InfernoTLS

Gentlemen,

The GREATEST racing movie of all time (Le Mans, 1971, Steve McQueen) is FINALLY being released on DVD on April 29, 2003.

dvdplanet.com is taking pre-orders (even though there won't be a run, most likely) at a very good price:

Le Mans [DVD] $13.99 x 1 $13.99
Sub-total: $13.99
Tax: $0.00
US Postal Service Priority Mail or First Class (default): $2.50
TOTAL: $16.49

I have mine pre-ordered and it will be great on the 16:9 bigscreen!

Inferno

danny25

I've never seen that, I'll have to go rent it.

danny25

nice avatar chris

When you movin into the new place?

Bluesman

I hope none of you guys are driving this afternoon. 35 is a stand still.

mantis23

man.... my brother in law keeps begging me to get a 350Z... he's gonna get one this weekend so I can drive it around a bit.

I hope I don't fold.

suXor

Thanks

Quote:

When you movin into the new place?

Looks like closing around the 25th of March. Gonna have a house warming party and need ACL turn out!!

and Nissan owners....

DeezNutz

So, I've got 2h 20m for my commute home tonight. Anyone got me beat?

DeezNutz

Mantis, you're pha-real looking into making a change? If you really dig on it, would you check into the G35C? I've gotta look at a badazz G35C in my work parking lot every day. Black, black tint, big rimz and brembo brakes. It's reeeeaaally sweet.

mantis23

Here are my meet pics guys... If you need a _really_ big pic of some, let me know and I'll post.
http://www.thefiresauce.com/Mantis/temp-meet/

mantis23

I left about 2 Hours Early, Chris...It took me an hour to travel what normally takes 20 mins. You've got me beat by a lnog shot.

mantis23

Yea Dan, If I asked him, I bet he could probably get a G35C home for a weekend too, but I hate to beg. I'd be happy with a 350 for a few hours.

And while its not a coupe, my sister does have a g35... I've had the chance to drive it around quite a bit, but its not the 6 spd.

Bluesman

Good Pics Mantis and lots of them. I hope none of you guys had to drive to work this mourning. I office at home so no problem. Looks like it may get worse tonight.

Now that you guys that put the ice box in have had time to drive a little, what does your butt dyno tel you?

Bluesman

I'd hate for you to have to start hangin with those Nissan guys.

DeezNutz

Nice pix, Mantis.

Alcon Laboratories is officially off today. Guess I'll make a nice big breakfast, and take a big ole... uh... nap. I'm still billing those fockers 8hrs though. It's not my fault they called the day off!

Later

DeezNutz

Bluesman, my butt's guessing that at some point in the HP/TQ curve I'm getting 10/8, maybe in the 12/10 range. It pulls *significantly* harder in certain rpms. Which is nice.

Dan

danny25

mantis, your bro in law is borrowing a Z? Those Nissan bastards wouldn't even let me test drive a used one, and he can borrow one for the weekend? You know you'll want to drive everywhere in it, so swing by Arlington and give me a ride. or a drive

danny25

hey, ice box guys... the guy in this thread is very impressed with his ice box. Thread. He disconnected his battery during the install, I wonder if that accounts for the incredible gains he's feeling.

danny25

mantis, how do you set up a pic directory like that?

DeezNutz

no offense to that guy, but i read that last night, and i think he's a *tad* overly excited for an air intake. there's no way it's gonna outperform headers.

danny25

I definately agree he seems a little too enthusiastic.

danny25

nice pics mantis... I like this one, you could prolly sell it as art.

mantis23

Danny, well, he manages a few dealerships around (not sure exactly what it is he does), but he has access to cars for alleged 'business trips'.

As far as the directory thing, its a server side parameter, if your school admin has allowed for directory browing, then you can post like that also. It looks like they have directory browing turned off. :/

suXor

Just a little ice....

DeezNutz

OK guys, as you know, I replaced my road lamps with the 2003 black plastic inserts last fall, and now that I've got the IceBox installed, it seems like it's a really good idea to drill out the back of the right insert (since they're fake air vents and actually closed in the back) to get more air flow into the intake tube reaching down into the fender. My concern is that I'm gonna have nothing between the air (and what's in it like water, dirt, bugs, etc) and the front of that tube if I do this. Since probably everyone in this DFW thread knows more about this subject than me , I thought I should ask your opinion.

So, what's your opinion?

Thanks,
Dan

InfernoTLS

Gentlemen,

I understand that some are saying the Ice Box is better than the headers. I tried to look at the thread, but the link didn't work for me. I hope I am not repeating what has alread been stated elsewhere, but here are my thoughts on the Ice Box vs. CT headers question:

The Ice Box is the same level of gain across the whole power band, where as the headers have a minimal increase until you get to 5800 RPM, after which you have huge gains.

