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So the 2010 shuffle is just like the 2nd gen shuffle?
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Did thy say what formats it supports? Xvid/mkv
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I honestly didn't mind the loss of buttons. The controls are the same as on my iPhone.
And yea, I wouldn't mind checking out the nano.
But for gym use, i think the shuffle would be best.
And yea, I wouldn't mind checking out the nano.
But for gym use, i think the shuffle would be best.
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Anyone else notice that the nano lost the video camera capability too, I thought it was pretty weird last year when they released it.
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just noticed this tid bit on the iPod touch's camera
So it's an entirely different camera than the 4.
Well obviously since it can't fit.
Video recording, HD (720p) up to 30 frames per second with audio; still photos (960 x 720) with back camera
VGA-quality photos and video up to 30 frames per second with the front camera
Tap to control exposure for video or stills
Photo and video geo tagging over Wi-Fi
VGA-quality photos and video up to 30 frames per second with the front camera
Tap to control exposure for video or stills
Photo and video geo tagging over Wi-Fi
Well obviously since it can't fit.
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At least it can take photos unlike the previous gen nano.
As nice as it was to have a video camera. But no picture camera? Didn't make sense.
As nice as it was to have a video camera. But no picture camera? Didn't make sense.
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^ you have to learn to pay special attention to what he says. He'll tell you specs of one thing and then just casually mention another and thats the one you need to read the fine print on.
I realized when he said it that it wasn't the same camera, also it doesn't have flash either.
I realized when he said it that it wasn't the same camera, also it doesn't have flash either.
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I wonder if it's 1280x720 resolution for the videos. Or that 960x720
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Here's a comparison table from Engadget
<table rules="ROWS" frame="HSIDES" cellspacing="4" cellpadding="4" border="1px solid black" style="width: 600px; height: 122px;">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top">Device:</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="center">AppleTV</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="center">Roku XR</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="center">Pop Box</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="center">LG BD550</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top"> </td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="vertical"><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="0" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/09/apple-tv-thumb-1283373942.jpg" alt=""></td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="vertical"><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="0" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/09/roku-thumb.jpg" alt=""></td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="vertical"><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="0" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/09/popbox-thumb-1283377455.jpg" alt=""></td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="center"><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="0" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/09/bluray-disc-thumb.jpg" alt=""></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top">Price:</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">$99</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">$99</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">$129</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">$130 - $150</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top">Form Factor/Size:</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">3.9 x 0.9 x 3.9</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">5 x 5 x 1.75</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">8 x 1.4 x 6 inches</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">16.9 x 1.8 x 7.9</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top">Available Content:</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">HD TV shows from ABC & Fox ($0.99), HD Movie rentals ($4.99/$3.99), Netflix, iTunes, YouTube</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">Netflix, Amazon VOD (now with $0.99 HD TV show purchases from Fox & ABC), MLB.tv, UFC, NBA GameTime, YouTube, Pandora</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">YouTube, Revision3, Blip.tv, h.264 / XviD / MPEG-4, MKV / AVI / WMV</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">Blu-ray discs, VUDU, Netflix, CinemaNow, YouTube, Pandora, Napster</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top">Apps / SDK:</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">N/A</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">Roku Channel / SDK available</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">Popapps Store / SDK available</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">NetCast widgets</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top">Connectivity:</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">WiFi N, Ethernet</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">WiFi N, Ethernet</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">Ethernet, optional WiFi adapter</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">Ethernet, Disc</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top">Video Quality:</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">720p, 5.1 audio</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">720p (1080p upgrade coming soon), 5.1 audio</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">1080p, 5.1 audio</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">1080p, 7.1 audio, DTS-HD MA / Dolby TrueHD audio</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
it still seems the only reason to use the ATV is if you're already committed to the iTunes marketplace and that's where you get your videos from. So if iTunes is the hub of your media experience for Audio and Movies/TV then it makes sense, otherwise I'd go with the Roku. But I'm just gonna stick with my new 360 cause it can be a Meda Center Extender (I'll expand more on this in my Windows 7 thread, stay tuned), supports DLNA (an industry standard and not proprietary like bonjour and iTunes streaming), does netflix, and soon will have ESPN 3, and Hulu.
