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Originally Posted by zeroday
Originally Posted by zeroday
and Vista is not new? 

EDIT: What I mean to say is that the kernel was totally different between releases and a compatibility layer had to be added to support OS 9 apps. If anything, my analogy is too weak. At least Windows NT 4.0 could run most 3.1 apps.
Originally Posted by zeroday
and Vista is not new? 


All I'm saying is, comparing any OS 6+ years ago (when they all sucked) to an upcoming OS is like comparing the 1999 TL to the 2007 TL

But if you want to go Apples-to-Apples... no, Vista in comparison is technically not new. OSX was built brand new from the ground up... Vista is barely more than a new coat of paint... and how hard can painting be?
Originally Posted by Hojo061782
It's not a completely new operating system, no. Going from OS 9 to OS X is about as radical as going from DOS+Win3.1 to NT 4.0.
EDIT: What I mean to say is that the kernel was totally different between releases and a compatibility layer had to be added to support OS 9 apps. If anything, my analogy is too weak. At least Windows NT 4.0 could run most 3.1 apps.
EDIT: What I mean to say is that the kernel was totally different between releases and a compatibility layer had to be added to support OS 9 apps. If anything, my analogy is too weak. At least Windows NT 4.0 could run most 3.1 apps.

Originally Posted by Hojo061782
It's not a completely new operating system, no. Going from OS 9 to OS X is about as radical as going from DOS+Win3.1 to Windows NT 4.0.
http://www.bentuser.com/article.aspx?ID=332&page=1
Microsoft has promised the “largest upgrade since Windows 95” in Windows Vista.
Originally Posted by zeroday
Seems like a pretty big leap to me. Also, saying OSX was an all new operating system makes me think you have no clue what you are talking about. It's very much based on Unix which has been around forever.
Nevertheless, comparing Darwin as a base for OSX to Windows XP as a base for Vista is really no comparison at all.
Originally Posted by soopa
I wasn't defending OS10.0 because it was new... I wasn't a Mac user then... for good reason. Although Windows ME was no better 
All I'm saying is, comparing any OS 6+ years ago (when they all sucked) to an upcoming OS is like comparing the 1999 TL to the 2007 TL
But if you want to go Apples-to-Apples... no, Vista in comparison is technically not new. OSX was built brand new from the ground up... Vista is barely more than a new coat of paint... and how hard can painting be?

All I'm saying is, comparing any OS 6+ years ago (when they all sucked) to an upcoming OS is like comparing the 1999 TL to the 2007 TL

But if you want to go Apples-to-Apples... no, Vista in comparison is technically not new. OSX was built brand new from the ground up... Vista is barely more than a new coat of paint... and how hard can painting be?

Originally Posted by soopa
Darwin was also built from the group up, based on Unix.
Nevertheless, comparing Darwin as a base for OSX to Windows XP as a base for Vista is really no comparison at all.
Nevertheless, comparing Darwin as a base for OSX to Windows XP as a base for Vista is really no comparison at all.
Originally Posted by zeroday
My point was that new products have bugs. Unless you use truly modular code whenever you make any big update to an OS it often results in things that were previously working having problems. I still disagree that OSX was 'all new' 6 yrs ago. It's based on Unix; the way they used it is new but not a reinvention of the wheel at all.
You don't even know what point you're trying to make do you?The thing is, here...
In my first post... that's not even a bug. That's as designed. Microsoft's attempt "secure" Vista is akin to your mom making you layer 3 snow suits before going out to build a snowman.
Originally Posted by zeroday
My only point here is that any major update to an OS will result in bugs..lots of them. Apple won't be immune to this until they stop hiring humans to do their programming. 

Originally Posted by soopa
You don't even know what point you're trying to make do you?
Originally Posted by soopa
The thing is, here...
In my first post... that's not even a bug. That's as designed. Microsoft's attempt "secure" Vista is akin to your mom making you layer 3 snow suits before going out to build a snowman.
In my first post... that's not even a bug. That's as designed. Microsoft's attempt "secure" Vista is akin to your mom making you layer 3 snow suits before going out to build a snowman.
Originally Posted by zeroday
and i'm sure no one at apple has ever mispelled something in their gui interface...
It's a bug in the Segoe UI that's cutting off the word. The same bug is causing random paddings and margins across all the labels and descriptions.
Originally Posted by zeroday
done. in six months if it's not fixed, i'll paypal you 20 bucks, if it's fixed i'll send you my paypal email address 


Deal.
Originally Posted by soopa
6 months, wow, that's alot of confidence in Microsoft... fix something in 6 whole months? They couldn't possibly... could they? 
Deal.

Deal.
I don't think it's a bug. Beta testers have been complaining about it for more than 6 months and it's still there. It can be disabled though.
What build are those screenshots from? Mine says "AutoComplete" it's not cut off.
Vista still sucks though
Originally Posted by O-Town_TypeS
I don't think it's a bug. Beta testers have been complaining about it for more than 6 months and it's still there. It can be disabled though.
What build are those screenshots from? Mine says "AutoComplete" it's not cut off.
Vista still sucks though
What build are those screenshots from? Mine says "AutoComplete" it's not cut off.
Vista still sucks though

I'm spending zero's $20 already.










