff

bradykp

Yeah, but how many teams do you know that beat a country? (Broadsreet Bullies beat Russia in the 70s!)

bradykp

overall looks like a good deal, basically, seems like they made up for the discount on the car with accessories. so you both made out well. thats about what i paid, except we didnt get the car cover, mud guard or spoiler, but did get the all season mats, trunk tray and cargo net

jalbert

'06 TSX 5 auto Carbon Gray/Ebony w/Nav for $27k including destination and dealership fees. Price was exclusive of ttl. $29,200 out the door w/ttl. Got it at keyes acura. Did the whole negotiation by email then walked into the dealership today and picked up my car. CA taxes suck.

ninjamyst

CA taxes suck but you got an awesome deal anyways! Congrats!! I paid $1k more than you did....damn Midwest....

juicygirljen

SORT OF RANDOM THOUGHT:
One thing I found funny about our salesman was that when he was "looking up prices" for the TSX, he whipped out this list that said in big, bold letters saying "CONFIDENTIAL INVOICE PRICES".. and he just left it on his desk for the world to see. (we ended up paying 28,100, he would not budge on the 100 dollars because of the cleaning fees or whatever) obviously those aren't the real invoice prices, but it was sure amusing. I think car sales people are great actors.. i especially love it when they walk away for 10 minutes to "negotiate prices with their managers".

btw.. picking up my PWP tomorrow at noon i'm so excited after 2+ weeks of waiting!!

SoCaliTrojan

congrats =) Be sure they clean it all off. I didn't have to pay for cleaning, but they didn't go the extra mile to making sure all the plastic was taken off (i had tidbits of plastic stuck inbetween cracks...I had to reach in with something to take them off)

juicygirljen

thank you so much! yep turns out they did take off the plastic, but the person who drove it back from the dealership left some scuff marks on the side of the seat! hmph! i had the dealer try to clean it off, and his face turned red from rubbing with a cloth, and unfortunately you can see it.

I LOVE THE CAR. I LOVE THE NAVI. I LOVE iT!!!

hockeymen

Does anyone have any info on pricing in Florida, specifically Tampa area, Miami/Ft. Lauderdale, or Orlando? I am visiting friends in all these areas and negotiating while I am there. Best offer so far is 29,500 + 499 dealer fee + TTL for AT/navi. I know this is about 1500 too high, and I haven't given them my best shot yet, but I want to know what to expect in FL. Plenty of info on Cali, Pittsburgh, and Chicago, but nothing down south. Any advice would be appreciated. I plan to start at 28,000 and go no higher than 28,800. Do you think this is in the ballpark?

bradykp

by default, the type of people who are on this message board (or any other for that matter), are going to be the deal seekers. we're the ones putting the most effort into the purchase, thus the ones getting the biggest discounts

think about this: for a lot of people that can afford this car, time is a valuable thing. i spent a lot of time contacting a few dealers, getting screwed by one, and then another few hours at the final dealer, negotiating back and forth between two before settling on a price.

all in all, let's say i spent 8-10 hours total (probably more than that though).

for some people, 1-2 grand just isn't worth that much of their personal time. so a lot of people will go in, negotiate as best they can at one location, and walk out with a purchased vehicle. lucky for us there are those people, so dealers can afford to move a few for volume at good deals for people like us.

jwhite4

[QUOTE=juicygirljen]SORT OF RANDOM THOUGHT:
One thing I found funny about our salesman was that when he was "looking up prices" for the TSX, he whipped out this list that said in big, bold letters saying "CONFIDENTIAL INVOICE PRICES".. and he just left it on his desk for the world to see. (we ended up paying 28,100, he would not budge on the 100 dollars because of the cleaning fees or whatever) obviously those aren't the real invoice prices...QUOTE]

From bradykp:

"lucky for us there are those people, so dealers can afford to move a few for volume at good deals for people like us."

I'm putting this together with another thread that mentioned that TSX (and TL) sales both set records for April. I'm not sure if this is the case, but one possibility is that besides the profit made on each individual sale, there could be quota bonuses. A dealership could earn some type of bonus if they sell maybe 30 TSX's in a month (assuming they have that many to sell), so in the big picture, selling a handful around cost, vs for a hefty profit, could be worthwhile. The dealership I bought my TSX from (in April) seemed fairly busy on the days I was there. It could be that the manager didn't have a problem approving the price I asked for, because he knew the sale would put them that much closer to a bonus.

Jeff

bradykp

[QUOTE=jwhite4]i am relatively positive that the amount they sell is definitely a performance metric that they get bonuses based on. Also, the salesman told me what they get for good reviews on the surveys, and it was not a small amount, but i cant remember (i think he said like $500-$1000 for a good review).

jwhite4

My salesperson told me that they only make out if basically every grade on the Acura phone survey was a 5. Maybe they (dealerships) expect their salespeople to get at least a 4, and they only get rewarded for above average work.

Jeff

BananaFusion

Try Jacksonville. I just got mine (today! ASM/Quartz auto with nav) for a tad over 28k plus the 500 dealer fee (30,500 out the door). I emailed pretty much everyone in central and north Florida, and all three of the dealerships I ended up trying to negotiate with had the fee and wouldn't budge on it. Jax was the cheapest quote by about $400, and I was amazed at what some of the dealerships were offering versus what the people on here are saying they are paying. The next lowest was the Regal Acura in Lakeland if I remember right. I did have one dealership quote me $29,500.

I had one dealer pull up the Edmunds TMV because I mentioned looking at prices online, and said I should be happy because his was below the $29,943 (!) that Edmunds had for the TMV. He didn't believe me when I said people were getting it for 28k.

And to join in on the discussion on dealer surveys, I had my sales guy tell me how important they were the other day when he told me he would hook me up with some stuff if I gave all 5's. The F&I guy also asked how I was going to rate them and that 5's were what they were hoping for. I think they were somewhat concerned because I didn't have the best experience... I wanted that specific color combination and when I called Thursday they said they could get it in within a day or two, which would work perfect with my schedule as I was going home for the semester from college. However, from what I can gather, they had trouble negotiating with the dealership that had the car, so it didn't come in until today (all the meanwhile telling me "Oh we'll have the VIN number tomorrow, I promise"). Then they said it'd come in this morning (I was then hoping to get home and have a late lunch once I got it) but didn't end up picking it up until almost 6 today.

For their credit though, they gave me a loaner TSX for the weekend until my car came in today, and they threw in some of the dealer accesories (splash guards, trunk tray, the usual). It was quite a hassle though as my apartment lease ended Monday, so I had to store all my crap in my girlfriends room for a night until I could drive it back to Tampa today.

Anyways, so far I absolutly love the car. This is my first car ever, as I needed to buy one since I'm graduating from grad school in December. It's been a very long 5 years of riding the bus to class everyday to say the least. My parents cut me off once I graduated high school, so I've lived on scholarships and fellowships which provide enough for tuition, food and rent, but not for things like car payments, insurance, and gas.

I've been looking for about 2 and a half months now, and cross shopped with a Camry XLE and Accord EX since it had to be below 30k, reliable, and loaded (which adding any sort of options to an A4 or IS250 put it quite a bit above 30K). Loved it since I first sat in it, and really loved it after I test drove, and been a lurker on here for about a month. Still got the new buyer's excitement, hence the long post

bjtexer

i've got mine 0 mile 05 pwp for $ 27,500 out the door... $ 30,000 for an 06...... ???? that's tooo much