<table rules="ROWS" frame="HSIDES" cellspacing="4" cellpadding="4" border="1px solid black" style="width: 600px; height: 122px;">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top">Device:</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="center">AppleTV</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="center">Roku XR</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="center">Pop Box</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="center">LG BD550</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top"> </td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="vertical"><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="0" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/09/apple-tv-thumb-1283373942.jpg" alt=""></td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="vertical"><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="0" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/09/roku-thumb.jpg" alt=""></td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="vertical"><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="0" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/09/popbox-thumb-1283377455.jpg" alt=""></td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#ffffff" align="center"><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="0" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/09/bluray-disc-thumb.jpg" alt=""></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top">Price:</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">$99</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">$99</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">$129</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">$130 - $150</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top">Form Factor/Size:</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">3.9 x 0.9 x 3.9</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">5 x 5 x 1.75</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">8 x 1.4 x 6 inches</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">16.9 x 1.8 x 7.9</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top">Available Content:</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">HD TV shows from ABC & Fox ($0.99), HD Movie rentals ($4.99/$3.99), Netflix, iTunes, YouTube</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">Netflix, Amazon VOD (now with $0.99 HD TV show purchases from Fox & ABC), MLB.tv, UFC, NBA GameTime, YouTube, Pandora</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">YouTube, Revision3, Blip.tv, h.264 / XviD / MPEG-4, MKV / AVI / WMV</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">Blu-ray discs, VUDU, Netflix, CinemaNow, YouTube, Pandora, Napster</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top">Apps / SDK:</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">N/A</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">Roku Channel / SDK available</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">Popapps Store / SDK available</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">NetCast widgets</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top">Connectivity:</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">WiFi N, Ethernet</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">WiFi N, Ethernet</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">Ethernet, optional WiFi adapter</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">Ethernet, Disc</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20%" valign="top">Video Quality:</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">720p, 5.1 audio</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">720p (1080p upgrade coming soon), 5.1 audio</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="center">1080p, 5.1 audio</td>
<td width="20%" valign="top" bgcolor="#b3e2c4" align="center">1080p, 7.1 audio, DTS-HD MA / Dolby TrueHD audio</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
it still seems the only reason to use the ATV is if you're already committed to the iTunes marketplace and that's where you get your videos from. So if iTunes is the hub of your media experience for Audio and Movies/TV then it makes sense, otherwise I'd go with the Roku. But I'm just gonna stick with my new 360 cause it can be a Meda Center Extender (I'll expand more on this in my Windows 7 thread, stay tuned), supports DLNA (an industry standard and not proprietary like bonjour and iTunes streaming), does netflix, and soon will have ESPN 3, and Hulu.
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interesting so it has the portrait orientation lock and screen brightness control built into the multi task dock.
so what is the current orientation lock going to be used for??
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It'll be easier to access, no need to double click the home button
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so i tried out that citadel app using the unreal engine.
omg pretty amazing graphics for a fricken cell phone!
omg pretty amazing graphics for a fricken cell phone!
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Here's a comparison table from Engadget
<table style="width: 600px; height: 122px;" border="1px solid black" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" frame="HSIDES" rules="ROWS"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" width="20%">Device:</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff">AppleTV</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff">Roku XR</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff">Pop Box</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff">LG BD550</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="20%"> </td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="vertical" bgcolor="#ffffff"></td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="vertical" bgcolor="#ffffff"></td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="vertical" bgcolor="#ffffff"></td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff"></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="20%">Price:</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">$99</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">$99</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">$129</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">$130 - $150</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="20%">Form Factor/Size:</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">3.9 x 0.9 x 3.9</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">5 x 5 x 1.75</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">8 x 1.4 x 6 inches</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">16.9 x 1.8 x 7.9</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="20%">Available Content:</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">HD TV shows from ABC & Fox ($0.99), HD Movie rentals ($4.99/$3.99), Netflix, iTunes, YouTube</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">Netflix, Amazon VOD (now with $0.99 HD TV show purchases from Fox & ABC), MLB.tv, UFC, NBA GameTime, YouTube, Pandora</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">YouTube, Revision3, Blip.tv, h.264 / XviD / MPEG-4, MKV / AVI / WMV</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">Blu-ray discs, VUDU, Netflix, CinemaNow, YouTube, Pandora, Napster</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="20%">Apps / SDK:</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">N/A</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">Roku Channel / SDK available</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">Popapps Store / SDK available</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">NetCast widgets</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="20%">Connectivity:</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">WiFi N, Ethernet</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">WiFi N, Ethernet</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">Ethernet, optional WiFi adapter</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Ethernet, Disc</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="20%">Video Quality:</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">720p, 5.1 audio</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">720p (1080p upgrade coming soon), 5.1 audio</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">1080p, 5.1 audio</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">1080p, 7.1 audio, DTS-HD MA / Dolby TrueHD audio</td></tr></tbody></table>
it still seems the only reason to use the ATV is if you're already committed to the iTunes marketplace and that's where you get your videos from. So if iTunes is the hub of your media experience for Audio and Movies/TV then it makes sense, otherwise I'd go with the Roku. But I'm just gonna stick with my new 360 cause it can be a Meda Center Extender (I'll expand more on this in my Windows 7 thread, stay tuned), supports DLNA (an industry standard and not proprietary like bonjour and iTunes streaming), does netflix, and soon will have ESPN 3, and Hulu.
