2006 TSX Info...
08-01-2005, 09:15 AM
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I think the new SAE numbers are confusing people quite a bit. This press release also listed the ......
06' TL = 258 HP (SAE)
06' RL = 290 HP (SAE)
I would guess the 04' and 05' models would be judged at 190 HP from the looks of this, possibly less.
This means that the jump in HP for 2006 was at least 15 HP, not too bad. Also read that they actually increased the size of the intake valves!
06' TL = 258 HP (SAE)
06' RL = 290 HP (SAE)
I would guess the 04' and 05' models would be judged at 190 HP from the looks of this, possibly less.
This means that the jump in HP for 2006 was at least 15 HP, not too bad. Also read that they actually increased the size of the intake valves!
08-01-2005, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bmerc89
"For the 2006 model year, all Acura horsepower and torque specifications have been updated to reflect revised Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) J1349 (Rev 8/04) net calculations that went into effect in January of 2005. These new calculations reflect a number of significant changes in the way horsepower and torque are measured and may cause SAE net horsepower and torque totals published in 2006 media materials to differ from the figures published in previous years. To avoid confusion, all 2006 Acura press materials will specify “SAE net (Rev 8/04”) after all horsepower and torque figures to denote adherence to the new standards."
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=384913
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=384913
08-01-2005, 09:31 AM
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thats it! i'm gonna fill up my gas tank and drive my car straight into the Honda headquarters yelling praise allah you bishes!
I heard it was gonna have 240hp from the salesman at acura. But we all know what kind of retards they are. I'm sure anything the 06 has, we will be able to put on our 04s and 05s so i'm not too worried.
I heard it was gonna have 240hp from the salesman at acura. But we all know what kind of retards they are. I'm sure anything the 06 has, we will be able to put on our 04s and 05s so i'm not too worried.
08-01-2005, 09:33 AM
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damn! this sucks. i don't mind them modifying the interior but not all of these:
Restyled hood and grille
Redesigned headlights and combination taillights
Redesigned front and rear bumpers
Fog lamps are integrated into the lower bumper
i don't like that one bit because it's gonna make our current model look kinda outdated ( a bit maybe?) when the 06 comes out.
oh well
Restyled hood and grille
Redesigned headlights and combination taillights
Redesigned front and rear bumpers
Fog lamps are integrated into the lower bumper
i don't like that one bit because it's gonna make our current model look kinda outdated ( a bit maybe?) when the 06 comes out.
oh well
08-01-2005, 09:56 AM
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For people who think the power only went up 5HP, you need to be aware they are measuring HP a different way now. To put things in perspective, there used to be a 70HP difference between the TL and TSX and now with the upgrades to the 2006 engine that difference is only 53HP. Lookin at it that way it looks more like a more substantial 17HP increase.
All that being said, what I am MOST excited about is the memory setting for the drivers seat!!! I'm so glad I waited for the 2006. Oh, the the aux input is nice too.
All that being said, what I am MOST excited about is the memory setting for the drivers seat!!! I'm so glad I waited for the 2006. Oh, the the aux input is nice too.
08-01-2005, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bigwilliestyle
Now when they crack you'll have to replace the entire bumper!
Good point. I'm already upset and haven't seen any pics yet. Some ppl may be right that we might be able to put the 06 parts on the 05- 04's. Still, with the hood, grill AND light changes, I'd bet they wouldn't be the same fit.
08-01-2005, 10:27 AM
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Oh well, I'm glad I have the 05 at a time when Acura was making deals. Even though there is a load of new stuff, the possible price increase + requisite stealership price gouge would make me think twice about buying an 06. Its likely I would have had to wait until next summer here in SoCal to get a good deal. No thanks.
...Now how do I make up 15+ horses??
...Now how do I make up 15+ horses??
08-01-2005, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CSpaR
Not sure about the new price. The changes from 04 to 05 were small, yet good. Heated mirrors, power passenger seat, lighted wheel buttons, etc.. for $500 more. Ofcourse, there are alot more 06 changes. I'd bet it's going to put it around $30k.
