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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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For REAL? Honda makes Acuras

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For REAL? Honda makes Acuras?!
Come on you knew this already, you are messing around with me
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Come on you knew this already, you are messing around with me
he's just making attempt to up his post count
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Beoshingus
This thread would only be 10 pages long if it weren't for Matelot and Joerockt posting messages that say "READ THE MESSAGES."
True, but the thread would probably be only be 8 pages long if people didnt ask questions that have been asked and answered already
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GRich4u
Where is the fix?? or what page?? out of 33 pages it will take forever to find. Come on matelot Cholo, where is it.
:surrender
You swear you at least read bysin's posts up to page 10 ?

Read the following posts:
#322
#337

Now my only question is why the delay?? When I turn the car on before the pic shows up instantly. The file is only 111KB, so its not that big. Did we get a fix for this and I missed it?
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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whoa whoa...what is a bysin?
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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... totally joking
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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Thumbs up

bysin thanks

donation sent hopefully it will help you get a burner
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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for all the other mac geeks out there like me =) here's mine...

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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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I like it, but it's a lot smaller than it needs to be. I may make a similar OS X loading screen but at the 480x234 resolution and adjusted for the non-square pixels.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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hmmm... i have the psd... i made it 480x234... but now it comes out as 448x218...

::EDIT:: Okay, I fixed it now... I think it's better
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Nice! That will definitely confuse a few passengers
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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Let's replace all the maps with those from keyhole......
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by zazen721
for all the other mac geeks out there like me =) here's mine...

cool. Yours is not Tiger is it ?
Do you know how the Tiger version of OSX boot looks like ?
I'd love to have a Tiger version if you can fake one.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 01:05 AM
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anyways, i had great hopes on installin windows media player and etc, but i guess the dream isn't coming true..
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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Unhappy Nag Modification isn't supported

My 04 MDX uses BN2HH110.BIN. I'm using DumpNavi.exe Version 1.5 (according to the "about" screen). I am running it against an unmodified BIN file. It insists that Nag modifications aren't supported for my car. I have been successful in modifying the boot image, but not the nag screen.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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Bysin, i ask you a simple favor. To make it easier for myself, and probably anyone new to this thread who has problems finding this stuff in the threads to post on your website, the picture requirements for the *.BMP file. Like File size, color, pixels,bit rate or anything that would help us noob's out. I as well as many of us would greatly appreciate it.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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480x234
273 colors
8-bit BMP
No larger than 113,068 bytes

You can make the image smaller than 480x234 pixels, or with less than 273 colors, if needed.

The image must also be adjusted for non-square pixels, as originally posted by Arcticcl9:

...you'll need to "compensate" for the aspect ratio of the image at 480 x 234. To help you guys make an image that is not stretched out of shape, first create an image that has a 16:9 aspect ratio. Then increase the width of the image by 1.154 (115.4%) while leaving the height the same, then downsample it to fit in 480 x 234, 8 bit indexed color and you will have an image that would work for the background.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel1113
480x234
273 colors
8-bit BMP
No larger than 113,068 bytes
You can make the image smaller than 480x234 pixels, or with less than 273 colors, if needed.
The image must also be adjusted for non-square pixels, as originally posted by Arcticcl9:

ummm sure about that ???
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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Curses! So much for putting an end to that debate...

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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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For Accord Owners

Ok, I have a Honda Accord with Navi. I used Bysin's GUI program and was able to modify my startup and remove the NAG screen, but here are a few things that were not on the money so to speak:

1. Make a backup of the BIN you copy from your DVD, once modified you will not be able to modify it again as the GUI program will state the BIN is not supported or something to that effect.

2. When they say RUN they mean it!!! I would help to have two people, one to load the new created disc and one by the Navi. to hit load disc.

3. I did NOT have to close the cover or open the cover on the DVD Nav in the trunk, to be honest I would not have had time.

Maybe their are a few different ways to update and Bysin had the best luck the way he stated in the readme file.

Hope this helps some people with issues. Again I am NOT saying anything that anyone has said is wrong, just what I have tested and seen.

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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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I tried to remove the nag in my 04 Accord. No luck. I do have the Matrix though!
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
I tried to remove the nag in my 04 Accord. No luck. I do have the Matrix though!
Someone said its not possible, but it would be the sickest thing in the world if we could get the Matrix with the scrolling motion on the Nav.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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I tried to remove the nag in my 04 Accord

Originally Posted by El Kabong
I tried to remove the nag in my 04 Accord. No luck. I do have the Matrix though!
Well mine is an 05 but I noticed that if you put the created disc in and have someone else in the car ready to hit the load disc botton on the screen and do NOT close the door on the dvd in the trunk that it will work to update and remove the nag and put the photo that you have modified in.

My first few times around I could not get it to work and then only the photo would show up with the nag screen. I finally figured out how to change what bysin had said to work for my car. Maybe it was dumb luck or maybe accords have to be hacked differently.

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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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Someone said its not possible

Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Someone said its not possible, but it would be the sickest thing in the world if we could get the Matrix with the scrolling motion on the Nav.
I would have to agree, it would be great if the lines would move, in order for that to happen we would need the BIN to take a gif file. To my knowledge only gif photos can be made to look like they are moving.

BTW: Only at night do you see how cool the photo is, during daytime it is to dark, thinking about changing it to something different.