<table style="width: 600px; height: 122px;" border="1px solid black" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" frame="HSIDES" rules="ROWS"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" width="20%">Device:</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff">AppleTV</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff">Roku XR</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff">Pop Box</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff">LG BD550</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="20%"> </td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="vertical" bgcolor="#ffffff"></td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="vertical" bgcolor="#ffffff"></td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="vertical" bgcolor="#ffffff"></td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff"></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="20%">Price:</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">$99</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">$99</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">$129</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">$130 - $150</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="20%">Form Factor/Size:</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">3.9 x 0.9 x 3.9</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">5 x 5 x 1.75</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">8 x 1.4 x 6 inches</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">16.9 x 1.8 x 7.9</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="20%">Available Content:</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">HD TV shows from ABC & Fox ($0.99), HD Movie rentals ($4.99/$3.99), Netflix, iTunes, YouTube</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">Netflix, Amazon VOD (now with $0.99 HD TV show purchases from Fox & ABC), MLB.tv, UFC, NBA GameTime, YouTube, Pandora</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">YouTube, Revision3, Blip.tv, h.264 / XviD / MPEG-4, MKV / AVI / WMV</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">Blu-ray discs, VUDU, Netflix, CinemaNow, YouTube, Pandora, Napster</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="20%">Apps / SDK:</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">N/A</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">Roku Channel / SDK available</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">Popapps Store / SDK available</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">NetCast widgets</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="20%">Connectivity:</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">WiFi N, Ethernet</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">WiFi N, Ethernet</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">Ethernet, optional WiFi adapter</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Ethernet, Disc</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" width="20%">Video Quality:</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">720p, 5.1 audio</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">720p (1080p upgrade coming soon), 5.1 audio</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee">1080p, 5.1 audio</td><td valign="top" width="20%" align="center" bgcolor="#b3e2c4">1080p, 7.1 audio, DTS-HD MA / Dolby TrueHD audio</td></tr></tbody></table>
it still seems the only reason to use the ATV is if you're already committed to the iTunes marketplace and that's where you get your videos from. So if iTunes is the hub of your media experience for Audio and Movies/TV then it makes sense, otherwise I'd go with the Roku. But I'm just gonna stick with my new 360 cause it can be a Meda Center Extender (I'll expand more on this in my Windows 7 thread, stay tuned), supports DLNA (an industry standard and not proprietary like bonjour and iTunes streaming), does netflix, and soon will have ESPN 3, and Hulu.
I already convert my movies to .m4v for use with 7MC/MCE, so the format streaming doesn't bother me. Using the 360 is a decent solution, but if you're using any add-ons or third party software to enhance the 7MC experience (which, IMO, it absoutely requires) then you'll be dog-ass slow when it comes time for it to display all of your titles. Actual playback isn't an issue, but navigating to your movie will be. That said, I'm not sure how the newer version handles this. ESPN3 would have been nice, especially if I indeed cancel my Gold sub. I don't watch enough serial TV shows to really have an opinion on Hulu.
For me, it's a sheer tossup between Roku and Apple. Not having gigE is a surprise, though. But then again, neither does the Roku. Hopefully I'll be able to play with it in a store before I decide. The only potential thing that may cause me pause is how well it plays with WHS.
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Well, I just grabbed another apple tv. For $99, I had a hard time saying no. I have the original ATV and enjoy it quite a bit. I'll likely move the old one upstairs into our bedroom, put the new one with the entertainment setup where we do most of our TV watching.
This is the perfect device for me (as Stunna mentioned) because iTunes does all my media handling. Lame they didn't give a 1000mbit NIC, though.