The result of this is that you actually feel more pull from the Ice Box over the headers during typical driving conditions.

The facts show that the Ice Box outperformes the CT headers until you reach 6000 RPM.

Based on Comptech's dynos, the HP numbers are as follows (read the first number as the gain for the Ice Box, the second number as the gain for the CT headers, and the third number as the +/- advantage that the Ice Box has over the CT headers at a given RPM):

RPM Ice Box Headers Ice Box vs. headers +/-
------ --------- ---------- ------------------------------
2800 +6 -1 +7
3000 +7 +1 +6
3400 +8 +2 +6
4000 +10 +1 +9 advantage Ice Box
4400 +10 +5 +5
5000 +7 +5 +2
5400 +8 +3 +5
5800 +14 +13 +1
------ --------- ---------- -----------------------
6000 +14 +17 -3
6400 +12 +25 -13 advantage headers
6600 +13 +32 -19

These are gains over stock at each RPM as published by Comptech. The dynos:
CT Header Dyno

CT Ice Box Dyno

Comments?

Cheers, Inferno

DeezNutz

Any thoughts on how they would interact together? Can we safely assume that the HP gains would at least be added from the baseline curve?

I'm assuming the CT dynos are stock plus each component individually?

InfernoTLS

Actually, the CT dyno for the Ice Box is on a car with headers and exhaust. This is why we need another dyno day: Ruf and I have a good baseline set of "stock" and "headers only" dynos. We can add "Ice Box only" and "headers and Ice Box" dynos now.

My main point is that where the headers give you a hell of a lot of boost over the final 1,000 RPM, the Ice Box gives you an even boost over 4,000 RPM. They complement each other well.

InfernoTLS

I don't know how it is put together, but what I would do is drill out the one side except for a lip. To this lip, I would affix (with epoxy) a grill like what Danny has (heavy duty gutter wire). Before afixing, however, I would spraypaint the grill flat black with a Rust-o-leum primer (use multiple coats if possible). That will keep the big rocks and bugs out but still let the cool air in! Cheers, Inferno

DeezNutz

Yeah, that's why you and Ruf need to get on that!

CasperTL

DeezNutz,

There are two reasons you should not even need to worry.

A: The hole that you will be creating will not be big enough for something extreme to get into your engine.
B: The foam cover around the air filter adds extra protection with hardly any loss in air flow, so no dirt should be getting in there and if you go through a puddle 3 ft deep, then you MIGHT get water up there in which case the foam will help agains and that little resonator box may help as well.

Though I must say, adding a grill piece would be cool if it could be seen and if that is true, then I'd do it to both sides for a cleaner look.

My

Casper

danny25

Nutz, as long as the holes you drill aren't that big, nothing very large will be able to get up into the tube, like Casper said. I would just use a small bit and drill holes in the fake mesh where it looks like a hole should be. If you drill enough of them they will allow more air in because there's a lot of holes, but shouldn't let anything else in cause all the holes are small.
The gutter guard actually has holes in it about the same size as the fake holes in your insert, so I don't know if that would help.

danny25

My headers should be getting here Fri.!!!! But I don't know when I'm gonna be able to install them. It depends on if my neighbor will help me with them, and if he does, when he has time.

DeezNutz

Good luck with the neighbor Danny. Hopefully you can get those installed really soon.

DeezNutz

Sooo... I was thinking about who should/will have the fastest Acura CL/TL in the DFW area in the *near* future, and my projections are that Inferno is gonna take the cake when he gets his new rimzos. Anyone refute this claim?

mantis23

Once Danny gets his headers on, its gonna be a close call between Danny & John.

DeezNutz

I got a reply back from Comptech that states:
"Dan,
You should be ok with drilling out the vent plates. Since our filter sits up high like the stock unit, the filter should be fine. Thanks for your input on our ice box!
-Joe."

So, I guess I'm gonna use my day off (again) to do a little handy-work on that insert.

I also reset the ECU last night (partially out of complete boredom ), so I'll be paying attention to how it runs as it tunes itself back in from scratch. Of course, I won't be paying attention until this focking ice melts...

Nutz

DeezNutz

Given the perfomance numbers Ruf got from his light rims, I'm thinking that's as big a performance edge as any HP mod. I think Danny's getting new 17" rims as well, so he could take the prize when he gets that done as well.

Any locals have aftermarket pulleys?

danny25

i don't think anyone has pulleys around here. I'm kinda leary of pulleys cause I've heard they can cause problems with the car's electrical system.

I won't be getting any new wheels for a while, so Inferno should definately give me some good competition.

Hanzie

so everyone going to Ennis friday??? We should meet, Im gonna be in plano. Anyone??

danny25

I don't know if I'm gonna make it or not. I wanna get my headers on first, and I don't know when that's gonna happen. But the first Fri. after I have my headers on, I'm there for sure.