Also my dealer has seen the screen, (by accident) and wanted to know if they could start selling accords with the hook of being able to personalize your screen. Had to tell him not yet, that is was a hack.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by roger678
Well mine is an 05 but I noticed that if you put the created disc in and have someone else in the car ready to hit the load disc botton on the screen and do NOT close the door on the dvd in the trunk that it will work to update and remove the nag and put the photo that you have modified in.

My first few times around I could not get it to work and then only the photo would show up with the nag screen. I finally figured out how to change what bysin had said to work for my car. Maybe it was dumb luck or maybe accords have to be hacked differently.

Thanks for the advice. My problemo pops up when I try to alter the BIN file. I get a warning that my BIN isn't supported and the Okay Hack can't be done. Just to see I plan to try your idea anyhow. Of course I have to reburn the CDR to get a newer date code otherwise it won't update.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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I would pay $$$ to anyone who could figure out how to help me get rid of the nag screen. Anyone live near Irvine, CA?????
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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I would pay $$$ to anyone who could figure out how to help me get rid of the nag screen. Anyone live near Irvine, CA?????
dont hold your breath.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Did bysin get grounded
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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With the money donated he is probably out shopping for a new CD burner..

or a new Plasma TV

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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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Things always look the darkest just before they go completely black.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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does anyone know if this will work on 2002 Tl navi ?

If so how?

I'm dizzy from reading this thread. And can't seem to find the bin files or
the setup screen on my tl.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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ok this thread is so long, so i want to know if you can CUSTOMIZE the NAG screen?
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JATTerbot 0.9
ok this thread is so long, so i want to know if you can CUSTOMIZE the NAG screen?
FWIW, I attempted to do this. I extracted navi.exe, carefully edited the nag screen text with a hex editor, and reinserted the navi.exe into the bin with bysin's cmdline tool. I even had to blank out (with 0x20) some of the french text so that the compressed size of navi.exe wasn't bigger than the original. Unfortunately, the text did not change when I reflashed the new bin (but the back.bmp that I did at the same time did, so I know the bin flash succeeded). I'm wondering if there is a checksum or something in navi.exe somewhere that I need to update. I'm curious where the unmodified navi.exe came from tho.. did the navi unit detect a corrupt (bad checksum) navi.exe and recopy a version from rom or from a second area of flash or something?
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Post 2nd gen TL/CL owners

For all of you who are wondering if this will work on the 2nd gen CL/TL navi, it will not ...

The 2nd gens use a completely different architecture (NEC V831) -- and while its possible that a similar thing could be done with those units, it will be much more difficult (since the V83x architecure is much less documented than the SH4, not to mention it was much less popular commercially)

Here's a picture of the 2nd gen circuit board, if you're still not convinced...

2nd Gen Navi Circuit Picture

_Larry...
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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What, no hard drive?
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bysin
Yeah, the reason for that is because I use overwrite the old file block's in the ROM. In a future version I could split the remaining part of the file that doesnt fit in the old block into a new linked one.
I have already done it several monthes ago.
But I don't see useful aplication for this feature until we will be able to write our own code.
I think you could be the guy I am looking for. Most visitors of this forum know nothing about progamming, so nobody could help me.

What I have at this moment.

I can do the same things with *.bin that you can do and even more.

I disassembled almost completely Windows CE kernel and most of drivers.

I am implementing SH-4 emulator and trying to simulate devices. It is a very hard work but I have a some progress: Windows CE is loaded, start processes, initializes drivers. Currently it stops when it tries to work with flash (drf.dll). I stuck on it because I have know idea how it should work. I am waiting for inspiration to break through it.

If you intresting in combining our forces you will be wellcome.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 05:42 AM
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I hate this innovation in new forum tha I can edit my own message!
I am not fluent in English and it is difficult to me to write everything at once.

I just want to add that I can resize blocks. My tool does it. But I still think that it is dangerous and useless feature for now.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by zax123
Over on the TL forums, a few people have tried to burn a copy of the DVD (it's a DVD-9 dual layer) and have been unsuccesful. Unfortunately, to remove map data and have fancy things that are more runtime going on, we'd have to LEAVE our burned DVD in the drive and they haven't been succesful in doing that. If someone has a method to do it, please let me know. Up to now, we weren't able to make backups of the Navi disc as a permanent replacement. Uploading the BIN file which stays in the navi system's ROM isn't a problem cuz the disc doesn't need to stay in.
I don't think it is necessarily.
You can buy 512M or even 1G CF card and PC Card<->CF adapter.
So the space is not a problem.
The real problems:
- How to start your own code.
- How to test it before try it on real navi.

I am working on it but it is very complex problems. Ok, starting some exe is not a problem but we don't have a keyboard. So we have to create our own dialogs and somehow bind it on some buttons.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bysin
I was working on DumpNAVI to extract the modules in the BIN (as of right now it just extracted the files, not the modules)...
Hm. My fisrst version of tool that was released to public can do it. IDA accept those modules without problems.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bysin
Well anyway, it extracted a file called "JitDbgr.EXE", which seems like a simple debugger for the Honda/Acura navigation system. It turns out, the signature of this program is "MITSUBISHI Electronic Corporation". Why is honda using a mitsubishi product in my car?
Renesas was created by Hitachi and Mitsubishi.
I think you understand what it means.
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