This is the perfect device for me (as Stunna mentioned) because iTunes does all my media handling. Lame they didn't give a 1000mbit NIC, though.
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I don't think you will miss the 1gig nic. It doesn't have a hard drive so it's only good for streaming. 100 is plenty good for that.
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* Built-in 6-watt universal power supply
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^I've heard stories of people actually cooking eggs on one!
Thankfully my mini server runs pretty cool even when playing flash videos....
Thankfully my mini server runs pretty cool even when playing flash videos....
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I may just give Apple TV a shot. 720p doesn't really bother me right now, because I have a 720p Plasma as my main set. If I had 1080p, I'd already have a HTPC hooked up to it, so that's not a big deal. I can see where it would be for some.
I already convert my movies to .m4v for use with 7MC/MCE, so the format streaming doesn't bother me. Using the 360 is a decent solution, but if you're using any add-ons or third party software to enhance the 7MC experience (which, IMO, it absoutely requires) then you'll be dog-ass slow when it comes time for it to display all of your titles. Actual playback isn't an issue, but navigating to your movie will be. That said, I'm not sure how the newer version handles this. ESPN3 would have been nice, especially if I indeed cancel my Gold sub. I don't watch enough serial TV shows to really have an opinion on Hulu.
For me, it's a sheer tossup between Roku and Apple. Not having gigE is a surprise, though. But then again, neither does the Roku. Hopefully I'll be able to play with it in a store before I decide. The only potential thing that may cause me pause is how well it plays with WHS.
I already convert my movies to .m4v for use with 7MC/MCE, so the format streaming doesn't bother me. Using the 360 is a decent solution, but if you're using any add-ons or third party software to enhance the 7MC experience (which, IMO, it absoutely requires) then you'll be dog-ass slow when it comes time for it to display all of your titles. Actual playback isn't an issue, but navigating to your movie will be. That said, I'm not sure how the newer version handles this. ESPN3 would have been nice, especially if I indeed cancel my Gold sub. I don't watch enough serial TV shows to really have an opinion on Hulu.
For me, it's a sheer tossup between Roku and Apple. Not having gigE is a surprise, though. But then again, neither does the Roku. Hopefully I'll be able to play with it in a store before I decide. The only potential thing that may cause me pause is how well it plays with WHS.
The thing to be aware of with the Apple TV (correct me if I'm wrong) is that in order to stream from a PC you need iTunes installed and it needs to be open and running in the background. While that might not bother you, it'd bother me. I'm not a fan of iTunes on the PC and I only have quicktime as a necessity...
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But still no Zune pass, so you're stuck listening to only pre-selected 30 sec samples of what you're friends are listening to, no way to preview the whole song/album or rent it either like you can with the zune pass.
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I don't think WMC needs any add-ons so that doesn't bother me. the UI does seem a little sluggish, I'm gonna run a wire to my 360 in the future so I'll see if that helps. my movies are stored on my WHS (supports DLNA too) so I connect directly to that for my movies and not through MCE.
The thing to be aware of with the Apple TV (correct me if I'm wrong) is that in order to stream from a PC you need iTunes installed and it needs to be open and running in the background. While that might not bother you, it'd bother me. I'm not a fan of iTunes on the PC and I only have quicktime as a necessity...
The thing to be aware of with the Apple TV (correct me if I'm wrong) is that in order to stream from a PC you need iTunes installed and it needs to be open and running in the background. While that might not bother you, it'd bother me. I'm not a fan of iTunes on the PC and I only have quicktime as a necessity...
Unless I'm very much mistaken, you still need a computer with WMC/7MC on and connected for the MCE to work. You can get your files from anywhere, but Media Center needs to be on an active computer at least somewhere on your network. Unless you've installed it on your WHS?
As for Apple TV, I can't say. I think the best solution would be to have it on the server (not iTunes Server Service), but I hear it's troublesome. Having iTunes, running or otherwise, hasn't really bothered me.
I just love the added versatility and eye candy Media Browser brings.
#351
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yes but I don't think WMC needs to be open and running in the background in order for MCE to work...
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All I know is my ps3 stutters sometimes on 1080p content since it's on a 100 network (1 computer on the network doesn't have gigabit network :thumbsdow
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I may just give Apple TV a shot. 720p doesn't really bother me right now, because I have a 720p Plasma as my main set. If I had 1080p, I'd already have a HTPC hooked up to it, so that's not a big deal. I can see where it would be for some.