I'd venture to guess about a $500 increase. The real increase will be higher since dealers will not be discounting as much as the 05s at the begining of the MY.
I still see TSXs going for $26-27K by Dec. With agressive pricing the IS might hurt TSX sales. Acura had to make these changes to keep up with the competition.
08-01-2005, 10:57 AM
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By the way, to some of the points about this being an early redesign...
If you ignore the North American market by itself, the general TSX platform (including the Euro Accord) has been around for a few years.
It could be argued that it's due.
Regardless, it sounds good on paper. I'd definitely would like the memory seats. Can't wait to see pics.
If you ignore the North American market by itself, the general TSX platform (including the Euro Accord) has been around for a few years.
It could be argued that it's due.
Regardless, it sounds good on paper. I'd definitely would like the memory seats. Can't wait to see pics.
08-01-2005, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by iamhomin
Aren't the fog lights in 2nd gen TL integrated as well? I didn't need to replace the whole bumper when the bottom left cracked.
08-01-2005, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bigwilliestyle
By the way, to some of the points about this being an early redesign...
If you ignore the North American market by itself, the general TSX platform (including the Euro Accord) has been around for a few years.
If you ignore the North American market by itself, the general TSX platform (including the Euro Accord) has been around for a few years.
The redesign was needed due to the competition. Acura has maybe finally learned the BMW roll out style - to keep up the sales you have to keep adding content and not leave some model get stale.
08-01-2005, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by biker
Why is this myth being repeated? The TSX is based on the EuroAccord platform that came out 1 month before the TSX. That's it - one month (3/03 vs 4/03).
The redesign was needed due to the competition. Acura has maybe finally learned the BMW roll out style - to keep up the sales you have to keep adding content and not leave some model get stale.
The redesign was needed due to the competition. Acura has maybe finally learned the BMW roll out style - to keep up the sales you have to keep adding content and not leave some model get stale.
08-01-2005, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
Oh well, I'm glad I have the 05 at a time when Acura was making deals. Even though there is a load of new stuff, the possible price increase + requisite stealership price gouge would make me think twice about buying an 06. Its likely I would have had to wait until next summer here in SoCal to get a good deal. No thanks.
...Now how do I make up 15+ horses??
I don't think I'll be upset unless Hondata figures out the '06 ECU before the '05!
08-01-2005, 12:34 PM
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I think if they did not recalculate HP using the new SAE specs, there would actually be a higher HP gain, probably 210ish hp.
I base this on the fact that the RL went down 10 hp and the TL went down 12 hp.
Oh yeah, need pics!
I base this on the fact that the RL went down 10 hp and the TL went down 12 hp.
Oh yeah, need pics!
08-01-2005, 12:41 PM
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I'm surprised I didn't see anything on there concerning a lower stance(suspension) on the car....
maybe they'll do that on the '07 MY cars.
08-01-2005, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bigwilliestyle
Now when they crack you'll have to replace the entire bumper!
however, i have a feeling it's gonna look nicer than the current model. just have to wait and see 
08-01-2005, 01:01 PM
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Can someone with electronics background speculate on the ability to add the new 06 hands free link to an 05 with Navi? That was the one feature in the TL that I actually wanted but didn't want to pay the jump to the TL for..
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08-01-2005, 01:12 PM
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This is why I started leasing instead of buying. I trade too often. I bought a first model year 2003 Toyota Matrix XRS. The next year they make all sorts of little changes I wish I would have had. I bought it 11/02 and traded it 5/05. I have my TSX for another 36 months (39 month lease). I figure I will be turning it in right when the 2009 TSX comes out which should be the second year of the redesigned car if Honda does the normal 4/5 year model life span. I am happy with my 2005 TSX W/Navi....just want the damn bluetooth...maybe its just an add on module and new DVD software to get it to work with my 05....if not....just 36 more months.
08-01-2005, 01:22 PM
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That HP bump might actually be pretty significant in terms of acceleration numbers.(I would call a couple tenths significant) Can't wait to see a dyno of the revised motor!