I already convert my movies to .m4v for use with 7MC/MCE, so the format streaming doesn't bother me. Using the 360 is a decent solution, but if you're using any add-ons or third party software to enhance the 7MC experience (which, IMO, it absoutely requires) then you'll be dog-ass slow when it comes time for it to display all of your titles. Actual playback isn't an issue, but navigating to your movie will be. That said, I'm not sure how the newer version handles this. ESPN3 would have been nice, especially if I indeed cancel my Gold sub. I don't watch enough serial TV shows to really have an opinion on Hulu.
For me, it's a sheer tossup between Roku and Apple. Not having gigE is a surprise, though. But then again, neither does the Roku. Hopefully I'll be able to play with it in a store before I decide. The only potential thing that may cause me pause is how well it plays with WHS.
I already convert my movies to .m4v for use with 7MC/MCE, so the format streaming doesn't bother me. Using the 360 is a decent solution, but if you're using any add-ons or third party software to enhance the 7MC experience (which, IMO, it absoutely requires) then you'll be dog-ass slow when it comes time for it to display all of your titles. Actual playback isn't an issue, but navigating to your movie will be. That said, I'm not sure how the newer version handles this. ESPN3 would have been nice, especially if I indeed cancel my Gold sub. I don't watch enough serial TV shows to really have an opinion on Hulu.
For me, it's a sheer tossup between Roku and Apple. Not having gigE is a surprise, though. But then again, neither does the Roku. Hopefully I'll be able to play with it in a store before I decide. The only potential thing that may cause me pause is how well it plays with WHS.
I'm an old ATV adopter....have had the 160GB for a fwe years...the ease of use is just fool proof....I wish the new one had a hard drive because i liked being able to store stuff on it, but will definately be getting one of these new ones for the bedroom shortly.
$99 and the ease of use is unbeatable
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So no word on the mystical white iPhone 4?
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Nope, they'd rather not talk about it til it's ready to go. I think they said fall this year but that could probably come and go too
#359
The sizzle in the Steak
Apple's Ping is a spam magnet
The iTunes account holder who calls himself Claude Damm had a busy morning Friday. In the space of an hour, he visited more than four dozen celebrity profiles on Ping -- the newest feature on Apple's (AAPL) 10-year-old iTunes store -- and posted 51 links to a dodgy U.K. website offering "iPhone4free."
And he's not alone, according to Sophos Security's Chester Wisniewski, who reports on his blog that "less than 24 hours after launch, Ping [was] drowning in scams and spams."
"Most of the security industry," he writes, "has been pointing out the migration of spam from an email-only venture to blog/forum comments, Facebook, Twitter and other Web 2.0 platforms. But apparently Apple didn't consider this when designing Ping, as the service implements no spam or URL filtering... Another problem that is likely to contribute to spam is that it is quite easy to create bogus accounts for the Ping service because no credit card or other positive identification is required to participate."
Apple anticipated the problem to some extent. You can click on a "Report" button to alert iTunes staffers of an Offensive Comment, Inappropriate Photo or Video or Spam. But MacRumors reports can take up to four hours for an offender's account to be suspended.
The whole Ping service feels like a work in progress. Navigation is difficult, editing one's profile even harder, and as All Things D's Peter Kafka points out, it isn't very easy on Ping to share your musical tastes -- which is ostensibly its purpose.
And he's not alone, according to Sophos Security's Chester Wisniewski, who reports on his blog that "less than 24 hours after launch, Ping [was] drowning in scams and spams."
"Most of the security industry," he writes, "has been pointing out the migration of spam from an email-only venture to blog/forum comments, Facebook, Twitter and other Web 2.0 platforms. But apparently Apple didn't consider this when designing Ping, as the service implements no spam or URL filtering... Another problem that is likely to contribute to spam is that it is quite easy to create bogus accounts for the Ping service because no credit card or other positive identification is required to participate."
Apple anticipated the problem to some extent. You can click on a "Report" button to alert iTunes staffers of an Offensive Comment, Inappropriate Photo or Video or Spam. But MacRumors reports can take up to four hours for an offender's account to be suspended.
The whole Ping service feels like a work in progress. Navigation is difficult, editing one's profile even harder, and as All Things D's Peter Kafka points out, it isn't very easy on Ping to share your musical tastes -- which is ostensibly its purpose.
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