08-01-2005, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by iamhomin
Aren't the fog lights in 2nd gen TL integrated as well? I didn't need to replace the whole bumper when the bottom left cracked.
Almost every car has integrated fog lamps. Only cheappy honda makes add ons. Well now the TSX is integrated! Thank god! Now it wont crack at all. The cheappy add on ones do tho.
08-01-2005, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TinkySD
That HP bump might actually be pretty significant in terms of acceleration numbers.(I would call a couple tenths significant) Can't wait to see a dyno of the revised motor!
08-01-2005, 01:36 PM
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Bluetooth support !!! 
Exactly what I was waiting for.
But this comment about "sporty" styling changes have me worried, don't want it to start looking like a souped-up car.
Any guesses about what the new MSRP might be? I really wonder if Acura is going to risk crossing the 30k threshold for the Navi. And to those of you that bought the '05 model when it was released last year, did the dealers back then given any discounts at all, or did you pretty much have to pay sticker?
Exactly what I was waiting for.
But this comment about "sporty" styling changes have me worried, don't want it to start looking like a souped-up car.
Any guesses about what the new MSRP might be? I really wonder if Acura is going to risk crossing the 30k threshold for the Navi. And to those of you that bought the '05 model when it was released last year, did the dealers back then given any discounts at all, or did you pretty much have to pay sticker?
08-01-2005, 01:56 PM
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Bluetooth support !!!
Exactly what I was waiting for.
But this comment about "sporty" styling changes have me worried, don't want it to start looking like a souped-up car.
Any guesses about what the new MSRP might be? I really wonder if Acura is going to risk crossing the 30k threshold for the Navi. And to those of you that bought the '05 model when it was released last year, did the dealers back then given any discounts at all, or did you pretty much have to pay sticker?
Exactly what I was waiting for.
But this comment about "sporty" styling changes have me worried, don't want it to start looking like a souped-up car.
Any guesses about what the new MSRP might be? I really wonder if Acura is going to risk crossing the 30k threshold for the Navi. And to those of you that bought the '05 model when it was released last year, did the dealers back then given any discounts at all, or did you pretty much have to pay sticker?
08-01-2005, 02:02 PM
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I don't think I'll be upset unless Hondata figures out the '06 ECU before the '05!
Besides, is this really a competition? Can't be angry at honda.... if and when I replace the TSX, I'm sure it'll be better than the 06 TSX. That's life.
08-01-2005, 02:04 PM
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Anybody think that the hondata reflash will be obsolete? I mean, the changes in the 06 is much more than just a ECU reflash, it has higher lift, faster timing, better breaking intake and exhaust. I wonder if Hondata will invest any time and money into the R&D of 06 TSX
08-01-2005, 02:07 PM
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Things always improve, so get over it.
Japan or Europe Honda site may provide some earlier updates?
This is the Japan site, of TSX (or Accord) http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/
And this actually says "4WD": http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/a...e-p/index.html
Too bad I can't read Japanese.
Japan or Europe Honda site may provide some earlier updates?
This is the Japan site, of TSX (or Accord) http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/
And this actually says "4WD": http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/a...e-p/index.html
Too bad I can't read Japanese.
08-01-2005, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Considering they raised the msrp $500 for lighted steering controls, power pass seat, and heated mirrors, i'd say the navi msrp will be over 30K. Navi msrp is at 29,760 right now. I'm guessing all these additions will raise it more than $240.
And for the person who was told no 6MT, it is listed.
08-01-2005, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TMQ
Things always improve, so get over it.
Japan or Europe Honda site may provide some earlier updates?
This is the Japan site, of TSX (or Accord) http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/
And this actually says "4WD": http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/a...e-p/index.html
Too bad I can't read Japanese.
Japan or Europe Honda site may provide some earlier updates?
This is the Japan site, of TSX (or Accord) http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/
And this actually says "4WD": http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/a...e-p/index.html
Too bad I can't read Japanese.
Use Google to translate the site:
http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools
